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post Feb 08, 2010, 02:46 PM
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My flying car is getting closer to reality:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/16/ur..._test_imminent/

Before consumers can use them, flying cars will need artificial brains. Otherwise the meat brained idiots will have them falling out of the sky.
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post Feb 08, 2010, 02:58 PM
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I'd like to see some video on that!



looks familiar

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post Feb 10, 2010, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(Trip like I do @ Feb 08, 2010, 02:58 PM) *

I'd like to see some video on that!

Just for the asking!
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post Feb 11, 2010, 06:09 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElS9BKSsezw&feature=related
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post Feb 11, 2010, 08:28 PM
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well, that's interesting.... but what do you suppose that crane in the background was for?
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post Feb 12, 2010, 06:55 AM
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well, that's interesting.... but what do you suppose that crane in the background was for?

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! He got you there!
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post Feb 12, 2010, 11:49 AM
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It's a slack safety tether for initial flight tests. As I said, it's not yet ready for prime time because the AI computers aren't ready yet. Human pilots will be falling out of the sky. Need AI to make it practical.
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post Feb 12, 2010, 12:22 PM
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I'd have reservations about engine failure. If one or more engines sucked up a bird in flight I'd want more than an airbag to cushion the impact.
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post Feb 12, 2010, 02:09 PM
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The flying car I have in mind uses two internally mounted gas turbofans, either of which can keep the car up in an emergency. The air intake will be screened to prevent ingestion of large objects. The AI will prevent the car from taking off in case of a failure of a detailed pre-flight self-check. AI controlled car flight will be safer than idiot-controlled ground car travel.
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post Feb 12, 2010, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Feb 12, 2010, 02:49 PM) *

It's a slack safety tether for initial flight tests. As I said, it's not yet ready for prime time because the AI computers aren't ready yet. Human pilots will be falling out of the sky. Need AI to make it practical.

well.... where's the fun in that? What's the use if it is not meant to be controlled by humans?
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post Feb 12, 2010, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Feb 12, 2010, 05:09 PM) *

The flying car I have in mind uses two internally mounted gas turbofans, either of which can keep the car up in an emergency. The air intake will be screened to prevent ingestion of large objects. The AI will prevent the car from taking off in case of a failure of a detailed pre-flight self-check. AI controlled car flight will be safer than idiot-controlled ground car travel.

ahhh.... fantastic, a future still reliant on fossil fuels!
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post Feb 12, 2010, 10:44 PM
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No, you will have your own spigot for liquid hydrogen right at your house, the energy to split water molecules from photovoltaic solar panels and a windmill on your roof. Come on, Trip, have some imagination for goodness's sake.
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post Feb 12, 2010, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Feb 12, 2010, 10:44 PM) *

No, you will have your own spigot for liquid hydrogen right at your house, the energy to split water molecules from photovoltaic solar panels and a windmill on your roof. Come on, Trip, have some imagination for goodness's sake.

How long, then, till we can harness the power in magnetic force! I want to be able to park my car in mid-air!
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post Feb 12, 2010, 11:03 PM
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ha.... that's one thing I definitely am not lacking in is imagination! I'd just rather imagining myself flying this contraption some day and not being taxied around by some robotically controlled apparatus!

someone has to be a cynic here.... and yes, I am skeptical of such an AI controlled device ever hovering in a sky near you!
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post Feb 17, 2010, 07:26 AM
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Quote, "It’s unlikely that we will see mass marketed flying cars with highways-in-the-sky by 2015 as imagined in BTTFII. But there are some transitional “aircraft” with folding wings and even the capability of vertical takeoff that are starting to look suspiciously like… well, flying cars."

http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/toys-too...nd-your-jetpack
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post Feb 17, 2010, 10:05 AM
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It doesnt really depend on the technology, which is already there, it depends on the quality of the entrepreneur to bring it into reality. Look at Richard Branson, he is commercializing space flight, many others have tried, no one has done nearly as well.

He didnt start with more money (I know hes rich but referring to the amount put into the project) hes just a better businessman.
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post Feb 17, 2010, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(maximus242 @ Feb 17, 2010, 06:05 PM) *

It doesnt really depend on the technology, which is already there, it depends on the quality of the entrepreneur to bring it into reality. Look at Richard Branson, he is commercializing space flight, many others have tried, no one has done nearly as well.

