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Laz
post Apr 14, 2004, 03:15 AM
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I've never quite seen anything like this before, how cool smile.gif It is a trip meter for Salvia Divinorum from legal-highs.org

Level -1 "S stands for SUBTLE effects." A feeling that something is happening, although it is difficulty to say just what. Relaxation and increased sensual appreciation may be noted. This mild level is useful for meditation and may facilitate sexual pleasure.

Level - 2 "A stands for ALTERED perception." Colors and textures are paid attention to. Appreciation of music may be enhanced. Space may appear of greater or lesser depth than is usual. But visions do not occur at this level. Thinking becomes less logical, and more playful; short term memory difficulties are may be noted.

Level - 3 "L stands for LIGHT visionary state." Closed eye visuals (clear imagery with eyes closed: fractal patterns, vine-like and geometric patterns, visions of objects and designs). The imagery is often two dimensional. If open eyed visual effects occur these are usually vague and fleeting. At this level phenomena similar to the hypnagogic phenomena that some people experience at sleep onset occur. At this level visions are experienced as eye candy but are not confused with reality.

Level - 4 "V stands for VIVID visionary state." Complex three dimensional realistic appearing scenes occur. Sometimes voices may be heard. With eyes open contact with consensual reality will not be entirely lost, but when you close your eyes you may forget about consensus reality and enter completely into a dreamlike scene. Shamanistic journeying to other lands, foreign or imaginary; encounters with beings, entities, spirits; or travels to other ages may occur. You may even live the life of another person. At this level you have entered the shamans world. Or if you prefer you are in dream time. With eyes closed you experience fantasies (dream like happenings, with a story line to them). So long as your eyes are closed you may believe they are really occurring. This differs from the eye candy closed eye imagery, of level 3.

Level - 5 "I stands for IMMATERIAL existence." At this level consciousness remains and some though processes are still lucid, but one becomes completely involved in inner experience and looses all contact with consensual reality. Individuality may be lost; one experiences merging with God/dess, mind, universal consciousness, or bizarre fusions with other objects real or imagined, e.g. merging with a wall may be experienced. At this level it is impossible to function in consensual reality, but unfortunately some people do not remain still but move around in this befuddled state. For this reason a sitter is essential to ensure the safety of someone voyaging to the inner levels. To the person experiencing this, the phenomenon may be terrifying or exceedingly pleasant; but to an outside observer the individual may appear confused or disoriented.

Level 6 - "A stands for AMNESIC effects " At this stage either consciousness is lost; or at least one is unable to later recall what one is experiencing. The individual may fall, or remain immobile or thrash around; somnambulistic behavior may occur; injuries can be sustained without pain being felt; on awakening the individual will have no recollection of what he/she did, experienced or said in level 6. People cannot ever recall what they experience in this very deep trance state. This is not a sought after level as later nothing can be recalled of the experience.


