Nietzsche, I can get lost in Nietzsche! Options

[Allisonishisgalal]

People who comprehend a thing to its very depths rarely stay faithful to it forever. For they have brought its depths into the light of day: and in the depths there is always much that is unpleasant to see.

from Nietzsche's Human, all too Human, s.489, R.J. Hollingdale transl

(One of my favorite quotes.)

http://www.pitt.edu/~wbcurry/nietzsche/nphil.html
-interesting reading

What's do YOU think?

[Rick]

I agree. Nietzsche had penetrating vision. It's too bad the Nazis misrepresented him and twisted his philosophy to suit their purposes.

"Even today many educated people think that the victory of Christianity over Greek philosophy is a proof of the superior truth of the former--although in this case it was only the coarser and more violent that conquered the more spiritual and delicate. So far as superior truth is concerned, it is enough to observe that the awakening sciences have allied themselves point by point with the philosophy of Epicurus, but point by point rejected Christianity."

from Nietzsche's Human, all too Human, s.68, R.J. Hollingdale transl., from the above link.

[Hey Hey]

The Nazis were 100% bad? I just wonder, with all of the bias there is in interpretation of anything, especially history, whether there were any positive outcomes from Nazism that are hidden in the depths of fear of being associated with it. But please note, that I am in no way suggesting that the holocaust was/is excusable, before anyone gets on their high horse.

[Rick]

They say that at least Musolini made the trains run on time. However, I think that fascism, which is the close cooperation between government and business, is not the only way to have an efficient society. Fascism is inherently unjust. When government collaborates with business, the force of law is used to break strikes and enforce the will of the elite over the comman man. Fascism is a slave master's tool.

[Hey Hey]

I agree, but the trouble is almost everything else that has been tried has as many problems and pitfalls.

[Rick]

I would rather not endorse fascism, regardless of the problems of making a democracy work. Better to struggle with a liberal system than to submit to totalitarianism.

[Hey Hey]

i'm with you on that. but do keep an eye on all sides, as politics does move on. things change.

[Rick]

The few attempting to enslave the many never seems to change. The struggle continues.

[Hey Hey]

Yes, I've come to see this quite clearly since I was pushed out of the middleclass mainstream due to illness. I now have a little more time to observe (not much more though as everything takes twice as long to do!) but all I see is ideas stolen and opinion ignored. And what with that mind-reading machine, well the future could be grim. I reckon that the research group working on it won't have any difficulty obtaining funding. Dependent upon where the funding comes from, I imagine that we won't hear too much more about it as it slides into TOP SECRET files.

ps, I heard on radio today that the British car company, Rover, has attracted the attention of potential Russian and Iranian buyers. It's a strange world of restricted flow of people but increasingly unrestricted flow of information, with the same parties involved.

[Rick]

I think mind reading machines will be found to be impractical and the funding will dry up. There are limits to technological intrusiveness.

[Hey Hey]

Maybe not Rick. There are military applications and money is never too short there!

[Rick]

Time will tell.