Life After Death Brainmeta Poll Options

[KoolK3n]

I'm gonna start this topic off a little differently this time.
A simple yes or no answer will suffice as I am only gathering viewpoints.

Do you believe in an afterlife? (Regardless of any religion)

[Quantum Sunlight]

Yes

[rhymer]

No

[Joesus]

define life...

[Jakare]

define life...

Here we go again Bloody semantics.

Anyway, can i answer in percentages? If the answer to that question is negative I would say no. If is positive i would say 80% no, 20% yes.

[Quantum Sunlight]

Do you believe that the cells in your body are reborn after they die? Do the cells in your body not live forever, as long as 'you' are alive?

[KoolK3n]

Can i haz me certificate of transcendence plzzz?

Just pulled off my first successful OBE...
Absolutely insane! The paralysis was strong, the movement was fluid and clear, and the sounds and vibrations were intense. Haven't slept in two days until last night which was for roughly 11 hours of sleep.

[Dianah]

Can i haz me certificate of transcendence plzzz?

Just pulled off my first successful OBE...
Absolutely insane! The paralysis was strong, the movement was fluid and clear, and the sounds and vibrations were intense. Haven't slept in two days until last night which was for roughly 11 hours of sleep.

Good for you!

yep...I believe in an afterlife.

[Rick]

No.

[Dianah]

No.

Glad to see you back!

[Jakare]

Can i haz me certificate of transcendence plzzz?

Just pulled off my first successful OBE...
Absolutely insane! The paralysis was strong, the movement was fluid and clear, and the sounds and vibrations were intense. Haven't slept in two days until last night which was for roughly 11 hours of sleep.

I have experienced OBEs loads of times and after a while i realized they don´t probe a shit about if afterlife is posible, they can even be provoked by brain stimulation in labs. It doesn´t matter how real they are, their just an special kind of vivid dream.
Anyway it is a great experience, congratulations Koolk3n.

[lucid_dream]

the question is ill-posed since there are underlying assumptions contained in it which are unfounded or that require justification. At the very least, the question is ambiguous because the terms are not defined. What exactly is the death that you're referring to? And to reiterate Joesus' point, what is life?

[Jakare]

And not less important, what is death?

[Jakare]

Although not directly related i found the next link quite interesting. There is some good comments there.

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/43989...n-be-restarted/

[KoolK3n]

the question is ill-posed since there are underlying assumptions contained in it which are unfounded or that require justification. At the very least, the question is ambiguous because the terms are not defined. What exactly is the death that you're referring to? And to reiterate Joesus' point, what is life?

A clear definition doesn't exist, but does it really matter?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death#Problems_of_definition

[Joesus]

A clear definition doesn't exist, but does it really matter?

Then is there a clear definition of an afterlife, since there is to be no clear definition of life?

I would have to say that life can be defined at different levels of awareness in reality.
The ego which attaches itself to the physical body and all of its attributes be they manufactured in the imagination or organically manufactured between life and death as a process of physical growth does not perpetuate itself beyond the death of the body.
The consciousness that inhabits the clothing that is the physical body extends itself into many manifestations of physical life and the ego that is the individuality of the soul is not the same ego as that of the relative world. Without the limitations of the physical boundaries that the subjective mind builds in the physical ego, consciousness operates much more freely, like it does when you are dreaming. One moves from one thought and experience of ones self to another without taking time into consideration as a subjective basis of belief where age is a progression from one point to another such as youth and old age. A person can move back and forth within the dream world from youth to old age or the other way around.
Time is a construct of consciousness to facilitate the experience in terms of progression where there are beginnings and endings. Consciousness is in a constant state of becoming and as such never dies, tho it can manufacture the experience of physical death, like you would manufacture a persona by donning a costume and acting out a particular experience. The birth of the experience begins when you design the set and dress in the costume to produce the play and the character dies when the play is over, but the consciousness continues on... ad infinitum.
Life then is determined thru beliefs within conscious levels of awareness, but as consciousness/Spirit is immortal, all experiences of physical realities and ego are considered by some as illusions of reality.

