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post Dec 14, 2009, 11:36 PM
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Rick, I have a great respect for the Unitarian philosophy of religion: Here is a brief outline. Perhaps we could invite a unitarian to join the dialogue here.

http://web.mac.com/mgienke/iWeb/BSEUnitari...%20beliefs.html

BTW, over the years, I have been invited to speak at several Unitarian churches in the Toronto area. I usually use the topic: WHY I COULD BE A UNITARIAN, BUT I AM NOT.

My short answer is: Because the United Church of Canada is so inclusive in matters of theology and faith that I have all the freedom of belief I need within it. The UCC is more into orthopraxy (the practice of agape/Christian/Love--Like the Democrats are supposed to be, Rick) than in orthodoxy
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Meanwhile, Check out: http://www.scienceagogo.com/forum/ubbthrea...32917#Post32917

There I am carrying on a lively dialogue with several atheists/agnostics in a thread by Socratus. I think he is a physicist and a Russian Orthodox. The following is the latest post I made to his thread.

QUOTE(socratus)
Where and Who is God ? .......
Good dialogue, everyone. If the following comment on the topic is a repeat, I apologize:

Socratus, I know you mean well in raising this question, but, for me, it is a question that I, as a unitheist, would never ask. http://www.unitheist.org

IMO, GOD is not a some 'who' who exists some 'where', like you and I exist. For me, to think of divine Being, the infinite and eternal Now in this way, is to create an idol with the mind.

When Richard Dawkins asks theists: "What and where is your evidence for 'God'" he is asking the same kind of question we have as the title of this topic. In effect he is asking: "Who is, and where is, your God? Introduce me!"

If he asked me this, my answer would be: "Richard your question is like that asked by very young children: 'Daddy! Mommy! If God made us and the world, who made God?'

"Children need to be more mature before they can even ask mature questions and understand mature answers. I trust you are mature and know what I mean when I say: GOD, like the whole of Nature, or Reality, is the every Who and the every Where in which you and I exist.

"Now, as a mature thinkers, surely we can turn on all our physical, mental and spiritual senses. Therefore, to you I say relax, enjoy--and as the scientist you are--continue to help all of us explore this self-evident panentheistic truth. If you prefer to call this truth Nature and/or Reality, go ahead. In addition, I like to use the succinct term GOD. I give you the same freedom of the use of language that I ask of you." smile.gif
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If anyone has Richard Dawkins e-mail, I would love to hear his response to the above.
BTW, I firmly feel that we all have the right to define GOD, God , god, whatever, ion our own terms.
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"... start one there where you're at ..."

