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post Oct 29, 2010, 01:02 PM
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Very similar to the paradox; however, the branching of the paradox indicates time, which I do not necessarily agree with, unless you define time as some sort of variable of relative positions.

Oh and as a side note, I recommend never taking upper div. quantum mechanics. The class sucks due to the fact that it is just a bunch of shitty math. It is much more interesting to only consider the implications.

BTW I personally believe that all of the implications of quantum mechanics have already been described some thousands of years ago in many different forms. Zeno's paradox breaks down to the fact that there is no such thing as an instantaneous rate of change (which to me implies that all rates are a construct of our perception, not reality, albeit a practical construct). This implies that you can either know the position exactly but not the momentum, or the momentum, but not the position. Plato's idea of the Realm of the Form, in which essence (potential) exists a priori to our actualization of it. In other words, there exists an infinite number of possible realities, but one only comes into the human realm through consciousness. The Tao states that the Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao, or rather that there is an essence which exists, and by observing the essence, you change the outcome.

In my opinion, all of quantum mechanics is simply rehashing things which have already been observed and know for thousands of years. The only difference, is that asshole Aristotle came along, and created "rules" of logic, and caused all of society to shift the focus from simple spiritual observation of the essence of existence, to quantitatively analyzing and putting names on things which cannot be named--like time.

Kaloa: Indeed. There is nothing wrong with passing a nice cognitive excrement now and then. After all that is precisely what a thought is. A stimuli is ingested, digested, and shit out in the form of an idea.
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QUOTE(Flex @ Oct 29, 2010, 01:02 PM) *

In my opinion, all of quantum mechanics is simply rehashing things which have already been observed and know for thousands of years. The only difference, is that asshole Aristotle came along, and created "rules" of logic, and caused all of society to shift the focus from simple spiritual observation of the essence of existence, to quantitatively analyzing and putting names on things which cannot be named--like time.

I think I know what you're talking about this time...

