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I see nothing wrong with experimenting so long as it's understood that there are risks involved and so long as you're willing to take full responsibility for your actions.

But if it goes wrong the taxpayer still picks up the tab (at least in the UK)*. So, it's NOT OK to experiment if you rely on other people to sort out your potential troubles. Let's get responsible about this.

Trials (note the word here) should be undertaken scientifically (and by that I mean by scientists/statisticians [and certainly not independently by Fred Flintstone OR medics]) and anecdotal evidence should be ignored at all costs.

* And don't let's get sidetracked by similar issues with smoking, drinking etc - let's stick to the point of THIS item.
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post Sep 06, 2006, 05:02 PM
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I have tried DXM at 2nd plateau twice... Experience is pretty interesting and I got totally in Trance listening some music... It does really have huge life-changing impact (after the experiences I always want to make my life better and be a better person... I often quit all drugs for some time after using DXM). I'll have to try the 1st plateau for "smart-drug" use and 3rd plateau for "God Mode" someday ^^ I also HAVE to try Ketamine someday ^^
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post Jun 14, 2009, 12:58 PM
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microDose DXM & Cannabis

Doses

15mg DXM
3000mg Piracetam
1/2 bowl cannabis bud
1 cig

Having ten years ago taken about a dozen 250-500mg DXM trips, the subject found that they started with amazing visuals and alien intercommunicative mindspace, including persistent closed-eye visuals and open-eye space warping. They were great but soon were replaced by psychosis mindspaces, especially on the second half of the trip.

One day the subject will undoubtedly write about those past experiences, however they will be referenced only in examplar cases within this document.

The rationale for this test, more than a decade later from the highly undesireable experiences, was to use DXM not as a psychoactive but to prevent the nasty cough that had the participant wasting large quantities of bud trying to smoke. This cough was dry (ie., unproductive).

In short, the desired result was achieved but something else - rather startling - emerged. Not completely unexpected, but fascinating nonetheless.

Please note that this is being written starting at time 20min.

At time 0 a standard teaspoon (15mg) of DXM liquid preparation was orally ingested. The DXM preparation contained pure DXM, artificial sweetener, colors, etc. but did not contain CPM, ASA, or any other medicinals. There was also no sugar present, as the artificial sweetener took the duty entirely.

At time 20 or thereabouts, half a bowl of decent cannabis bud was smoked. It was found to go down easily and the effects were achieved quickly. A definite lack of coughing or irritation was observed.

Since the subject was also able to feel the shape of his awareness very tangibly, and capable to some extent to test the shape, conformity values, and dimensional flexibility of said awareness, the subject did so continuously during the period up to the end of this writing.

Carefully the tendency to become nanoinsane (slightly detectable tendencies, based on internal, motion and volitional trajectories) was observed.

It was found that the tiny 15mg dose was able to significantly strengthen and clarify the resulting cannabis high.

The subject's previous experiences would be closely compared with for even the slightest traces of resemblance to his present condition.

One such event happened while dosing the cannabis at T = 20 min, while he was holding the cannabis pipe for a draw that would be at about a quarter bowl used. Momentarily he stopped, realizing that somewhere, inside his mind a tiny thing that was not normal had occured. Not in the way that such things occur on cannabis alone. For an instant, he noted the fleeting feeling - the ghost - of that insanity of decade's yore. Even upon realizing it, it had promptly slipped away, easily displaced by the moment of concern and awareness.

After the half-bowl was consumed, the subject smoked a usual cigarette. Instead of the usual it was a lot more conscious, cleaner, lacking the tensions and slight jitteriness that had always accompanied it after a dose of cannabis.

Even as the subject moved inside to his computer, he was intensely pressing his awareness to find a flaw, and thinking much, much more clearly and logically than usual after such a dose of cannabis.

There must be a sacrifice to using this microdose, but if it existed it was small. That, he felt, was close to the entire truth, the totality of the answer. The nasty sliver of remaining doubt, the three-percent or one-percent remaining, however, was a concern.

