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| Robert the Bruce |
 Aug 10, 2004, 12:26 PM
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Consciousness is not necessarily awareness although there are similarities in the concepts. It is possible and indeed probable that consciousness has a wide range of variation including rocks and muons and sentient beings that have constituent conscious parts like the soul that few are aware of.
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Aug 11, 2004, 02:16 PM
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Function:adjective Etymology:Middle English iwar, from Old English gew*r, from ge- (associative prefix) + w*r wary — more at CO-, WARY Date:before 12th century 1 archaic : WATCHFUL, WARY 2 : having or showing realization, perception, or knowledge –aware£ness noun synonyms AWARE, COGNIZANT, CONSCIOUS, SENSIBLE, ALIVE, AWAKE mean having knowledge of something. AWARE implies vigilance in observing or alertness in drawing inferences from what one experiences *aware of changes in climate*. COGNIZANT implies having special or certain knowledge as from firsthand sources *not fully cognizant of the facts*. CONSCIOUS implies that one is focusing one's attention on something or is even preoccupied by it *conscious that my heart was pounding*. SENSIBLE implies direct or intuitive perceiving especially of intangibles or of emotional states or qualities *sensible of a teacher's influence*. ALIVE adds to SENSIBLE the implication of acute sensitivity to something *alive to the thrill of danger*. AWAKE implies that one has become alive to something and is on the alert *a country always awake to the threat of invasion*. consciousness Function:noun Date:1629 1 a : the quality or state of being aware especially of something within oneself b : the state or fact of being conscious of an external object, state, or fact c : AWARENESS; especially : concern for some social or political cause 2 : the state of being characterized by sensation, emotion, volition, and thought : MIND 3 : the totality of conscious states of an individual 4 : the normal state of conscious life *regained consciousness* 5 : the upper level of mental life of which the person is aware as contrasted with unconscious processes |
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Aug 11, 2004, 02:20 PM
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The definitive personal approach.
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Aug 12, 2004, 07:22 AM
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Rhymer, a quote from Joesus from another thread "memory of the god"
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Aug 12, 2004, 08:27 AM
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WordNet Dictionary Noun 1. awareness - having knowledge of; "he had no awareness of his mistakes"; "his sudden consciousness of the problem he faced"; "their intelligence and general knowingness was impressive" Synonyms: cognisance, cognizance, knowingness, consciousness 2. awareness - state of elementary or undifferentiated consciousness; "the crash intruded on his awareness" Synonyms: sentience End of quote. A synonym is a word which can be used to replace another word. Namaste |
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Aug 14, 2004, 12:21 PM
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I believe that we are all born with an inner desire to return to that complete "wholeness" state from we which originated from. I am 29 years old and I have only been experiencing my spiritual awakening over the past couple of years. I have searched to fill the hole in my soul my entire life. I tried filling it with drugs, other people, psychiatry, religion etc...
none of these proved to work. Some of them made the whole bigger and got me way off track. Today I have a personal relationship with my God, not the God of a particular religion that I feared as a child but, the God that I see and feel in myself , other people and all that is good in this world. I have a guide in my journey of life now. I have ceased fighting. I am on a journey of spiritual progress not spiritual perfection. I am a spiritual being living in an unspiritual world. I believe that enlightenment is the ability to live as a spiritual being harmoniously in an unspiritual world. This life of ours is only a dot on the page of our existence. It is a "practice test" to prepare our souls for the eternity. It is good. |
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| Robert the Bruce |
Aug 14, 2004, 01:48 PM
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Sounds healthy!
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Aug 14, 2004, 05:28 PM
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Thanks! I'm working on it.
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Aug 14, 2004, 09:20 PM
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We should go out, have a dink, anf talkf aboutf it.
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Aug 14, 2004, 09:49 PM
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Did I suggest clandestine? I don't think so. The Manifest Destiny policy and the open warfare on truth or what Professor Graham Good calls Literary Theory and the management of society (McLuhan too) is openly available for any who really study. I also talked to various government departments and one lower level personsaid 'it is too political'. He was referring to the smallest part of the cover up - at Peterborough where the government allowed the Norse Ships to be ground off the rocks.
Please do not attribute more to me than you are able to demonstrate. In time you will learn and what you learn will be you or yours. I do not mind being a guide but I am not interested in being a guru or in having things I do not believe or do not do attributed to me. There is more than enough mystery in my life already - thanks. |
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Aug 14, 2004, 10:36 PM
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"10/4, rubber ducky." Quack! Quack!
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Aug 18, 2004, 02:34 PM
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If enlightenment is some end state then I don't want it. If I ever get to the state where there can be no improvement then I will be ready to die.
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Aug 18, 2004, 11:25 PM
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I guess no one would seek an end-state. Enlightenment has to be an endless-state. |
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Aug 19, 2004, 05:47 AM
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Enlightenment leads to expanded consciousness, and is complelty relative.
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Aug 19, 2004, 05:54 AM
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Aug 19, 2004, 06:13 AM
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Enlightenment is a process. It is my belief that we will never arrive, not in this physical lifetime. That is not to say that we will not progress towards a more enlightened state in this, our physical, existence. It has been my experience, that it is definitely a process that involes a daily sometimes hourly effort. I have also found it to be somewhat like a revolving door; you may choose to do "the work" and proceed forward or you can rest on your gifts of knowledge and fall back through the door as if you never knew the better way. It can be very simple, but usually not very easy to move forward, to grow, to have more revealed to you...I am stuck in the doorway at this very moment. I haven't forgotten the better way. I can't seem to let go of yesterday and tomorrow in order to enjoy today...I'll get there, this has happened before. I need to let go. Simple; not easy.