Ever since I found out that quantum physics is based off of "isolated systems", which do not exist in nature; I have had less faith in it's ability to do anything for the understanding of reality, aside from what seems to be a mere coppout for what is not understood. No systems seem to be isolated in nature. Everything is interrelated. Quantum physics is an illusion based off of faulty reasoning.
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Hey Hey   Why the Singularity isn't going to happen   Oct 16, 2010, 04:52 AM
Kaloa   Exerpts from the above article: "If history,...   Oct 16, 2010, 10:32 AM
Kaloa   Why...?...:)   Oct 16, 2010, 11:08 AM
Kaloa   I may have been out of my element there. I appolog...   Oct 18, 2010, 08:37 PM
Kaloa   Keeping my eyes on heaven anyways...:)   Oct 19, 2010, 04:33 PM
Rick   Avoid wishful thinking. It's a distraction fro...   Oct 20, 2010, 07:18 AM
Kaloa   Avoid wishful thinking. It's a distraction fr...   Oct 20, 2010, 02:53 PM
Jakare   Maybe the Singularity is not meant to happen natur...   Oct 21, 2010, 07:55 PM
lucid_dream   Maybe the Singularity is not meant to happen natu...   Oct 22, 2010, 02:14 AM
Kaloa   humans are a part of nature and obey nature's...   Oct 22, 2010, 08:57 AM
Jakare   Maybe the Singularity is not meant to happen nat...   Oct 22, 2010, 04:08 PM
Rick   Then the term "unnatural" has no use.   Oct 22, 2010, 11:41 AM
Hey Hey   Then the term "unnatural" has no use. E...   Oct 22, 2010, 01:26 PM
lucid_dream   escaping our current limitations does not imply es...   Oct 22, 2010, 04:51 PM
Hey Hey   escaping our current limitations does not imply e...   Oct 22, 2010, 07:56 PM
Kaloa   l_d don't you think that some of description ...   Oct 26, 2010, 09:23 AM
GodConsciousness   While I believe that the Universe is ultimately On...   Oct 23, 2010, 05:28 AM
Hey Hey   While I believe that the Universe is ultimately O...   Oct 23, 2010, 08:28 AM
GodConsciousness   It will depend largely on how humans want to evolv...   Oct 23, 2010, 02:21 PM
Rick   Certainly genetic engineering (direct manipulation...   Oct 25, 2010, 03:10 PM
code buttons   Certainly genetic engineering (direct manipulatio...   Oct 26, 2010, 12:37 PM
Rick   Lower gravity should result in taller people, mayb...   Oct 26, 2010, 01:21 PM
Flex   Transfatty-Earthlings will never run 30 MPH regard...   Oct 26, 2010, 02:51 PM
code buttons   Every level of existence has its own form of cons...   Oct 26, 2010, 05:48 PM
Kaloa   I have a feeling that when we die, we return to t...   Oct 27, 2010, 09:16 PM
Flex   I guess what I am trying to say is that life and d...   Oct 27, 2010, 09:52 PM
old6598   I guess what I am trying to say is that life and ...   Oct 28, 2010, 05:17 AM
Kaloa   I find it amusing how you tend to get to my same ...   Oct 28, 2010, 09:02 AM
code buttons   If I may offer some advice on helping people ...   Oct 28, 2010, 09:40 AM
Kaloa   If I may offer some advice on helping people ...   Oct 28, 2010, 10:02 AM
Kaloa   I guess what I am trying to say is that life and ...   Oct 28, 2010, 09:32 AM
code buttons   I admit to not understanding fully, such as your...   Oct 29, 2010, 11:12 AM
Kaloa   I admit to not understanding fully, such as you...   Oct 30, 2010, 06:37 AM
Flex   Find your self a chem lab and breath in way too ma...   Oct 28, 2010, 05:22 PM
Flex   Oh and furthermore, I had a thought today about th...   Oct 28, 2010, 05:41 PM
Kaloa   Oh and furthermore, I had a thought today about t...   Oct 29, 2010, 08:38 AM
Flex   Very similar to the paradox; however, the branchin...   Oct 29, 2010, 01:02 PM
Kaloa   In my opinion, all of quantum mechanics is simply...   Oct 30, 2010, 06:28 AM
Kaloa   Kaloa: Indeed. There is nothing wrong with passin...   Oct 30, 2010, 06:37 AM
Flex   Kaloa: Indeed. There is nothing wrong with passi...   Oct 30, 2010, 09:36 AM
Kaloa   [quote name='Kaloa' post='112113' date='Oct 30, 2...   Oct 30, 2010, 08:39 PM
Kaloa   I see. Somewhat... So then, this is to do with the...   Oct 30, 2010, 06:21 AM
Trip like I do   you asked a lot of questions   Oct 30, 2010, 08:55 PM
Kaloa   you asked a lot of questions Quite! I'm ...   Oct 31, 2010, 06:23 PM
Trip like I do   you asked a lot of questions Quite! I'm...   Nov 04, 2010, 06:15 PM
Kaloa   [quote name='Kaloa' post='112130' date='Oct 31, 2...   Nov 04, 2010, 08:47 PM
Trip like I do   [quote name='Kaloa' post='112130' date='Oct 31, ...   Nov 05, 2010, 05:12 PM
Kaloa   to be honest.... I would believe that dense peopl...   Nov 04, 2010, 08:53 PM
