The controversy is that Baba told that He will live up to 96 years, but the death is preponed by about ten years Options

[Joesus]

When we laugh, Joesus, we are in a certain state of consciousness, the same as when we cry...
The whole universe is the field of energy-consciousness.

The universe is a reflection of consciousness and yes when you laugh you are in a subjective and objective state of consciousness. Yet laughter is not a state of consciousness

The whole teaching of Buddha is about the cause of suffering and the end of suffering = Dukkha Nirodha Sacca

I like to look at Buddha's teaching as a teaching of Self Mastery and how consciousness effects creation.

Demi-God writes about the Lila(Play-Enjoyment) of the Creator~~~

It is in reference to the indifference to suffering and happiness. Bliss being a detachment from the physical senses and an immersion into the subtle senses as the creator. The absolute consciousness does not suffer. The ego in identification with suffering experiences suffering from the attachment to temporary and mortal experiences. Yet when one arises in awareness to the absolute Self, there one finds union with everything and perfection in cause and effect as the manifestation of desire/thought.
When God plays it is not the same as a child playing with mudpies, but in order to create a sense of comparison the word Lila is used to describe "divine play" or the nature of consciousness absolute. It does not create out of any kind of need, either for entertainment or any other reason. God having a need to be entertained is an idea to reduce God into human egoic terms so the simple mind can begin to grasp something much larger yet approach it from the limitations of human perspectives or the identity and individuality of human ego.

"In this body there is another, a transcendental enjoyer, who is the Lord, and who is known as the Supersoul.
This Supersoul is the source of light . He is knowledge, He is the object of knowledge, and He is the goal of knowledge.
He is situated in everyone´s heart. He is Purusa/The Enjoyer.

The enjoyer could be called a lover, but then you might want to believe Purusha makes love to his creation.

Arjuna said: "O my dear Krsna, I wish to know about prakrti/Nature, purusa/The Enjoyer, and the field and the knower of the field."
Then the Lord said: "This body is called the field, and one who knows this body is called the knower of the field."

Bhagavad Gita, chapter 13 "Nature, the Enjoyer, and Consciousness"

The knower and the known evolves within the process of knowing. So does the awareness of consciousness as one immerses themselves in the absolute. That is quite a different matter than that of one standing outside trying to point at it and making assumptions about the absolute infinite one and reducing it into terms that suit ones beliefs and ideals.

Heard of the Laughing Buddha, Joesus ?

Of course, but I see you still do not quite have a grasp of what the icon points toward. Laughter in and of itself is not a state of consciousness. It is a reflection of egoic enjoyment as well as the detachment from ego and the outward driven senses in enjoyment.

[Kairos]

When we laugh, Joesus, we are in a certain state of consciousness, the same as when we cry...
The whole universe is the field of energy-consciousness.

The universe is a reflection of consciousness and yes when you laugh you are in a subjective and objective state of consciousness. Yet laughter is not a state of consciousness

The whole teaching of Buddha is about the cause of suffering and the end of suffering = Dukkha Nirodha Sacca

I like to look at Buddha's teaching as a teaching of Self Mastery and how consciousness effects creation.

Demi-God writes about the Lila(Play-Enjoyment) of the Creator~~~

It is in reference to the indifference to suffering and happiness. Bliss being a detachment from the physical senses and an immersion into the subtle senses as the creator. The absolute consciousness does not suffer. The ego in identification with suffering experiences suffering from the attachment to temporary and mortal experiences. Yet when one arises in awareness to the absolute Self, there one finds union with everything and perfection in cause and effect as the manifestation of desire/thought.
When God plays it is not the same as a child playing with mudpies, but in order to create a sense of comparison the word Lila is used to describe "divine play" or the nature of consciousness absolute. It does not create out of any kind of need, either for entertainment or any other reason. God having a need to be entertained is an idea to reduce God into human egoic terms so the simple mind can begin to grasp something much larger yet approach it from the limitations of human perspectives or the identity and individuality of human ego.

"In this body there is another, a transcendental enjoyer, who is the Lord, and who is known as the Supersoul.
This Supersoul is the source of light . He is knowledge, He is the object of knowledge, and He is the goal of knowledge.
He is situated in everyone´s heart. He is Purusa/The Enjoyer.

The enjoyer could be called a lover, but then you might want to believe Purusha makes love to his creation.

Arjuna said: "O my dear Krsna, I wish to know about prakrti/Nature, purusa/The Enjoyer, and the field and the knower of the field."
Then the Lord said: "This body is called the field, and one who knows this body is called the knower of the field."

Bhagavad Gita, chapter 13 "Nature, the Enjoyer, and Consciousness"

The knower and the known evolves within the process of knowing. So does the awareness of consciousness as one immerses themselves in the absolute. That is quite a different matter than that of one standing outside trying to point at it and making assumptions about the absolute infinite one and reducing it into terms that suit ones beliefs and ideals.

