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Right on RtB. Great to hear from you. Keep it up!
Robert Bruce is not Robert Bruce Baird (RtB). They are two different people.
I did not know that. Are they stereotypical?
Robert Bruce Baird used to post here quite frequently. Robert Bruce never has.
Rhymer knows who RTB is. I believe the question is: just as they share the same name do they also share the same peculiar notions and/or attitudes?
There seem to be some similarities. On the audio stream from that page, Robert Bruce used the phrase "as above, so below," which I believe is a phrase that RTB also has used.
Why would someone post that on this site, of all sites to post? Interesting.
I've never heard RTB's voice before. Has anybody else? Are they one and the same?
I do recall RTB mentioning another writer by the name of Robert BAird.
I've never heard RTB's voice before. Has anybody else? Are they one and the same?
I do recall RTB mentioning another writer by the name of Robert BAird.
I heard RTB's voice from a different Web audiocast. RTB is Robert Baird. He has mentioned Robert Bruce as someone that he should not be confused with.
Robert Bruce sounds rather British, but RTB sounds Canadian eh
More Scottish actually Dan!
I smell a Haggis.
I smell a Haggis.
after sampling it again, I'm leaning more toward aussie
Sorry Dan,
I thought you were referring to the name, not the voice!
I have not listened to the 'speech'!
I thought you were referring to the name, not the voice!
I have not listened to the 'speech'!
He is Aussie and I was on his site Astral Pulse.com but left it when a moderator acted as a Nazi and deleted a post I made in response to an Xian fundy.
You will find he confirms the weirder side of what I write about but because he knows these things does not mean he does not know other things. However, I write about all things whereas he sticks to one area mostly. He now lives in New Jersey, USA.
You will find he confirms the weirder side of what I write about but because he knows these things does not mean he does not know other things. However, I write about all things whereas he sticks to one area mostly. He now lives in New Jersey, USA.
hey rtb, wazz up?
Trip
Trip
So what's the real RTB been up to?
It's pretty boring around here without your crazy input.
If you need fantasies to excite you, why don't you surf to RTB's many 'homes' in fantasyland on the web?
Including a real course in true history that asks the real questions - being moderated at SpiritualSoul.org starting Feb 15.
Lindsay and Rick get promoted in this article
http://www.enchanted-spirits.com/theespres...ertbaird05.html
http://www.enchanted-spirits.com/theespres...ertbaird05.html
Thanks, Robert.
RTB - I will not comment, as thine true identity is well known to me... hope you are ok. This identity thing could get quite amusing for you I bet, guess you have quite a few chuckles!
For the others - this voice is not Robert The Bruce - I agree this voice sounds Aussie - has the i sound as an e sound, which aussies do a lot. I would not be surprised if there had been some borrowing of materials from one to add to identity creation in another as part of the game play. The phrase Rick, is used by many, refers to accord between spiritual and worldly life. It is amazing when listening to these people that they become so knowledgeable about things no one can see or research or examine, the theories, the dimensions, the books, the interviews, amazing really, guess it would amount to nothing if there was no captive audience. Why are we such a captive audience - could you comment on this one RTB?
Dear Blue
My identity is well known to you? HMMM. It amazes me that people who have the need to hide behind nicknames are often the ones who challenge those who actually write and research things in the REAL world. The Toilet Philosophers who think the world is only what their eyes can see are not up with Quantum Physics or anything real at all. They back the likes of those who recommend the answer to pollution is dilution so they simply flush it out into the ether and think it is no longer real. Yet they are the ones who say others cannot see. HMMM!
Robert Bruce is very focused and helpful for those who often have to face the prejudices of a society comprised of such bigots who often also lash out and attack that which they deny (Clinical term) actually exists.
