Joesus' Cult Options

[Dan]

Carl (also known as 'joesus')

since I can't be heard on your own board ( http://pub141.ezboard.com/ftheishayatraditionfrm1 , here Carl is known as 'maha') without being seen as 'abusive', I thought I'd bring it over here.

Your 'philosophy' is junk, all you do is convince people to ditch their life and follow you into your own narcissistic delusions. The fact of the matter is that you are a sociopath, manipulating people without conscience.

http://home.datawest.net/esn-recovery/artcls/socio.htm
http://www.rickross.com/reference/brainwas...nwashing11.html

your little cult is laughably transparent to anybody who is not fooled by your 'charm' and your philosophy of intentional ignorance. I pity all the fools who believe in you and follow you, because in the end they will have to come to terms with the dismal condition they have fallen into.

keep erasing everything I post over on your board, because your control over your subjects depends on it
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Dan, this is not intended as an edit, here is why: How do I (Lindsay) reach an administrator? I can post here, but I cannot reply to it. I get a notification of an error. Could the problem be with my 'puter?
Also, I cannot post a picture, an avatar or a signature.

[Dan]

Hi Shawn

I understand how you might want a little testimony with regard to Carl's cult, as there is nothing more convincing than an actual victim of his sociopathy. I have had a little contact with one of Carl's former contemporaries and one of the original 'ishayas' (who informed me of his 'pre-ishaya' name). Their leader, a guy named Vaugh Abrams (his 'ishaya' name is Maharishi Sadashiva Isham, or 'MSI') developed this religion after becoming disenfranchised with TM and hallucinating an 'astral' visit to the himilayas where he purports to have made contact with the mythical 'ishayas'. I was informed that MSI subjected his 'students' to a strict brainwashing regime that included severing relations with family, isloation from all except the 'group', chanting and meditating on dogmatic ideas endlessly(the 'ascension attitudes'), disclosing sensitive emotional information during group sessions (which was, of course, used against the disclosee to manipulate them), and more. Here's an excerpt from this communication (hopefully I'm not overstepping my bounds in displaying this)
[quote]MSI (Vaugh Abrams) was an ex TM teacher. He left 2 ex-wives and 3 kids in Fairfield, Iowa and took off with another TM teacher, Annie, across the country. This was during the time when he supposedly went to the Himalayas and encountered the ishayas. Later he maintained that he never said he went to the Himalays on this plain; he went there on another plain (astral, or whatever) that was just as real if not more so. He and Annie developed the first sphere along the way, and started teaching it in Charlotte, North Carolina. He dumped Annie for Sarah and started developing his teaching. He hadn't thought of the Ishaya story until later, after reading the Celestine Prophecy. As I recall, the other spheres are phrases from the Vedas, stuff he got from TM.
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(this source also informed me of having lost most of their personal belongings and having spent some $40,000 on this nonsense)

This is most definitely not an honest religion (if there can be such a beast). Rather, it is a new-age religion full of mythical nonsense that is used by sociopathic individuals as a means to psychologically manipulate vulnerable people into a position of submission. Carl, having been subject to physical and psychological abuse by his father at an early age (according to my source), was likely 'primed' for the experience of following a 'spiritual' sociopath and taking on the mantle for himself. Now he is simply acting out the role presented to him, without conscience and with full deliberation (or, as he sees it, 'without wavering'). In fact, it is this lack of conscience and everpresent intelligent deliberation of how to achieve his goals that allows him to put on such a convincing front to those who are simply unable to recognize his sociopathy.