Might just do that.
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Lindsay   Rick Asks About Unitarians and Unitheism   Dec 14, 2009, 11:36 PM
maximus242   Ah I think Richard Dawkins would tear that respons...   Dec 15, 2009, 01:49 AM
Lindsay   Ah I think Richard Dawkins would tear that respon...   Dec 17, 2009, 03:50 PM
Hey Hey   [quote name='maximus242' post='105788' date='Dec ...   Dec 17, 2009, 05:17 PM
Lindsay   ... That is not a very helpful trick to play, in ...   Dec 17, 2009, 09:26 PM
Hey Hey   From Sheldrake's review of Dennet's book ...   Dec 15, 2009, 03:57 AM
maximus242   From Sheldrake's review of Dennet's book ...   Dec 15, 2009, 09:51 AM
Rick   So Unitarianism, as a dogma that eschews all dogma...   Dec 15, 2009, 09:01 AM
code buttons   Why not just call it a social club for those inte...   Dec 15, 2009, 09:22 AM
Rick   Why not just call it a social club for those int...   Dec 15, 2009, 12:05 PM
code buttons   [quote name='code buttons' post='105806' date='De...   Dec 15, 2009, 03:19 PM
Rick   "... start one there where you're at ......   Dec 15, 2009, 05:49 PM
maximus242   Ah I did have a go at it Lindsay. If you look at t...   Dec 17, 2009, 04:14 PM
Hey Hey   Here's some light reading for you Lindsay, to ...   Dec 17, 2009, 05:31 PM
Lindsay   Here's some light reading for you Lindsay, to...   Dec 17, 2009, 09:51 PM
code buttons   .... It is this notion of God as Totality that I ...   Dec 21, 2009, 05:39 PM
Hey Hey   Lindsay, you seem to be have been reconverted...   Dec 18, 2009, 03:24 AM
maximus242   In other words Lindsay, the emotional "feelin...   Dec 18, 2009, 09:45 AM
Lindsay   In other words Lindsay, the emotional "feeli...   Dec 18, 2009, 09:58 PM
Joesus   As one who is a spiritual Being (Spirit, Pneuma),...   Dec 19, 2009, 01:31 AM
maximus242   [quote name='maximus242' post='105977' date='Dec ...   Dec 19, 2009, 10:19 AM
Hey Hey   In other words Lindsay, the emotional "feel...   Dec 19, 2009, 12:04 PM
Lindsay   BTW, my 'puter is playing tricks, again: Only ...   Dec 19, 2009, 09:24 PM
Lindsay   "But you could tell us any old rubbish. I wou...   Dec 19, 2009, 10:30 PM
Hey Hey   Put this "liar" on your ignore list, HH....   Dec 20, 2009, 07:00 AM
maximus242   Lindsay what I am saying is that the definition of...   Dec 20, 2009, 12:01 AM
Lindsay   Too hot to handle, eh? I rest my case! =====...   Dec 20, 2009, 12:02 PM
Hey Hey   When this happens, it would be convenient, with yo...   Dec 20, 2009, 12:09 PM
Joesus   Back to the question: Who is too hot to handle? Y...   Dec 20, 2009, 12:33 PM
Lindsay   Dear Max The Thinker: You say you are a thinker. ...   Dec 20, 2009, 01:40 PM
maximus242   Dear Max The Thinker: You say you are a thinker....   Dec 20, 2009, 09:32 PM
Lindsay   'maximus242' date='Dec 21, 2009, 12:32...   Dec 20, 2009, 11:14 PM
Lindsay   HH HH: QUOTE, has never been of any use, to me. ...   Dec 20, 2009, 02:35 PM
Hey Hey   HH HH: QUOTE, has never been of any use, to me. ...   Dec 20, 2009, 03:51 PM
Hey Hey   Is this system influenced by diabolos ??? Me think...   Dec 20, 2009, 04:21 PM
Hey Hey   Anyway Lindsay, why do you need god (whichever spe...   Dec 20, 2009, 04:14 PM
code buttons   Anyway Lindsay, why do you need god (whichever sp...   Dec 20, 2009, 06:18 PM
Hey Hey   Anyway Lindsay, why do you need god (whichever s...   Dec 20, 2009, 06:27 PM
Hey Hey   ? Off topic for a second, but I just noticed tha...   Dec 20, 2009, 06:33 PM
Lindsay   Greetings from the Kings of Kings Inn Tr., Markham...   Dec 20, 2009, 08:13 PM
Hey Hey   Greetings from the Kings of Kings Inn Tr., Markha...   Dec 20, 2009, 08:31 PM
maximus242   Thank you. Now, why do you believe in the personal...   Dec 21, 2009, 09:50 AM
Joesus   I make no claim that I understand the fine points...   Dec 21, 2009, 10:19 AM
Lindsay   To Thinkers ALL: Max, you comment Please keep in ...   Dec 21, 2009, 01:00 PM
maximus242   This does not answer my question as to WHY do you ...   Dec 21, 2009, 02:50 PM
Lindsay   Because I am a thinker! I choose to believe wh...   Dec 21, 2009, 03:42 PM
maximus242   Because I am a thinker! I choose to believe w...   Dec 21, 2009, 07:26 PM
Joesus   Because I am a thinker! I choose to believe w...   Dec 21, 2009, 07:27 PM
Hey Hey   The universe will provide and last long enough to ...   Dec 21, 2009, 08:08 PM
Joesus   I have no reason to believe that a very similar e...   Dec 22, 2009, 12:05 AM
Hey Hey   If one decides this is all there is or this is as ...   Dec 22, 2009, 09:01 AM
Lindsay   "What if everything, Totality was all inside...   Dec 22, 2009, 09:34 AM
code buttons   "What if everything, Totality was all insid...   Dec 22, 2009, 11:23 AM
Lindsay   MAX asks Even before I read your comments, and th...   Dec 22, 2009, 11:32 AM


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