Heard of the Laughing Buddha, Joesus ?

Of course, but I see you still do not quite have a grasp of what the icon points toward. Laughter in and of itself is not a state of consciousness. It is a reflection of egoic enjoyment as well as the detachment from ego and the outward driven senses in enjoyment.

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Certainly, Jesus Christ on the cross -- the Symbol of Christianity -- is very sad, Joesus.
How can you laugh when you see Christ on the cross ?
Christianity, with its image of Christ on the cross... Buddhism, with the image of a supremely blissful Buddha... Hinduism, with its dancing Shiva... Bonpo, with its shamanic ecstasy...
Why do Christians not have a dancing or laughing Christ, Joesus ?

Kairos

[Do not use emotional slogans in]

Certainly, Jesus Christ on the cross -- the Symbol of Christianity -- is very sad, Joesus.
How can you laugh when you see Christ on the cross ?
Christianity, with its image of Christ on the cross... Buddhism, with the image of a supremely blissful Buddha... Hinduism, with its dancing Shiva... Bonpo, with its shamanic ecstasy...
Why do Christians not have a dancing or laughing Christ, Joesus ?

Kairos

Do not use emotional slogans in spiritual path….
An atheist should not become a theist just for food, money, the job offered by you or the professional education offered by you to get a job. Such conversion is not real and permanent. Do not kindle emotions by showing or explaining the story of the crucifixion of Jesus. Do not kindle the attraction towards the physical appearance by showing the beautiful pictures of Krishna etc. Such means used for conversion are not real and permanent. The conversion of mind or heart is not real and eternal. Do not attract a person in problems by offering solutions through prayers and songs or by using the super powers of God for solutions. The faith developed by such ways will not stand forever because God will not always answer the prayers, songs and crying with tears.

People become addicted to such ways. The child will weep every time for a chocolate, since it is habituated to that path. The child intensifies the process of weeping if the chocolate is delayed! Initially the child is attracted by chocolates to go to the school for some days. The child has become young person but did not cross the first standard of the school, because the child concentrated only on the art of weeping to get the chocolates. The person became a postgraduate or even a Ph.D. degree holder in the course of begging and weeping for chocolates. The person became an exceptional scholar and developed several talents in praising the Lord, crying for the Lord, singing and composing music on the Lord, doing meditation and concentration on the Lord with his mind, chanting the Lord’s name millions of times, writing the name of Lord millions of times, chanting some letters (Beejaksharas or mantras), drawing some design or diagrams on metallic plates (Yantras), doing worship following certain special ways of [occult] technology (Tantras) and so on. These discoveries and developments are tremendous and as many as the developments in science and technology! Ofcourse, all these are good psychological ways of solving or treating certain psychological problems in patients with fixed notions to give mental relief from stress and gain confidence. All these ways are good, if the person is free from aspiration of any fruit from God in return [for such actions]. Such love is real. But the real love is expressed in terms of the sacrifice of work and the sacrifice of the fruit of work as seen in the case of your love for your children. If such practical expression exists, all the above theoretical expression of love through words and mind can be associated as a plate of meals is associated with a glass of drinking water.

Therefore in propagating the divine path, you should appeal to people only through knowledge, logical analysis and a systematic scientific approach. Avoid all the above means, which are theoretical and political ways of exploitation of one’s weakness. God is certainly above science and logic, because He is beyond creation and nature. But God always follows the ways of nature, which are logical and scientific, following the path of justice. In a rare and exceptional case, He uses His superpower, which is also not against justice. He suffers for your sin and thus the justice of the wheel of deeds is always upheld by Him even in the exceptional case of the use of His superpower.

[Joesus]

Certainly, Jesus Christ on the cross -- the Symbol of Christianity -- is very sad, Joesus.

Certainly, Christianity has distorted the teachings and symbolism of sacrificing the illusions of the temporal for the reality of immortality. The church created an icon that represents the suffering of Christ and made him a martyr. This travesty was a manipulative illusion to convince the populace that their suffering would bring them freedom.

People bought into it and the Christian religion allowed this icon to deflect the mind from the teachings of Jesus and toward the control of the church over the people.

In reality Jesus' sacrifice of the body upon the cross represents mastery of the mind over the body in the following resurrection. The truth beyond the delusional painting of facts created by the Church and religion is an enactment of Consciousness or Christed Consciousness which exists as the embodiment of the Son of God in all individuals as exemplified by Jesus' life and resurrection.

How can you laugh when you see Christ on the cross ?

Every time I think of how delusional man can become or how he can ascend his delusions, I smile at the perfection of the created Universe.

Christianity, with its image of Christ on the cross... Buddhism, with the image of a supremely blissful Buddha... Hinduism, with its dancing Shiva... Bonpo, with its shamanic ecstasy...
Why do Christians not have a dancing or laughing Christ, Joesus ?