Flex   The right questions lead to the right answers. U...   Nov 01, 2010, 08:53 AM
Trip like I do   The right questions lead to the right answers. ...   Nov 01, 2010, 04:19 PM
Kaloa   The right questions lead to the right answers. ...   Nov 02, 2010, 08:14 AM
Trip like I do   [quote name='Trip like I do' post='112144' date='...   Nov 02, 2010, 03:03 PM
Kaloa   [quote name='Trip like I do' post='112144' date=...   Nov 04, 2010, 01:07 PM
Trip like I do   [quote name='Trip like I do' post='112144' date='...   Nov 03, 2010, 06:00 PM
Kaloa   [quote name='Trip like I do' post='112144' date=...   Nov 04, 2010, 01:12 PM
Kaloa   I'll make a personal effort to ask better ques...   Nov 04, 2010, 01:30 PM
Trip like I do   .... I'll make a personal effort to ask bette...   Nov 04, 2010, 05:19 PM
Kaloa   .... I'll make a personal effort to ask bett...   Nov 04, 2010, 08:46 PM
Kaloa   those with the answers seldom ask the questions ...   Nov 04, 2010, 08:51 PM
Trip like I do   those with the answers seldom ask the questions ...   Nov 05, 2010, 05:25 PM
Kaloa   [quote name='Kaloa' post='112198' date='Nov 05, 2...   Nov 05, 2010, 09:03 PM
Kaloa   trust me honey.... there is nothing weak about me...   Nov 04, 2010, 02:49 PM
Flex   Damn Trip, your new "Supreme God" name s...   Nov 03, 2010, 01:09 PM
Trip like I do   Damn Trip, your new "Supreme God" name ...   Nov 03, 2010, 05:58 PM
Jakare   It´s so easy to blame the others...Will you avoid ...   Nov 03, 2010, 08:51 PM
Flex   Hey, I never said the dark side was a bad thing. I...   Nov 03, 2010, 08:45 PM
Kaloa   Singularity...?   Nov 04, 2010, 09:00 PM
Trip like I do   Singularity...? maybe.... !   Nov 05, 2010, 05:20 PM
Kaloa   I now see that was only 9, and you requested 10......   Nov 05, 2010, 03:51 AM
Trip like I do   I now see that was only 9, and you requested 10.....   Nov 05, 2010, 05:24 PM
Trip like I do   much better.... but still too many questions, ques...   Nov 05, 2010, 08:27 AM
Kaloa   much better.... but still too many questions, que...   Nov 05, 2010, 03:47 PM
Trip like I do   much better.... but still too many questions, qu...   Nov 05, 2010, 05:10 PM
Hey Hey   LMAO!   Nov 05, 2010, 04:17 PM
Trip like I do   http://www.globalbeauties.com/usa/2009/blog/wp-con...   Nov 05, 2010, 05:59 PM
Trip like I do   http://www.globalbeauties.com/usa/2009/blog/wp-co...   Nov 05, 2010, 06:57 PM
Kaloa   [quote name='Trip like I do' post='112233' date='...   Nov 05, 2010, 09:04 PM
Trip like I do   Welcome to Fun Facts About the 50 States. This we...   Nov 05, 2010, 06:17 PM
Hey Hey   Welcome to Fun Facts About the 50 States.Stick to...   Nov 05, 2010, 06:32 PM
Trip like I do   Welcome to Fun Facts About the 50 States.Stick t...   Nov 05, 2010, 06:35 PM
Trip like I do   Welcome to Fun Facts About the 50 States.Stick t...   Nov 05, 2010, 06:56 PM
Kaloa   Welcome to Fun Facts About the 50 States.Stick t...   Nov 05, 2010, 09:10 PM
Kaloa   Within the scopes of this topic; I think that it ...   Nov 07, 2010, 07:18 AM
Kaloa   Oh man!   Nov 05, 2010, 08:44 PM
Flex   Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the thr...   Nov 06, 2010, 07:10 PM
Kaloa   Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the th...   Nov 07, 2010, 07:20 AM
Trip like I do   Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the th...   Nov 07, 2010, 10:31 AM
Trip like I do   I'd honestly be interested in hearing you all ...   Nov 07, 2010, 08:51 AM
Kaloa   Disolving the distorted boundaries between mind an...   Nov 07, 2010, 03:05 PM
Trip like I do   [color=#FF0000]distorted boundaries between mind ...   Nov 07, 2010, 07:05 PM
Kaloa   [quote name='Kaloa' post='112287' date='Nov 07, 2...   Nov 08, 2010, 02:49 AM
Trip like I do   [quote name='Trip like I do' post='112292' date='...   Nov 08, 2010, 03:26 PM
Flex   Ego-death. Simple as that :)   Nov 07, 2010, 07:21 PM
Trip like I do   Ego-death. Simple as that :) a collective ego de...   Nov 07, 2010, 07:23 PM
Phi   Ego-death. Simple as that :) a collective ego d...   Nov 10, 2010, 01:37 AM
Trip like I do   [quote name='Trip like I do' post='112295' date='...   Nov 12, 2010, 03:07 PM
Flex   Maybe, but that is a lot to hope for right away. I...   Nov 07, 2010, 07:31 PM
Trip like I do   Maybe, but that is a lot to hope for right away. ...   Nov 08, 2010, 03:29 PM
old6598   In reference to the Instant Singularity thread tha...   Nov 09, 2010, 01:38 AM
Kaloa   All contradictions are welcome, in fact only cont...   Nov 09, 2010, 04:50 PM
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