I have experienced many things he writes about but I have not read any of his books so I cannot say how good he is other than to say there are many scientists who I quote who can be said to prove what he talks about. That (I think is a weakness of him and many spiritualists - they do not back it up with facts from science. Kind of like yourself. Those who proclaim science agrees with them and provide no factual basis for that or have not read the best scientists (not Shermer or Randi) will often be found on the web. They are much like the Churchians and other lynch mob superficial sheeple in cults like the Ofal Majority or the KKK. Your reasoning as you state that either of us benefits from any confusion of our names is very much like the KKK types who used the Bible to justify their small-minded insecure hatreds. I am certain I have lost sales of my books due to this confusion because my approach is totally the opposite of his.
My identity is well known to you? HMMM. It amazes me that people who have the need to hide behind nicknames are often the ones who challenge those who actually write and research things in the REAL world. The Toilet Philosophers who think the world is only what their eyes can see are not up with Quantum Physics or anything real at all. They back the likes of those who recommend the answer to pollution is dilution so they simply flush it out into the ether and think it is no longer real. Yet they are the ones who say others cannot see. HMMM!
Robert Bruce is very focused and helpful for those who often have to face the prejudices of a society comprised of such bigots who often also lash out and attack that which they deny (Clinical term) actually exists.
I have experienced many things he writes about but I have not read any of his books so I cannot say how good he is other than to say there are many scientists who I quote who can be said to prove what he talks about. That (I think is a weakness of him and many spiritualists - they do not back it up with facts from science. Kind of like yourself. Those who proclaim science agrees with them and provide no factual basis for that or have not read the best scientists (not Shermer or Randi) will often be found on the web. They are much like the Churchians and other lynch mob superficial sheeple in cults like the Ofal Majority or the KKK. Your reasoning as you state that either of us benefits from any confusion of our names is very much like the KKK types who used the Bible to justify their small-minded insecure hatreds. I am certain I have lost sales of my books due to this confusion because my approach is totally the opposite of his.
“What possible good can it do to make people think I am gifted with something they can never aspire to be? It is far better to teach them how to join their souls with what the Hindu sages like Buddha or other Indian philosophers call ‘All that IS’, or our YHWH and Yahweh concept. This is egalitarian and truthful and I don’t like to think my hard work and study is going to end up being simply sloughed off as mere ‘blood’. Yes, I know the blood contains knowledge too; but so what?”
“What is real and true is one thing but what actually works and gets people to behave more in line with concepts or proper control is another. There are reasons to think people who will not do the spiritual work are better off when they have faith in some very made up constructs like a Messiah. At the same time it is also true that this faith can be used against people and especially against those who do not have the same faith.” Mary noted.
“The opportunity to learn from all the top adepts in the world is now at the feet of Jesus. This alone will ensure his talents will cause more people to think of him as The Chriost. Those adepts and their followers will share what they witness with others and the legends will grow and become hard to stop even if Jesus tells people he is not the Messiah. After all a good Messiah would say that in order to make people perform good acts and do the work to become like the gods we are all part of.” J. A. spoke with authority and wisdom.
“Probably that is the case unfortunately. Maybe I should keep away from people and just do the work on my own.” Yeshua sullenly said. “As a Messiah it will be difficult to live up to certain people’s wild expectations and others will inevitably take anything they can against that person. I will never claim to be The Chriost but I can see others are already doing it. Judas is a total extremist and he thinks God will smite any who get in my way.”
“I have even heard him threaten others with this.” Magdalene said.
“In America we have seen that certain tribes or clans end up getting into heated battles over whether or not another tribe’s shaman has brought something bad upon their people. They have created a Mediwiwin Society of adepts who get together and sort out any real transgressions by the spiritual leaders.” J. A. spoke with a light in his eye that intrigued Jesus. “As traders and business people over the millennia our forefathers have tried to keep order through many different oversight and supranational alliances like this. You can see it in Greece and their history. But as Plato said, when we gave them a writing alphabet the actual discipline of people diminished. People think they do not have to really remember or learn what they can just go to a book to find an answer for.”
“What is real and true is one thing but what actually works and gets people to behave more in line with concepts or proper control is another. There are reasons to think people who will not do the spiritual work are better off when they have faith in some very made up constructs like a Messiah. At the same time it is also true that this faith can be used against people and especially against those who do not have the same faith.” Mary noted.