I've been to level 4, looking forward to level 5. Does anyone have similar scales for other drugs?
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post Sep 28, 2006, 01:22 PM
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I agree that there certainly needs to be more communication. I think that drugs of many kinds can aid in gaining access to alternative states and seeing more of reality and other beneficial effects. However, there are certainly negative side effects to many of these drugs and negative consequences to other use and abuse. Addiction is one of the worst. It is my opinion that the key is to know when you have gotten what you can from drugs and also to give yourself time to absorb what you take in from the experience. This is all individual and cannot be done externally. Let's be open-minded about this, guys.
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Laz   Salvia Trip Meter   Apr 14, 2004, 03:15 AM
Joesus   Level 1. (ignorance) Curiosity and inexperience le...   Apr 17, 2004, 06:03 PM
Flex   Level 1. (ignorance) Curiosity and inexperience l...   Oct 18, 2006, 06:33 PM
solartrinity   Level 1. (ignorance) Curiosity and inexperience l...   Jan 02, 2007, 01:51 PM
Hey Hey   There isnt enough research or proof that drugs can...   Jan 02, 2007, 10:44 PM
solartrinity   There isnt enough research or proof that drugs ca...   Jan 03, 2007, 12:55 AM
Guest   I take it you're not too big on Salvia, Joesus...   Apr 17, 2004, 06:48 PM
Joesus   Clean living, and emotional stability through the ...   Apr 17, 2004, 08:07 PM
Laz   Fear and loathing in Lincoln City!   Apr 18, 2004, 11:54 PM
Joesus   You don't like, Laz?   Apr 19, 2004, 07:20 AM
Rick   There's Timothy Leary's levels of consci...   Feb 25, 2005, 01:56 PM
nongrata   Rick thanks for tke link to Learys scale... Im no ...   Aug 11, 2005, 02:32 AM
Rick   Several writers have stated that mescaline, psiloc...   Aug 11, 2005, 11:28 AM
nongrata   Rick .... Im not usre if you've tried either (...   Aug 11, 2005, 10:25 PM
Rick   It's my policy to neither confirm nor deny the...   Aug 12, 2005, 12:00 PM
Hey Hey   a bit like not really knowing what life is witho...   Aug 19, 2005, 01:47 PM
Hey Hey   you think a pulse of 44 is good?!*! at le...   Aug 19, 2005, 01:53 PM
Unknown   drugs are a touchy subject. Some people have neve...   Aug 21, 2005, 12:59 PM
Rick   There are many reports in the literature of bene...   Aug 22, 2005, 09:23 AM
nongrata   Hey Hey Quite a scathing reply to something that ...   Aug 22, 2005, 09:29 AM
And Shepherds We Shall Be   I've never quite seen anything like this befo...   Jul 16, 2006, 05:23 AM
Darksanity   Joesus I dislike ur way of thinking it's with ...   Sep 14, 2006, 02:59 PM
trojan_libido   Societies problems are caused by lack of communica...   Sep 28, 2006, 07:58 AM
BornaDreamer   I agree that there certainly needs to be more comm...   Sep 28, 2006, 01:22 PM
Joesus   Making assumptions shows very little imaginatio...   Oct 02, 2006, 11:16 PM
BornaDreamer   Okay, I understand both sides of this issue and ha...   Oct 03, 2006, 12:11 AM
~LD~   I've never quite seen anything like this befo...   Oct 03, 2006, 01:15 AM
Joesus   I think this is what puts lindsay off too, when...   Oct 03, 2006, 10:27 AM
rhymer   Hi joesus, You say "The river flows towrad i...   Oct 03, 2006, 12:42 PM
Joesus   Hi joesus, You say "The river flows towrad ...   Oct 03, 2006, 01:46 PM
rhymer   Which came first, water or salt water? Nobody know...   Oct 03, 2006, 02:02 PM
Joesus   Which came first, water or salt water? Nobody kno...   Oct 03, 2006, 02:12 PM
rhymer   Your failure to answer my questions realistically ...   Oct 03, 2006, 03:07 PM
BornaDreamer   I do genuinely want to understand and I want to cr...   Oct 03, 2006, 01:13 PM
Joesus   I do genuinely want to understand and I want to c...   Oct 03, 2006, 02:06 PM
Joesus   The chemical nature of water is not what I refer...   Oct 03, 2006, 04:54 PM
Joesus   Someone who gets it. :)   Oct 18, 2006, 07:17 PM
jaay   Great topic, thanks for sharing this! I'v...   Dec 06, 2006, 09:08 PM
lucid_dream   And as for the naysayers, like Joesus, I hope you ...   Dec 06, 2006, 09:35 PM
Flex   And as for the naysayers, like Joesus, I hope you...   Dec 06, 2006, 09:47 PM
lucid_dream   [quote name='lucid_dream' post='73040' date='Dec ...   Dec 06, 2006, 10:02 PM
trojan_libido   I apologise in assuming Joesus had no prior experi...   Dec 11, 2006, 09:39 AM
project-2501   I'm a hardhead, salvia 20x extract has virtual...   Dec 11, 2006, 12:58 PM
trojan_libido   I'm a hardhead, salvia 20x extract has virtua...   Dec 12, 2006, 07:27 AM
project-2501   I'm a hardhead, salvia 20x extract has virtu...   Dec 12, 2006, 09:47 AM
trojan_libido   [quote name='trojan_libido' post='73489' date='De...   Dec 13, 2006, 04:54 AM
xanadu   I became bored early on with the salvia trip. I ha...   Dec 11, 2006, 02:16 PM
Flex   Does anyone know what the deal is with Salvia in t...   Dec 12, 2006, 08:04 AM
xanadu   Flex, salvia is totally legal at the moment. I wou...   Dec 12, 2006, 01:31 PM
Flex   Flex, salvia is totally legal at the moment. I wo...   Dec 12, 2006, 04:45 PM
Flex   Even ordering under a false name, and with a money...   Dec 12, 2006, 07:59 PM
Technologist   I purchased some salvia from a local head shop whi...   Dec 12, 2006, 08:12 PM
Gahan   I reached level five with two hits of 20x extract....   Dec 19, 2006, 04:48 PM
Joesus   Based on levels of conscius awareness the waking...   Jan 02, 2007, 03:49 PM
lucid_dream   Experimenting with an external agent ignores the r...   Jan 03, 2007, 01:45 AM
solartrinity   Can i say that was quite a harsh response! Wo...   Jan 02, 2007, 10:15 PM
Joesus   I would say it was a response fitting the mindse...   Jan 03, 2007, 12:00 AM
solartrinity   "Higher states of consciousness are not tempo...   Jan 03, 2007, 03:02 AM
Hey Hey   "Higher states of consciousness are not temp...   Jan 03, 2007, 03:41 AM
Culture   "Higher states of consciousness are not tem...   Jan 03, 2007, 03:59 AM
solartrinity   "Higher states of consciousness are not tem...   Jan 03, 2007, 04:29 AM
Hey Hey   It is a very personal experience and the day I am...   Jan 03, 2007, 04:57 AM
code buttons   It is a very personal experience and the day I a...   Jan 03, 2007, 09:38 PM
lucid_dream   if some have given negative responses, it is likel...   Jan 03, 2007, 01:03 AM
solartrinity   if some have given negative responses, it is like...   Jan 03, 2007, 01:51 AM
trojan_libido   I have never had such a burst of passion and reinv...   Jan 03, 2007, 04:54 AM
Joesus   No, but I am aware that certain things happen fo...   Jan 03, 2007, 06:14 PM
Joesus   Yeah Dammit! Do what you gotta do, and if your...   Jan 03, 2007, 08:01 PM
Joesus   Well I'd say when you get over the idea that...   Jan 03, 2007, 09:01 PM
trojan_libido   No problems from my camp Emma. I am cool and clev...   Jan 04, 2007, 02:37 AM
Joesus   Nice recovery, felt that left hemisphere kick in.   Jan 04, 2007, 10:23 AM
solartrinity   Nice recovery, felt that left hemisphere kick in....   Jan 04, 2007, 11:06 AM
Hey Hey   Aparently they can take photos of your brainIf the...   Jan 04, 2007, 12:14 PM
naldoisgone   I've been to level 4, looking forward to level...   Mar 26, 2008, 07:41 AM
Flex   I've been to level 4, looking forward to leve...   Mar 26, 2008, 01:10 PM
derekownsyou   You got all off topic when you first came in joesu...   Jul 25, 2008, 08:04 PM
trojan_libido   I believe what you describe is very similar to the...   Mar 17, 2009, 12:15 AM


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