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post Oct 24, 2003, 08:56 PM
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the meaning of life,,, what is it, why are we living, as individuals, as a species, as a global community.
is it simply survival and continuence of life, natures response to an acceptable environment, is it divine and spiritual, a stage in the cycle that is our being, is it meaningless, subject to the whims of imagination and circumstance???? anyone?
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post Oct 25, 2003, 09:40 AM
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Life is the manifestation of Expression. What is the purpose? Because you can, or actually it is the nature of the creator. That ability of the creator to create is natural and therefore the most perfect state of being for the creator.
Definitions of meaning as applied to life is ego or the manifest mechanism that allows consciousness to experience itself. The further away from its source as the creator in knowing and being that, the ego identifies with its relative manifestation and becomes immersed not in its Self but in its outer manifestation.
Happiness in dualistic relative terms means to feel happy as opposed to sadness.
Bliss has been attached to a higher meaning of fulfillment that is achieved not from anything in life but from pure being. Being not the emotion or the experience or the expression but the Self in its form and function.
You can be happy or blissful in sadness and even anger if you are released from any judgment or condition that may be placed on the expression/life.
The human expression is not limited to anything other than the presupposed limitations you apply to yourself and life. This loss of awareness and inability to realize the Self as the creator leads to dual interpretation of happiness and sadness, sickness and health, anger and joy.
These separate identifications of being when united into a whole expression become less effective as the illusionary boundaries of expression when the conscious awareness rises above the idea of suffering within these associative limited realities.

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was once asked if it wouldn't be more productive to feed the hundgry man rather than teach him how to be conscious.
His reply was if you teach him to be more conscious he becomes energized by his knowledge of Self and his objective approach to life, becomes more enabled to create as opposed to being a victim to circumstance and therefore becomes a 'Happy" hungry man.
It still makes me smile, the look on his face as he happily bounced in his seat telling the student the story in the university auditorium. smile.gif
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