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Aug 19, 2004, 07:28 AM
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And my friend knows that the proccess is not just (!) intellectual.
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Aug 19, 2004, 07:45 AM
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I am gratified by your urbane and helpful responses.
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Aug 19, 2004, 08:32 AM
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MOI????!!!
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Aug 19, 2004, 09:57 AM
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Only the limited Egoic perspectives of consciousness and enlightenment are Relative. What the fully enlightened experience is not relative, only the relation of definitions to what is experienced by the ego is relative. The experiences of the ego may change but if the experience is of the absolute, IT (the absolute) will never change. When you look at IT from different levels of awareness or multidimensionally the mind in association with ego follow habitual patterns of thought based on past impressions, but to rise above the association that is dual, to the Union of the absolute with manifest reality relativity becomes meaningless. If you rise above the limits of Time then all things exist in the infinite. They do not come and go by relative design because they do not come and go, they simply are as is the Consciousness that manipulates it because it can and will. From the absolute reality of Union, all things are formless and yet have form but the form is not relative to anything other than a need or desire to associate the personal to the manifest, separate from the absolute One consciousness, which in reality does not exist above and beyond the formless. |
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Aug 19, 2004, 10:07 AM
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There seems to be a confusion here I'd like to take a stab at. When we speak of expanding consciousness, this does not imply the existence of ego. Joesus, you seem to be conflating definitions when you assume that expanding consciousness presumes ego. It does not. It only presumes Being. Expanding consciousness generally refers to expanding one's own consciousness, where one's own consciousness does not necessarily include duality or the existence of ego. To talk of Absolutes is meaningless insofar as it is something outside our experience, since all experiences are relative. The Absolute is merely a conjecture. It has no utility, nor basis, in experience. If you object, then why don't you tell us more about this Absolute? How big is it? Is it growing? Is it timeless? Is it spaceless? Pray tell. |
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Aug 19, 2004, 10:57 AM
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No human has yet achieved FULL enlightenment and any human perspective on it will only achieve a RELATIVE understanding that proceeds along UNIversal lines or LAWS.
Here are the three ancient LAWS. 1. As Above, SO Below 2. RIGHT THOUGHT = RIGHT ACTION 3. Scrire, Potere, Audere, Tacere (Know, Will, Dare, Keep Silent) I replace the last one due to the abrogation of the Tacere portion in the Atomistical period of the late 20s. I use instead a saying attributed to Jesus, though far older. He who is least selfish is most selfish. |
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Aug 19, 2004, 11:10 AM
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I don't understand this. It sounds like a paradox. |
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Aug 19, 2004, 11:30 AM
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Nils Bohr - 'A Great truth has an opposite which is also true, a trivial truth has an opposite which is merely false.'
Mayan saying - 'Do not put yourself in front of your Self.' |
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Aug 19, 2004, 11:33 AM
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Arians go back to Gaedhilic schools which go back to Abaris the Druid who taught Pythagoras which is the last record of the Bairdic University System having a Dean.
Arians and Eire-yanns (Yann = the people of) became screwed over to Aryans by those who got a little glimpse of this system in the late 19th Century. - The Nazis. |
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Aug 19, 2004, 12:28 PM
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"What am I" searching for? At what level? An expanded state of consciousness that allows my relative cognitive thought processes the ability to breathe order into the disordered state of mental realities that, as a member of the global community, I co-exist in, co-habituate in, and co-create in, and co-develop in, and expand and elevate the collective consciousness of mankind in our quest for "What it means to be." (As I typed this last statement, I thought, "Can I elevate the collective consciousness because, 'I am Man,' and do I have the ability to raise consciousness for womankind, for 'Do I know, relatively speaking, what the world imprints like on the female psyche?'" May be, if one believes in the whole reincarnation complex, and 'I was Woman' in some previous incarnations. Poses an interesting paradox and parallax. |
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Aug 19, 2004, 02:04 PM
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are you saying that you feel like a woman trapped in a man's body? what?! |
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Aug 19, 2004, 02:07 PM
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Infering multi-dimensional perspectives of life, from a man's point of view vs. a woman's point of view.
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Aug 19, 2004, 02:10 PM
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Was a rhetorical question, un-elightened one. Crawl out from the turbid depths of your ignorance.
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Aug 19, 2004, 02:11 PM
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maybe he meant "he who appears least selfish is most selfish"? Looks can be deceiving and everyone knows that best way to feign something is to temporarily believe in it (or at least that's what actors tell me). It is natural to seek what is to our advantage, which on the face of it suggests we should all be overtly selfish; however, this is not the case, and it appears that nature gives a selective advantage to those who are covertly selfish versus those who are overtly selfish. In some cases, the selfishness is so covert that the person genuinely believes they're being altruistic and selfless, but rest assured that at the core, behind all appearances, self-preservation is at work and is pulling the strings. Altruism is all too often a guise for selfishness. The question is, do genuine altruism and selflessness exist, and if so, what does that mean, that the person has no self-preservation instinct? |
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