Such clarity must be paid for. Errors were made due to the speed (and ease) of the cannabis comeup. Only half the usual amount was smoked, which lowered the activity yield by somewhat less than fifty percent. The somewhat less part came from the DXM, with a few extra gifts.

To conclude, it must be said that DXM is very much psychoactive at the 15mg level. The subject was clearly stimulated relative to his usual effect on the other substances (which was routine), but also noted that there seemed to be some loss of the fine coefficient. Such loss was also expected but appears to be higher than the stimulation value alone would indicate compared with classic psychostimulants. The difference is attributed to DXM's psychotizing effect which only becomes testably apparent at larger doses. The full penalty of the psychotizing effect portion is paid during comedown. Because it is a tiny effect-fraction at the test dose, it is not strictly noticed.

As a sidenote, visual noise in darkness (VNID) was not affected. However, the subject was during notation only illuminated by dim red light from a software-monochromatized LCD monitor.

Using a minimal dose, it is possible (at least with the piracetam) to amplify, and somewhat alter, the cannabis / piracetam / cigarette experience (cannabis / piracetam phase and total phase). The alteration is toward being able to think more clearly, write quicker, and not suffer the head fogginess of the former. Piracetam does help the subject, but was never by itself this effective.

Also, memory is enhanced significantly, and so is hearing, probably mostly due to the lower cannabis noise and higher alertness. Exactly the opposite of the usual effects shown to the subject by his high-dose DXM trips (usually alone, sometimes with small amount of low-potency cannabis) a decade ago.

Memory enhancement ocurred with both short-term and long-term functional modalities. It is hoped that this document can best illustrate the actual case, as it was written during the peak.

The clarity of this combination is truly profound and not a placebo effect. It is there but if allowed to bloom with even higher doses will corrupt into insanity. That is how it is with the deliriants. The corruption point differs between people and other factors.

Visual effects were also looked for, in particular the subject's usual measures: room corners that don't meet at ninety degrees, motion trails and other visual effects both on moving the head rapidly and moving the eyes alone, rapidly. These visual effects were so close to nil as to be indistinguishable from it.

Balance and gait were excellent, in fact far superior to the effect of cannabis, cannabis-tobacco, and cannabis-piracetam-tobacco combinations of the subject's former experiences.

Organization ability including working with difficult objects outside in darkness was observed to be distinctly improved, with typical time-to-completion decreases of 40-60%.

Finally, a noted relaxation began somewhere around twenty minutes after the DXM ingestion. The usual muscle tension and shivering that occurs to the subject on cannabis (smoked outdoors in cold wind) was not present. Instead, a calm warmth especially in the legs was noted. Also noticed was even warmth of general body temperature, and a slight increase in heat generation (basal metabolic rate).

Urination frequency and difficulty were as normal: no detectable change.

The subject found that DXM aided the effort of tobacco smoking, and modulated its affects in a positive way by decreasing excessive stimulation and altering the qualitative effects.

Overall, the experience was found to be excellent, cheap and on-label safe. It has been a net benefit, and the subject sees a continuation of the practice. If tolerance reduces effects, dose will not be raised but staggered, or simply maintained. The subject doesn't want a trace of the nasties that might start to crop up at 30mg.

The subject would recommend to anyone, including those that don't want a 'DXM trip', to use 15mg or maximum 30mg of DXM twenty minutes prior to cannabis ingestion. For the simple reason that if smoking cannabis, the material makes the process much less uncomforable, ie. it is soothing. Beyond that, many will not likely notice any other effect, but it is likely that many would find the warming, stimulating and clarifying effect of a DXM microdose to reduce some of the negative effects of cannabis.