“The opportunity to learn from all the top adepts in the world is now at the feet of Jesus. This alone will ensure his talents will cause more people to think of him as The Chriost. Those adepts and their followers will share what they witness with others and the legends will grow and become hard to stop even if Jesus tells people he is not the Messiah. After all a good Messiah would say that in order to make people perform good acts and do the work to become like the gods we are all part of.” J. A. spoke with authority and wisdom.
“Probably that is the case unfortunately. Maybe I should keep away from people and just do the work on my own.” Yeshua sullenly said. “As a Messiah it will be difficult to live up to certain people’s wild expectations and others will inevitably take anything they can against that person. I will never claim to be The Chriost but I can see others are already doing it. Judas is a total extremist and he thinks God will smite any who get in my way.”
“I have even heard him threaten others with this.” Magdalene said.
“In America we have seen that certain tribes or clans end up getting into heated battles over whether or not another tribe’s shaman has brought something bad upon their people. They have created a Mediwiwin Society of adepts who get together and sort out any real transgressions by the spiritual leaders.” J. A. spoke with a light in his eye that intrigued Jesus. “As traders and business people over the millennia our forefathers have tried to keep order through many different oversight and supranational alliances like this. You can see it in Greece and their history. But as Plato said, when we gave them a writing alphabet the actual discipline of people diminished. People think they do not have to really remember or learn what they can just go to a book to find an answer for.”
There is an unpublished autobiography of Tesla available for free on the web. It details how Tesla’s father became a cleric after having been a military person. This father then tried to make Tesla into a cleric. I see the Bairdic and minstrel training was part of what young Tesla was required to do by his father. The brain is now proven to have about 350,000 connections and many of them atrophy if not properly used or activated early in life.
"Although I must trace to my mother's influence whatever inventiveness I possess, the training he gave me must have been helpful. It comprised of all sorts of exercises, as guessing one another's thoughts, discovering the defects of some form of expression, repeating long sentences or performing mental calculations. These daily lessons were intended to strengthen memory and reason and especially to develop the critical sense, and undoubtedly were very beneficial." (1) I will refer to this autobiography frequently throughout this book as I try to show many things about Tesla and myself or his father that are related with my own experiences in life.
Confirmation of my research is all over the work of Tesla. This Guyot in the following quote is a Hibernian like Bernard of Clairvaux. Part of the Cathar treasures has to do with their trade to the Americas and I have tried to provide many proofs of that in other books. The Huguenots brought to America by the prime Merovingian Astor in a later time are also connected to the remains of the Cathars after the bulk of them were wiped out in a Roman Crusade of mania and power.
http://www.mcnabb.com/music/tesla/bio.pdf
"Although I must trace to my mother's influence whatever inventiveness I possess, the training he gave me must have been helpful. It comprised of all sorts of exercises, as guessing one another's thoughts, discovering the defects of some form of expression, repeating long sentences or performing mental calculations. These daily lessons were intended to strengthen memory and reason and especially to develop the critical sense, and undoubtedly were very beneficial." (1) I will refer to this autobiography frequently throughout this book as I try to show many things about Tesla and myself or his father that are related with my own experiences in life.
Confirmation of my research is all over the work of Tesla. This Guyot in the following quote is a Hibernian like Bernard of Clairvaux. Part of the Cathar treasures has to do with their trade to the Americas and I have tried to provide many proofs of that in other books. The Huguenots brought to America by the prime Merovingian Astor in a later time are also connected to the remains of the Cathars after the bulk of them were wiped out in a Roman Crusade of mania and power.
http://www.mcnabb.com/music/tesla/bio.pdf
Are you missing us here at brainmeta.com Robert?
Just you.
