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post May 28, 2011, 07:51 AM
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Just wondering if anyone has researched Magnesium, and ATP's role as a cognitive enhancer. Apparently large doses of ATP is stored in the brain as MgATP (thus requiring Magnesium).

I am wondering if anyone has any information on the topic, such an elemental mineral but often so ignored by everyone.

Apparently some of the nootropic sellers have started adding Magnesium to their products, and US soil is becoming more and more depleted meaning that people are nowhere near getting the minerals that they used to get.

Noted the following posting at another forum, that showed how isolated tribesmen had perfect teeth, and structure, and also ingested 10x the amount of Vitamin D, and A that we do with processed foods, looking for connections.

Ancient Dietary Wisdom for Tomorrow's Children, By Sally Fallon.

http://westonaprice.org/traditional-diets/...-dietary-wisdom

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post May 28, 2011, 08:13 AM
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All ATP is co-ordinated to Mg2+. All of those negative charges on the phosphates need to be balanced somehow. Not a good idea to mega load any one mineral, as you will likely effect alternate mineral levels. There is a good deal of orthomolecular psychiatry work out there on mineral balances and cognition. Mg has many roles in the body. Blood concentrations remain virtually constant, thus it is not a good idea to mega load. Most Mg is actually found in bone, and is vital to forming cross linkages and assimilating calcium.

You cannot simply look at [Mg]. You have to look at ratios of all minerals which act in concert. i.e. [Cu]:[Zn], [Zn]:[Mg]:[Ca] etc.
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post May 28, 2011, 08:19 AM
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Good review: http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/magnesium/

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QUOTE(Flex @ May 28, 2011, 09:13 AM) *

All ATP is co-ordinated to Mg2+. All of those negative charges on the phosphates need to be balanced somehow. Not a good idea to mega load any one mineral, as you will likely effect alternate mineral levels. There is a good deal of orthomolecular psychiatry work out there on mineral balances and cognition. Mg has many roles in the body. Blood concentrations remain virtually constant, thus it is not a good idea to mega load. Most Mg is actually found in bone, and is vital to forming cross linkages and assimilating calcium.

You cannot simply look at [Mg]. You have to look at ratios of all minerals which act in concert. i.e. [Cu]:[Zn], [Zn]:[Mg]:[Ca] etc.



Definitely - I do challenge the argument of megadosing, RDA is a vaguery and people have remained highly healthy at moderate overdosing. The regulatories scare monger everyone about toxicity and then cite studies where they feed so much of a substance to the rats they choked on it.
At my age RDA for Mg is about 500mg a day.
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Not a matter of toxicity, it is a matter of causing imbalances in other minerals.
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