The compromise of 'purity' for those not wanting any of the usual DXM trip effects is so miniscule that it is not a reasonable objection in the subject's opinion. And the subject is picky. There is a qualtitative change in the high, but it is not in the obvious direct of a typical DXM experience. The extreme divergence of DXM's effects at different dosages has often been mentioned in the literature - this case is exemplar.

Some of the negative effects reduced significantly or eliminated:

1. body coldness in cold weather.
2. muscle tension
3. shivering
4. mental fogginess

All accompanied by a significant mental energy boost and increase in the sound effects and other effects typical of the cannabis high.

For those worried about trace psychosis, after careful but singular testing it appears the threat is so minimal as to be unnoticeable. Thus this technique is viable for all cannabis smokers that want neither the risks nor usual effects of a DXM trip, but do desire an easier smoke and cleaner, more powerful effect from their cannabis.

End of Report
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post Jun 14, 2009, 01:00 PM
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microDose DXM: That Night and Next Morning

Due to the unfortunate necessity of recording the experience, the subject could not watch his chosen anime until almost an hour after the peak. Nonetheless, when he did it was absolutely amazing.

The colors were brilliant, much more so than before, the sound was so very much more rich. The intro song was full of emotion, yet the subject did not himself feel excessively emotional.

The plot while convoluted was understandable. There seemed to be only the most minimal impairment of cognitive ability, less even than previous cannabis-alone experiences.

The subject fell to bed about four and a half hours after cannabis dosing. He noted that it took about twice as long to fall asleep as usual.

The dreams this fool experienced were stunningly magnificent beyond all he had had in the last year. Their clarity increased toward the end of the night, with deep color, sound, tons of interaction with people, multiple three-dimensional perspectives.

When he awoke next morn, the subject noted that a clear and high mental and physical energy replaced the usual sluggardly grogginess which typically greeted his tired soul upon abandonment of the bed.

Looking out the window, he noted that (this bright Summer day) the leaves blowing in wind, the faultlessly blue sky, were all of high chromatic saturation yet without excessive edge enhancement, motion-resolution compromise, or other artifact.

Sound was easily heard, also without artifact and present in nominally normal volume.

Appetite was minimal - as it was during the acute phase night previous - which is unusual for cannabis alone which normally causes significant hunger and symptoms of low blood sugar, especially in the acute phase. This alteration indicates that even at a low dose, DXM slightly decreases appetite while also slightly increasing resting metabolic rate.

Therefore the subject concluded that a DXM microdose taken the night previous also mitigated some common next-day cannabis effects.
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post Jun 15, 2009, 02:10 PM
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The subject returns to report that a second session was engaged the very next day.

The results continued to mimick the first day, including effective cough suppression.

Amazingly, that night the ultradreams came back! The subject can remember every second of both the cannabis experience and the following dreams that evening (dosing only a few hours before bedtime).

The dreams were the most profoundly vivid, functional that the subject has experienced in years. He is amazed beyond all previous experience. The visions, accuracy, and clarity of consciousness, as well as the joy of waking in absolute clarity after these super-dreams, has him salivating for tonight's next big adventure.

Noted in these dreams:

1. Highly saturated colors
2. Extremely detailed three dimensional environments
3. Absolutely real three-D objects
4. Interaction with internally consistent temporally real body position and true physics

The clarity, vivancy, and memory capability seems to be growing by the day, not decreasing. As stated in the original post, the drugs and their doses:

3000mg Piracetam
1/2-2/3 bowl cannabis bud
15mg DXM HBr
few cigs

Furthermore, the next day great motivation, superior clarity and none of the usual fuzziness, tiredness or slight amotivation usually present from previous day's cannabis.

It must be noted that ALL these effects are entirely absent without the 15mg DXM. There is a totally new application of DXM in correct microdose as a true nootropic and potent dream synthesizer.
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post Jun 16, 2009, 08:56 PM
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The subject can feel the slight mental change from 15mg DXM in about 15-20 minutes. He is playing with fire, riding the red horse. He can feel the Beast's edge and it is not human nor is it humane. The subject is aware that even at the edge, he is playing with an evil worse than death itself.