Try scrolling down on this one to find my book. Seems someone is getting concerened.
http://irc-archaeology.erudition.net/cgi-bin/bookstore.cgi
Try scrolling down on this one to find my book. Seems someone is getting concerened.
http://irc-archaeology.erudition.net/cgi-bin/bookstore.cgi
it looks like your book is being put up as a joke, as evidenced by the disclaimer
Pseudo-Archaeology and Pseudo-Science (Buyer Beware: All of the following books have been placed in this pseudo- section because they offering alternative views of science or archaeology which irreconcilably conflict with standard scientific thought. Do not be surprised by bad science, bad sources, poor reasoning or all of the above.)
here's the review from Rambles.net that is referenced with your book on Amazon.com
http://rambles.net/baird_divdruids03.html
Pseudo-Archaeology and Pseudo-Science (Buyer Beware: All of the following books have been placed in this pseudo- section because they offering alternative views of science or archaeology which irreconcilably conflict with standard scientific thought. Do not be surprised by bad science, bad sources, poor reasoning or all of the above.)
here's the review from Rambles.net that is referenced with your book on Amazon.com
http://rambles.net/baird_divdruids03.html
Yeah, there don't seem to be many active members here anymore.
Were you refering to Diverse Druids?
I seen ravenwynter gave it a positive review.
I wish you would hurry up and get published in hardcopies so I can buy some books and add them to my collection.
Is that ever gonna happen?
Were you refering to Diverse Druids?
I seen ravenwynter gave it a positive review.
I wish you would hurry up and get published in hardcopies so I can buy some books and add them to my collection.
Is that ever gonna happen?
Dear Dan
The Rambles reviewer is Laurie Thayer and she works at the Buffalo region Social Security complex that turned down my US entitlement after five years of hassling with the Canadian government to get it. She says I say that the Kelts (De Danaans or Homer's DNN) did not found Greece and ROme and she does not know how to marinate and soften bones like the archys. She lied in the first instance and is stupid in the second and then she goes on to suggest I might support alien theories when in fact that is the Bible Narrative or normative 'his'-story that I debunk.
The Undernet site is a biased religious freako and also supports the Euro-Centric racist Christian concepts - I love being listed alongside Collins and Cremo even though Cremo is affected or sold out to Hinduism
Dear Don
My book in print - Diverse Druids - did you get it at The Omega Center?
Amazon has 21 other books of mine on CD at a special price. I have become a partner in a site of ancient artifacts which I hope to promote in order to protect from government destruction in a TV show I am invited to in England and that is the next book I want to see in print - but I have no money to send copies of manuscripts anywhere so it may take time or have to wait until I am on that six part TV series.
The Rambles reviewer is Laurie Thayer and she works at the Buffalo region Social Security complex that turned down my US entitlement after five years of hassling with the Canadian government to get it. She says I say that the Kelts (De Danaans or Homer's DNN) did not found Greece and ROme and she does not know how to marinate and soften bones like the archys. She lied in the first instance and is stupid in the second and then she goes on to suggest I might support alien theories when in fact that is the Bible Narrative or normative 'his'-story that I debunk.
The Undernet site is a biased religious freako and also supports the Euro-Centric racist Christian concepts - I love being listed alongside Collins and Cremo even though Cremo is affected or sold out to Hinduism
Dear Don
My book in print - Diverse Druids - did you get it at The Omega Center?
Amazon has 21 other books of mine on CD at a special price. I have become a partner in a site of ancient artifacts which I hope to promote in order to protect from government destruction in a TV show I am invited to in England and that is the next book I want to see in print - but I have no money to send copies of manuscripts anywhere so it may take time or have to wait until I am on that six part TV series.
I like all the quotes that you use in the beginning of 'Debunking the Debunker'.
| QUOTE (Dan @ Jan 25, 04:54 PM) |
| Robert Bruce sounds rather British, but RTB sounds Canadian eh |
Again, interesting to know does his family ever had connection to the Sir Robert Bruce Cotton?
I still fear that his zealous motivation springs from the diary which has passed to his hands, that may explain his fantastic hatred to my dear Sir Francis Bacon. Or there were some leaks from unidentified source.
