Rick Asks About Unitarians and Unitheism, Are They Similar? If So, In What Ways?--FREEDOM & FAITH IN ACTION Options

[Lindsay]

Rick, I have a great respect for the Unitarian philosophy of religion: Here is a brief outline. Perhaps we could invite a unitarian to join the dialogue here.

http://web.mac.com/mgienke/iWeb/BSEUnitari...%20beliefs.html

BTW, over the years, I have been invited to speak at several Unitarian churches in the Toronto area. I usually use the topic: WHY I COULD BE A UNITARIAN, BUT I AM NOT.

My short answer is: Because the United Church of Canada is so inclusive in matters of theology and faith that I have all the freedom of belief I need within it. The UCC is more into orthopraxy (the practice of agape/Christian/Love--Like the Democrats are supposed to be, Rick) than in orthodoxy
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Meanwhile, Check out: http://www.scienceagogo.com/forum/ubbthrea...32917#Post32917

There I am carrying on a lively dialogue with several atheists/agnostics in a thread by Socratus. I think he is a physicist and a Russian Orthodox. The following is the latest post I made to his thread.

Where and Who is God ? .......

Good dialogue, everyone. If the following comment on the topic is a repeat, I apologize:

Socratus, I know you mean well in raising this question, but, for me, it is a question that I, as a unitheist, would never ask. http://www.unitheist.org

IMO, GOD is not a some 'who' who exists some 'where', like you and I exist. For me, to think of divine Being, the infinite and eternal Now in this way, is to create an idol with the mind.

When Richard Dawkins asks theists: "What and where is your evidence for 'God'" he is asking the same kind of question we have as the title of this topic. In effect he is asking: "Who is, and where is, your God? Introduce me!"

If he asked me this, my answer would be: "Richard your question is like that asked by very young children: 'Daddy! Mommy! If God made us and the world, who made God?'

"Children need to be more mature before they can even ask mature questions and understand mature answers. I trust you are mature and know what I mean when I say: GOD, like the whole of Nature, or Reality, is the every Who and the every Where in which you and I exist.

"Now, as a mature thinkers, surely we can turn on all our physical, mental and spiritual senses. Therefore, to you I say relax, enjoy--and as the scientist you are--continue to help all of us explore this self-evident panentheistic truth. If you prefer to call this truth Nature and/or Reality, go ahead. In addition, I like to use the succinct term GOD. I give you the same freedom of the use of language that I ask of you."
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If anyone has Richard Dawkins e-mail, I would love to hear his response to the above.
BTW, I firmly feel that we all have the right to define GOD, God , god, whatever, ion our own terms.

[Lindsay]

(Lindsay @ Dec 20, 2009, 06:30 AM) *
Put this "liar" on your ignore list, HH. As one who believes in the Golden Rule, I will be happy to return the favour.

Too hot to handle, eh? I rest my case!
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Again: only my FASTREPLY, and EDIT buttons works. When this happens, it would be convenient, with your permission, for me to use EDIT, go inside and handle things from there.
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Back to the question: Who is too hot to handle? You? Or me?
If it is you you mean; and you do not trust what I say, why would you want to talk to someone you imply is a liar?
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BTW 1: Did any of the cases you dug up happen in a liberal and reformed denomination? If not, now you know why we had the Reformation.
BTW 2: Ministers in my church are allowed to have a union to help defend them against lay bullies and bureaucratic clergy supervisors.
BTW 3: Do all atheists behave like prosecuting attorneys? I rest my defense!

BTW 4: The Rev. Anthony Freeman, when he says: "'There is nothing out there or, if there is, we can have no knowledge of it.'
God had no external existence but was a creation of the human heart and mind, a sum-total of all that was good in the world" sounds somewhat like a unitheist and lives in GOD. Some Anglican bishops are quite liberal. I have a feeling he did get a job. I have no comment on the other cases you quote.

[Hey Hey]

When this happens, it would be convenient, with your permission, for me to use EDIT, go inside and handle things from there.

Just use the 'quote' button, Lindsay.