In eerie silence and unnatural quiet can be heard the unsounds of its silent rage.
The beast screams within the bars of its dosage cage.
It wants out and about
the dream of a bull in a neural china-shop.

A line in the sand drawn with the surest hand
will restrict it to the domains of cageland.

Is the spoon real or just a feel?
The Matrix has a steal, but for real...
if there's only one then it's for real
more and a mirror of liquid metal awaits
the fool of dose multidates
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post Jun 18, 2009, 06:33 PM
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After more days of the same, the subject notes that the experiences continue with no sign of tolerance :)

Also, not only does the 15mg DXM clarify and liquefy {liquifry} the cannabis experience, but it also leaves the subject with wonderful energy, way better emotional stability, and a nice feeling the next day. These awesomenesses have not decreased as of yet (5th trip last night).
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post Jun 23, 2009, 06:10 PM
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So I tested 30mg 45min-1h before the bowl of bud. It is absolutely amazing.

The difference is like the olde tube-amp, clipping of higher thoughts is more noticeable than at 15mg but not much more so.

The cannabis-high is lengthened by twice and clarified enormously. Physical co-ordination is way better and it is also easier on 30mg than without to do difficult physical things in hard environments.

Best effect though is later - about several hours after the bud-bowl. This is in the evening after dark btw. This wonderful effect is like floating on air. Being a cloud. Drifting, but without the dumbness, toxicity, liver burden of alcohol, or side-effects, cost, addiction of opiates!

Yes, for the admission price of two measly teaspoons or 30mg total, the bud becomes at first much clearer and much longer & stronger, then slowly transforms (after 1.5-2 hours) into the most clearheaded floatiness imagineable.

Even better, there are no other typical DXM effects at 30mg, and no hangover, headache or any other nasties the next day :) This includes all the other typical DXM nasties such as:

* psychosis
* difficulty urinating
* excessive body temperature (slight increase in temp is noted)
* next-day depression
* next-day brain-fog & other similars

Actually, the next day is pure relaxation with total intellectual functionality and much easier-going more relaxed personality. It is like DXM has totally different personalities. A Multiple Personality Drug, based on dose.

Finally, as for tolerance, it seems to be reversed - as in 'reverse tolerance'. The good effects (as of the third 30mg experience) are getting better and better.

Dreams are also super-vivid as with 15mg. Last nite it was a hard drive with all these weird-sized platters which I saw on taking it apart. In dreaming on this super-combo everything is super clear. Physical touch can be felt, in ways that have so far been too embarrasing to describe in detail here.... :)

So it seems that I'll stick with 30mg, since it's super cheap and I can have my chocolate cheezecake plus eat it too :)

PS. DXM works much better to stop coughing at 30mg than at 15mg. Cannabis-dosing is much easier, as in quite pleasureable whereas before it was becoming an unpleasantry.

Also, music in the dark is quite amazing. It doesn't lose its amazingness so much but more-challenging sound like Merzbow helps to offset the quieter more relaxed mentality.
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post Jun 23, 2009, 07:21 PM
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One more thing I just remembered, it's the most important to me.

On both 15mg and 30mg I still felt human {totally human}. There was no compromise of the human form at either dosage. Everyone has their priorities and this is mine. All the other good effects wouldn't have been enough if I'd felt twisted in some unpleasant way like the high doses cause.
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One more thing I just remembered, it's the most important to me.

On both 15mg and 30mg I still felt human {totally human}. There was no compromise of the human form at either dosage. Everyone has their priorities and this is mine. All the other good effects wouldn't have been enough if I'd felt twisted in some unpleasant way like the high doses cause.

The naturalness at this small dose range makes it a true kittie-cat, not the flesh-tearing lion it once was. I do like cats, and this one's nice and furry with no bite or nibble. It just mewls quietly as its pillow-soft body rolls me into the clouds...
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