"Son of Thomas Cotton of Huntingdonshire (original family name was probably de Cotun). Family had profited well by the dissolution of the monasteries and by marriage. They were neighbors and `kinsmen' of the Huntingdonshire Montagus (that is, the Duke of Manchester), and distant relatives of Robert the Bruce of Scotland (original family name was probably de Bruis, de Broix, de Brois, etc).
http://www.montaguemillennium.com/familyre...1631_cotton.htm "
I did not forget about the Chronovisor story Robert. Have you read the Proteus Operation by Carl P. Hogan? Where is the diary Robert!
BTW I bought the refrigerator and my health condition has stabilized. The Empire again is on march. Where is the diary Robert!
The keeper must meet his obligations, you know, such is the rule (contract).
I fear that it is useless time spending. Eh, Robert, Robert.
| QUOTE (Dan @ Mar 10, 02:52 PM) |
| it looks like your book is being put up as a joke, as evidenced by the disclaimer Pseudo-Archaeology and Pseudo-Science (Buyer Beware: All of the following books have been placed in this pseudo- section because they offering alternative views of science or archaeology which irreconcilably conflict with standard scientific thought. Do not be surprised by bad science, bad sources, poor reasoning or all of the above.) here's the review from Rambles.net that is referenced with your book on Amazon.com http://rambles.net/baird_divdruids03.html |
Great link Dan!
You see Robert, I told you the book needs improvement. By the way, have you noted a Druid pained on the ELSEVIER publishing house “new” logo near tree embraced with nice growing something, have you?
BTW, now I plan to buy two washing machines for cloths and dishes. So you still have chance to use my suggestion. Do you have freedom of will man?
With kind regards,
Enki
PS: Does Falcon still digging his temple? Any progress? How the “next” book is going on?
Well, I read it, so and what? I mean we all know that US is a semi-democratic country, it was not a great news on our planet but it may turn to be a great news for American people. So and what? One Empire here one Empire there. All will pass Robert. As always. In case of US it must be a democratic country as only such country as US can provide accelerated scientific expansion of the mankind. I do love America and Americans very much. We are on the verge of transformation to hydrogen power. Nobody needs serious fluctuations. Do not waist your time man. Believe me. Let’s talk about the cabbages and kinds.
Why don't you want to write a nice book all can read? Simple, nice and understandable for people of this very planet. Besides somebody can make a Hollywood movie on that. Think about that.
I think you have to listen the voice of Enki. I am writing you from Far Away place, and if I still write it means something man, is not it? Can you imagine in the old times it was impossible to do that. The history of mankind has many secrets, some of them better not to be known to public, do you understand me Robert? Ask yourself a question ‘What people will benefit if in one day they will get known about all interesting things?’ You see. What was done was done. Quite many tings were wrong. You behave like a child who stretched his hand and cries ‘Look there is a dragon flying in the sky, look there are many dragons flying up there!!!’ then he wonders why nobody pays attention. I think you have to re-read the passages of dispute between Erasmus and Luther about the FREEDOM OF WILL. Luther was a nice guy but as obstinate as you are. Lutciy up to now feels pain in his leg after Luther has thrown an inkpot at him.
So I am coming back to my two washing machines.
Why don't you want to write a nice book all can read? Simple, nice and understandable for people of this very planet. Besides somebody can make a Hollywood movie on that. Think about that.
I think you have to listen the voice of Enki. I am writing you from Far Away place, and if I still write it means something man, is not it? Can you imagine in the old times it was impossible to do that. The history of mankind has many secrets, some of them better not to be known to public, do you understand me Robert? Ask yourself a question ‘What people will benefit if in one day they will get known about all interesting things?’ You see. What was done was done. Quite many tings were wrong. You behave like a child who stretched his hand and cries ‘Look there is a dragon flying in the sky, look there are many dragons flying up there!!!’ then he wonders why nobody pays attention. I think you have to re-read the passages of dispute between Erasmus and Luther about the FREEDOM OF WILL. Luther was a nice guy but as obstinate as you are. Lutciy up to now feels pain in his leg after Luther has thrown an inkpot at him.
So I am coming back to my two washing machines.
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