He didnt start with more money (I know hes rich but referring to the amount put into the project) hes just a better businessman.
But Rick's point is the killer. It's the safety aspect. So as beautiful as that flying car looks they aren't going to give the general population the licences to fly them. I suppose the few well off, and well qualified pilots might get to use them. After all the skies already fill up with private planes and helicopters.
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post Feb 17, 2010, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Feb 17, 2010, 10:38 AM) *

QUOTE(maximus242 @ Feb 17, 2010, 06:05 PM) *

It doesnt really depend on the technology, which is already there, it depends on the quality of the entrepreneur to bring it into reality. Look at Richard Branson, he is commercializing space flight, many others have tried, no one has done nearly as well.

He didnt start with more money (I know hes rich but referring to the amount put into the project) hes just a better businessman.
But Rick's point is the killer. It's the safety aspect. So as beautiful as that flying car looks they aren't going to give the general population the licences to fly them. I suppose the few well off, and well qualified pilots might get to use them. After all the skies already fill up with private planes and helicopters.

They will exist, eventually. When they find a way to direct traffic through some kind of invisible magnetic chute system, the flying car industry will take off.
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post Feb 17, 2010, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(code buttons @ Feb 17, 2010, 06:51 PM) *

QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Feb 17, 2010, 10:38 AM) *

QUOTE(maximus242 @ Feb 17, 2010, 06:05 PM) *

It doesnt really depend on the technology, which is already there, it depends on the quality of the entrepreneur to bring it into reality. Look at Richard Branson, he is commercializing space flight, many others have tried, no one has done nearly as well.

He didnt start with more money (I know hes rich but referring to the amount put into the project) hes just a better businessman.
But Rick's point is the killer. It's the safety aspect. So as beautiful as that flying car looks they aren't going to give the general population the licences to fly them. I suppose the few well off, and well qualified pilots might get to use them. After all the skies already fill up with private planes and helicopters.

They will exist, eventually. When they find a way to direct traffic through some kind of invisible magnetic chute system, the flying car industry will take off.
Then the snow will come: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8421875.stm
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post Feb 17, 2010, 11:54 AM
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Cars are plenty dangerous as well. We would just license pilots the same way we license drivers. The training would be more extensive but the controls would also be more automated and easier to use than a typical commercial plane.
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post Feb 17, 2010, 01:40 PM
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its never going to happen.... the logistics of a transfer from one mode to another would be too complex of an undertaking to achieve! Not to mention the underlying revenue losses in many consumer areas.... will never be allowed to happen! Well, at least not until the earth runs out of natural resources to propel gravitationally earth bound modes of automobile transportation!
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post Apr 15, 2010, 02:26 AM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Feb 08, 2010, 02:46 PM) *

My flying car is getting closer to reality:
Before consumers can use them, flying cars will need artificial brains. Otherwise the meat brained idiots will have them falling out of the sky.


I appreciate your courage and idea but I would like to say that Its really difficult to see what true advantage this could have over the traditional helicopter other than straight line speed.
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post Apr 20, 2010, 05:06 PM
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A smaller space to land and park. You could have your AI pilot fly one right into your carport in the side of a skyscraper.
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post Apr 20, 2010, 05:45 PM
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kind of like that bruce willis movie
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post Apr 23, 2010, 11:31 AM
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Another advantage is speed. A helicopter is limited by blade rotation speed to about 250 miles per hour. There is no inherent limit to the speed of a flying car. The cars in PKD's science fiction books fly about 500 mph.
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post Apr 23, 2010, 03:10 PM
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How about a flying cruise ship... http://www.aeroscraft.com/
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post Apr 23, 2010, 03:47 PM
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Yes!
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post Jul 07, 2010, 06:54 AM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7...uthorities.html
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post Jul 07, 2010, 10:29 AM
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Good news but still too expensive.

I am sure that the future is in a hybrid car, which:

1. Shall lift up vertically via help of 4 safe discs enclosed propellers, like an helicopter, and then
2. Can pump up average size inflatable ultra light air bags (like in airships, with internal ultra-light pneumatically folding and unfolding frames /to support needed volume of the bags in space/, which should provide shapes to those bags into which the gas should be pumped at lifting and pump gas back to containers when the flying car is going to ground) by inflammable gas lighter than air, which shall diminish the total 'mass' of the car by 40%-80% (100% is the best variant, just imagine how effective it shall be in that case!) due to Archimedes Force, thus diminishing the scope of fuel needed to keep the car 'afloat' (provide buoyancy) in air;
3. And a part of its energy it should be able to get from solar panels or rechargeable batteries.

At 100% buoyancy the car can fly vertically with use of solar energy, so the fuel shall be utilized only during lifting up and getting down periods!

I am sure that such a first hybrid car shall be realized in Germany or Austria.
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post Jul 07, 2010, 12:03 PM
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There's no way that a bottle of helium can hold enough gas to lift itself. Do the math.
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