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| Trip like I do |
Sep 22, 2011, 01:48 PM
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| Trip like I do |
Sep 22, 2011, 01:56 PM
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If confirmed, the discovery would undermine Albert Einstein's 1905 theory of special relativity, which says that the speed of light is a "cosmic constant" and that nothing in the universe can travel faster.
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| Magister Hayk |
Sep 22, 2011, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE By Robert Evans GENEVA | Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:26pm EDT (Reuters) "It is a tiny difference," said Ereditato, who also works at Berne University in Switzerland, "but conceptually it is incredibly important. The finding is so startling that, for the moment, everybody should be very prudent." Much science-fiction literature is based on the idea that, if the light-speed barrier can be overcome, time travel might theoretically become possible. Definitely Magister Desmond Tiny would say that 'tiny differences' unveil supertiny possibilities. Funny is not it? |
| Magister Hayk |
Sep 22, 2011, 08:43 PM
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Now they need to conduct "Independent Testing", so it is not a fact, yet.
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| Flex |
Sep 23, 2011, 06:54 AM
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Why does it undermine Einstein? Maybe one little detail of relativity, but surely not relativity in its entirety. The point of relativity is just that light is a constant to all observers. Am I wrong?
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| KoolK3n |
Sep 23, 2011, 06:06 PM
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Eventually FTL would have been discovered, only the matter of sooner or later remained.
<3 CERN Also loved the 17 minute anti-matter storage. |
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Sep 26, 2011, 03:07 PM
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dimensionhop-may-allow-neutrinos-to-cheat-light-speed
Some theories posit that there are extra, hidden dimensions beyond the familiar four (three of space, one of time). It's possible that the speedy neutrinos tunnel through these extra dimensions, reducing the distance they have to travel to get to the target. |
| Flex |
Sep 26, 2011, 05:54 PM
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I have suspected this is possible myself. Have any of you experienced the Benihana phenomenon? Once you take a bite of their food with the ginger sauce, it somehow manages to travel the 25+ feet instantaneously.
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Sep 27, 2011, 01:55 PM
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Sep 27, 2011, 03:21 PM
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| KoolK3n |
Sep 27, 2011, 03:35 PM
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Don't neutrinos house seperate universes? When they crash into an atom, couldn't that signal a sort of Big Bang? |
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Sep 27, 2011, 04:14 PM
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I have suspected this is possible myself. Have any of you experienced the Benihana phenomenon? Once you take a bite of their food with the ginger sauce, it somehow manages to travel the 25+ feet instantaneously. "…We don't allow faster-than-light neutrinos in here," says the barman. A neutrino walks into a bar…" |
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Oct 19, 2011, 04:53 PM
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| P.j.S |
Oct 19, 2011, 05:58 PM
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If the neutrinos are showing up first at the detectors and are on time with GPS calculations does that mean that heavier particles like electrons are slowing down?
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| Magister Hayk |
Nov 07, 2011, 09:48 PM
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It looks like scientific community is standing at verge of emergence of New Physics.
So we are observing a fantastic Magical shift of the Magical Tables. Btw, I have noted that an old user of Brain Meta years ago told here about the coming shift in a quite strange mono-dialog with well known "mythological" personage. What I pity that I forgot to save the link when I read that passage 2 months ago on Brain Meta. |
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Jan 15, 2012, 08:43 PM
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----> was einstein wrong?
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| Trip like I do |
Feb 23, 2012, 08:11 AM
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seems a faulty cable connection may be to blame for the 60 nanosecond delay
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| Flex |
Feb 23, 2012, 09:25 AM
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Hahaha of course... I still don't see why a neutrino wouldn't be expected to travel faster than the speed of light in some instances so long as there is not absolute vacuum present, which if quantum mechanics is correct, the possibility of an absolute vacuum is nonexistent. Light travels slower than the speed of light so long as it is doing so through a medium
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Feb 23, 2012, 03:19 PM
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Here's about the only time you'll see him being wrong!!! ![]() |
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Feb 23, 2012, 03:39 PM
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nice.... I want that tattoo now
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| Trip like I do |
Feb 23, 2012, 04:12 PM
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Here's about the only time you'll see him being wrong!!! ![]() I'm sure that's how einstein must have felt inside! |
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Feb 24, 2012, 05:41 AM
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On a more serious note though.... these findings are rather disappointing but are an inevitable outcome
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