Kairos

Why aren't the Buddhist monks who were thrown out of China and had experienced the murder of their fellow monks not laughing but instead taking political refuge and petitioning the world for change? Why are they sending a political message rather than promoting laughter by sitting around having a good belly laugh like the image of the laughing Buddha?

It would seem rather obvious that the human condition projects upon the masters who would teach the same reality. Christ and Buddha are symbolic of the same consciousness. Jesus represented Christ Consciousness and Siddharta the Buddhi or the eternal free conscious soul or Son of God within the deluded imaginings of the human ego.
Both taught the same thing in different lifetimes thru different personalities and in similar words that would meet the times of their incarnations.

Ego took both Masters and their teachings and created religion. Granted..The eastern peoples were not as dark as the western peoples when religion was being developed but lets not create an image of reality thru the twisted icons created by those who have not themselves lived the same state of consciousness as their original teacher.

You seem pretty stuck on the images, rather than the the actual state of being that is free from the images.

I used to like to exemplify the idea that there is difference in those who read books and study topics like medicine or enlightenment.

The ones who have achieved mastery thru study and practice often reveal themselves in their association to their practice. They walk the talk where as someone who just reads about these things talks a lot of talk.
When put into a room together one who has actually practiced surgery will easily recognize the ignorance of one who speaks of surgery but has no practical time spent within an operating room with any practical experience in surgery.

There is a saying. Consciousness recognizes consciousness.

There is more to it (conscious liberation) than throwing out definitions to symbols at the surface level of the mind.

[Kairos]

Certainly, Jesus Christ on the cross -- the Symbol of Christianity -- is very sad, Joesus.

Certainly, Christianity has distorted the teachings and symbolism of sacrificing the illusions of the temporal for the reality of immortality. The church created an icon that represents the suffering of Christ and made him a martyr. This travesty was a manipulative illusion to convince the populace that their suffering would bring them freedom.

People bought into it and the Christian religion allowed this icon to deflect the mind from the teachings of Jesus and toward the control of the church over the people.

In reality Jesus' sacrifice of the body upon the cross represents mastery of the mind over the body in the following resurrection. The truth beyond the delusional painting of facts created by the Church and religion is an enactment of Consciousness or Christed Consciousness which exists as the embodiment of the Son of God in all individuals as exemplified by Jesus' life and resurrection.

How can you laugh when you see Christ on the cross ?

Every time I think of how delusional man can become or how he can ascend his delusions, I smile at the perfection of the created Universe.

Christianity, with its image of Christ on the cross... Buddhism, with the image of a supremely blissful Buddha... Hinduism, with its dancing Shiva... Bonpo, with its shamanic ecstasy...
Why do Christians not have a dancing or laughing Christ, Joesus ?

Kairos

Why aren't the Buddhist monks who were thrown out of China and had experienced the murder of their fellow monks not laughing but instead taking political refuge and petitioning the world for change? Why are they sending a political message rather than promoting laughter by sitting around having a good belly laugh like the image of the laughing Buddha?

It would seem rather obvious that the human condition projects upon the masters who would teach the same reality. Christ and Buddha are symbolic of the same consciousness. Jesus represented Christ Consciousness and Siddharta the Buddhi or the eternal free conscious soul or Son of God within the deluded imaginings of the human ego.
Both taught the same thing in different lifetimes thru different personalities and in similar words that would meet the times of their incarnations.

Ego took both Masters and their teachings and created religion. Granted..The eastern peoples were not as dark as the western peoples when religion was being developed but lets not create an image of reality thru the twisted icons created by those who have not themselves lived the same state of consciousness as their original teacher.

You seem pretty stuck on the images, rather than the the actual state of being that is free from the images.

I used to like to exemplify the idea that there is difference in those who read books and study topics like medicine or enlightenment.

The ones who have achieved mastery thru study and practice often reveal themselves in their association to their practice. They walk the talk where as someone who just reads about these things talks a lot of talk.
When put into a room together one who has actually practiced surgery will easily recognize the ignorance of one who speaks of surgery but has no practical time spent within an operating room with any practical experience in surgery.

There is a saying. Consciousness recognizes consciousness.

There is more to it (conscious liberation) than throwing out definitions to symbols at the surface level of the mind.

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Kairos

When religion, spirituality is turned into politics and manipulation, it is turned into war.
Christianity versus Islam, Islam versus Hinduism, Judaism versus Islam...
The so-called "HOLY" wars have been going on for centuries.
Buddhism was the most peaceful and tolerant religion, but even Buddhism has turned militant.
Henry Miller was right when he said that "Man is living on the periphery, whirling like a whirligig, going faster and faster, blinder and blinder.
It is not only the dictators who are possessed, but the whole world of men everywhere." Henry Miller, "The Cosmological Eye"