Before and after the experience of the character being personified by the physical ego, is the constant of the individual soul which is a reflection of the One consciousness that extenuates itself thru all souls and physical personalities. Physical personalities are like individual thoughts. In a physical timeline they come and go. In the multidimensional reality of the constant that is consciousness all personalities exist now, and are always in existence.

Everything is made up of consciousness. Every atom has its own consciousness, there is nothing other than life as long as consciousness is active and it has always been and always will be.

[KoolK3n]

A clear definition doesn't exist, but does it really matter?

Then is there a clear definition of an afterlife, since there is to be no clear definition of life?

No, people can interpret the term life, death, afterlife, etc in many different ways. Obviously, you and others are aware of the afterlife that I was implying. Actually, I hesitated using that word in my question, but proceeded because it was the most common.

A clear definition doesn't exist, but does it really matter?

I would have to say that life can be defined at different levels of awareness in reality.
The ego which attaches itself to the physical body and all of its attributes be they manufactured in the imagination or organically manufactured between life and death as a process of physical growth does not perpetuate itself beyond the death of the body.
The consciousness that inhabits the clothing that is the physical body extends itself into many manifestations of physical life and the ego that is the individuality of the soul is not the same ego as that of the relative world. Without the limitations of the physical boundaries that the subjective mind builds in the physical ego, consciousness operates much more freely, like it does when you are dreaming. One moves from one thought and experience of ones self to another without taking time into consideration as a subjective basis of belief where age is a progression from one point to another such as youth and old age. A person can move back and forth within the dream world from youth to old age or the other way around.
Time is a construct of consciousness to facilitate the experience in terms of progression where there are beginnings and endings. Consciousness is in a constant state of becoming and as such never dies, tho it can manufacture the experience of physical death, like you would manufacture a persona by donning a costume and acting out a particular experience. The birth of the experience begins when you design the set and dress in the costume to produce the play and the character dies when the play is over, but the consciousness continues on... ad infinitum.
Life then is determined thru beliefs within conscious levels of awareness, but as consciousness/Spirit is immortal, all experiences of physical realities and ego are considered by some as illusions of reality.

Before and after the experience of the character being personified by the physical ego, is the constant of the individual soul which is a reflection of the One consciousness that extenuates itself thru all souls and physical personalities. Physical personalities are like individual thoughts. In a physical timeline they come and go. In the multidimensional reality of the constant that is consciousness all personalities exist now, and are always in existence.

Everything is made up of consciousness. Every atom has its own consciousness, there is nothing other than life as long as consciousness is active and it has always been and always will be.

Brilliant! To sum it up, you treat life as it exists in seperate but unified planes of reality, right?

[KoolK3n]

Interesting controversial documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qSEi_sfaSU
Scole Experiments?

[Joesus]

To sum it up, you treat life as it exists in seperate but unified planes of reality, right?

Not Separate. Planes of reality are only separated by the mind in relative states of consciousness.

[voyaging]

There is only one universal consciousness. So in the personal sense that most humans imagine it, there is no personal, ego-based, self-based, afterlife (just in that there is no self in life), but universal consciousness is eternal and has no beginning or end.

[GodConsciousness]

call me a materialist, but i don't know how consciousness can exist without a neurobiological basis.

i am not saying that consciousness cannot exist without neurobiology, i just have not seen it with my own eyes (to the best of my knowledge).

and perhaps to clarify, i am referring to individuated complex consciousness capable of reason and perception.

[KoolK3n]

call me a materialist, but i don't know how consciousness can exist without a neurobiological basis.

i am not saying that consciousness cannot exist without neurobiology, i just have not seen it with my own eyes (to the best of my knowledge).

and perhaps to clarify, i am referring to individuated complex consciousness capable of reason and perception.

http://www.amazon.com/There-Afterlife-Comp...21994532&sr=8-1
Just started..

[GodConsciousness]

call me a materialist, but i don't know how consciousness can exist without a neurobiological basis.

i am not saying that consciousness cannot exist without neurobiology, i just have not seen it with my own eyes (to the best of my knowledge).

and perhaps to clarify, i am referring to individuated complex consciousness capable of reason and perception.

http://www.amazon.com/There-Afterlife-Comp...21994532&sr=8-1
Just started..

u will have to let us know how it is

[deeptrancenow]

Do you believe in an afterlife? (Regardless of any religion)

Yes