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post Oct 04, 2010, 11:07 AM
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Alright, well I ordered bulk Pyritinol from CH and got it in today.
I was excited to try it out so I measured out 400mg and downed it.

Now, I found something stating that pyritinol is supposed to taste nasty and be water soluble.
Surprisingly, the bulk powder I got fit neither of these criteria. It was tasteless, and highly hydrophobic.

My first thought was, OH SHIT what if it's huperzine a!? I called them and they assured me it wouldn't be. But they couldn't confirm for me that it was pyritinol. All he could say was that "it is what it is...we just got this new shipment in...it is what it is..."

Long story short I just want to know if cerebral health sells anything that is a hydrophobic, tasteless, off-white powder that could harm me in the dosage of 400mg?

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post Feb 22, 2012, 01:57 PM
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Well it would be great if you could and want to do it. I'm very curious about the results.

Unfortunately, I have only basic knowledge about (bio)chemistry, neither do I have the equipment to do these kind of tests (note to self: probably a good idea to work on that when experimenting with nootropics)

Pretty much the only thing I could test it in was the Dutch household article "Wasbenzine" (I'm not sure whether that's non-polar or polar-aprotic, I only know it's a mix of different sized alkanes). It got rather turbid when I mixed this "Pyritinol" in it, so it didn't seem very soluble. Maybe I've saturated it too much (eventhough I've put only about 200mg in a full glass of it), but by short-term observation (lumps persistently falling to the bottom, refusing to "solve" without crushing them) I'd say it's not soluble in that either, but I could be wrong. Chemistry class was a long time ago smile.gif

I get the same observations when I mix it with oil (don't know if that's useful information).

As for the purity, it says 99% on the label, but then again, it also says Pyritinol on the label, which it's unlikely that it is. I have not made any modifications to it whatsoever (I wouldn't even know how to crystallize it, I only know how to do that to hydrophilic substances)

About sending you some of it, I've never actually sent substrances through mail, especially not overseas. You think it's possible to send you a portion from The Netherlands to Canada? If so, is there anything special that comes to it?

Thanks alot by the way for all your help and information on the subject. I only just noticed you were already involved in this thread two years ago, haha

EDIT: About the claim that it's rice-based, do you happen to know anything about that? Does it sound plausible to you whatsoever? I couldn't find any search results with rice-based and pyritinol together, but maybe I'm just searching the wrong way, you never know..
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kagaos   Identify Mystery Powder   Oct 04, 2010, 11:07 AM
kagaos   Well I didn't die, so I guess what ever it was...   Oct 04, 2010, 12:26 PM
Phi   the ch gods answer those who are patient   Oct 04, 2010, 02:52 PM
kagaos   Nothing against CH, as I have little experience wi...   Oct 04, 2010, 07:12 PM
Phi   disclaimer - I'm a phil that thinks ch will re...   Oct 05, 2010, 02:24 AM
GodConsciousness   No hard feelings whatsoever. We pride ourselves o...   Oct 05, 2010, 04:16 AM
Hey Hey   If at any time there is any doubt on product purit...   Oct 05, 2010, 09:45 AM
kagaos   Haha sorry Phi...I got confused. Thanks for cleari...   Oct 05, 2010, 05:03 AM
GodConsciousness   Haha sorry Phi...I got confused. Thanks for clear...   Oct 05, 2010, 05:48 AM
kagaos   I greatly appreciate the feedback and in no way ...   Oct 05, 2010, 07:29 AM
Phi   ouch   Oct 05, 2010, 10:40 AM
chrono   Hope it works out all right. A few thoughts: Are ...   Oct 05, 2010, 01:58 PM
Flex   Just looking at the structure, I would estimate th...   Oct 05, 2010, 02:22 PM
Hey Hey   Just looking at the structure, I would estimate th...   Oct 05, 2010, 02:27 PM
Flex   There are 6 hydrogen bond receptors, and 4 H bond ...   Oct 05, 2010, 05:03 PM
Hey Hey   There are 6 hydrogen bond receptors, and 4 H bond...   Oct 05, 2010, 05:48 PM
kagaos   There are 6 hydrogen bond receptors, and 4 H bon...   Oct 06, 2010, 05:36 AM
chrono   So the question is no longer, "Is this compou...   Oct 06, 2010, 08:55 AM
Flex   My only guess would be some kind of acid catalyzed...   Oct 06, 2010, 07:56 AM
kagaos   My only guess would be some kind of acid catalyze...   Oct 06, 2010, 08:22 AM
Flex   Well this is basically what you would really have ...   Oct 06, 2010, 08:38 AM
kagaos   Well this is basically what you would really have...   Oct 06, 2010, 09:31 AM
Flex   My bad. I thought those were benzene rings. It sho...   Oct 06, 2010, 04:23 PM
Hey Hey   This is how I think P ought be taken: http://www....   Oct 06, 2010, 06:08 PM
kagaos   This is how I think P ought be taken: http://www...   Oct 06, 2010, 07:33 PM
GodConsciousness   I received another confirmation from manufacturing...   Oct 07, 2010, 07:39 AM
kagaos   I received another confirmation from manufacturin...   Oct 07, 2010, 12:30 PM
Hey Hey   I received another confirmation from manufacturi...   Oct 07, 2010, 04:11 PM
chrono   What about your credentials? (This is the internet...   Oct 07, 2010, 05:39 PM
Flex   I received another confirmation from manufacturin...   Oct 07, 2010, 05:21 PM
Hey Hey   I received another confirmation from manufacturing...   Oct 07, 2010, 08:54 PM
chrono   Do you know kagos personally? Credentials relate t...   Oct 07, 2010, 09:47 PM
GodConsciousness   While I don't know kagos personally, I don...   Oct 07, 2010, 10:40 PM
Flex   log S0 = 0.52 –1.00R2+0.77πH+2.17∑...   Oct 11, 2010, 01:30 PM
kagaos   While I don't know kagos personally, I don...   Oct 12, 2010, 06:13 PM
GodConsciousness   Got the COA and everything seems to be looking fin...   Oct 12, 2010, 11:33 PM
kagaos   Got the COA and everything seems to be looking fi...   Oct 14, 2010, 09:36 AM
Flex   I decided to run IRs on some of the stuff I had ly...   Oct 14, 2010, 10:36 AM
Kleuze   Well that's strange. I have the same situatio...   Feb 22, 2012, 06:55 AM
Flex   If you want to try to characterize it, I could tak...   Feb 22, 2012, 07:48 AM
Kleuze   You mean you want to try the batch that I received...   Feb 22, 2012, 07:52 AM
Flex   I am down to try what I can if you like. I would o...   Feb 22, 2012, 10:44 AM
Kleuze   Well it would be great if you could and want to do...   Feb 22, 2012, 01:57 PM
Flex   Hmm well that sounds quite interesting. Neither wa...   Feb 22, 2012, 03:04 PM
Kleuze   I don't know, I simply ordered "Bulk Pyri...   Feb 23, 2012, 06:41 AM
Flex   Check your inbox :)   Feb 23, 2012, 07:23 AM
Flex   Oh and one more thing, here is some useful solubil...   Feb 23, 2012, 09:18 AM
LeeCrostM.D.   Well that's strange. I have the same situati...   Jul 02, 2012, 05:30 AM


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