Devi Jones Index & Enki's Dish Washing Machine; correlations, Singularity: Let us investigate interesting phenomena Options

[Enki]

Reality Show: Let us investigate interesting phenomena

Jul 2 - Close
-223.32 (-2.63%)
8,280.74

To be continued.

[Enki]

Reality Show: Let us investigate interesting phenomena

Jul 2 - Close
-223.32 (-2.63%)
8,280.74

To be continued.

So as you see Kids, the numbers turned to be so prior to the major holidays in US marking 233 anniversary of the Declaration of Independence 4/7/1779.

Certainly it is just a numerical coincidence, but who knows, maybe that is not a coincidence when e.g. such an humble person like I am, writes about that coincidence. It can be a message you know, demonstrating WHO IS WHO for those who ventured to forget about that after developing some capabilities of jumping here and there.

I shall not continue this topic, I just decided to highlight those numbers. Who knows, maybe some intelligent force can operate even at subatomic level of noises?

Happy Independence Day Kids!

[Enki]

I coincidentally decided to consolidate here some interrelated topics for History

1. The God & Economic Crisis., The Great Sustainer, Fluctuations & Phase Transitions
http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20083

2. Hurricane Ike, AIG company and related events: Proof that there is a God in heaven by Michael Moore, It looks like that Ms. Calypso is going to punish the Pirates from Bones & Skulls
http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19594&st=0

I decided to make the update to comment the coming economic developments more effectively.

[Enki]

Don't you all think that it is very serious number???

Compare the numbers and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0xkIVnuRQc

That strange Work of Change of Prime Minister Brown looks like is ruining the world economy, is not it?

LSE average daily equity value traded falls 43%

Oct. 7, 2009, 6:33 a.m. EDT
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/lse-avera...s-43-2009-10-07

By Simon kEnnedy

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- The London Stock Exchange /quotes/comstock/23s!e:lse (UK:LSE 866.50, -6.00, -0.69%) the average daily value traded on its equity markets in September was 7.9 billion pounds ($12.5 billion). The figure was down 43% from September 2008, when markets were highly volatile, but was up 27% from August this year. The average daily number of derivatives contracts traded was flat from a year earlier and up 59% from August at 495,201, while the average daily notional value traded fell 29% to 5 billion pounds.

[Enki]

Gor_bachev started Perestroyka=Work of Change ( see 1:54 minute in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0xkIVnuRQc) just like
Gor_don Brown, what happened with USSR after that is known from books of History.

Can there be some historic parallels?

[Enki]

Collective intelligence of Royal Mail Workers protests

UK postal workers vote for nationwide strike
Thu Oct 8, 2009 7:45am EDT
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews...L00430920091008

LONDON, Oct 8 (Reuters) - Workers at Britain's state-owned Royal Mail [GBPO.UL] voted overwhelmingly for a nationwide strike on Thursday, escalating a dispute over pay and conditions which has caused widespread disruption to postal services.

Members of the Communications Workers' Union voted by more than three to one in favour of the action, although they left open the possibility of further discussions with Royal Mail to try to avert a walkout and work stoppage.

Regional postal strikes in recent weeks have already caused large scale interruptions to postal deliveries, with a damaging impact on businesses. By law, union bosses will have to give seven days notice of a strike. (Reporting by Luke Baker; Editing by Keith Weir)

[Enki]

I just brought an example.

[Hey Hey]

Collective intelligence of Royal Mail Workers protests

I would prefer the term Collective Ignorance.

BTW, I just thought I'd mention that in the midst of these UK postal strikes I have never had so many letters and packages to my two sons go missing, never to be delivered. I think that the criminal postal workers who have obviously stolen the contents deserve no sympathy and I do not support them! The so called trustworthy employees of such establishments always fail to live up to the trust put in them. (In the past when I used to regularly travel overseas I had uncountable numbers of items go missing from luggage after they had left my own keeping to be handed over to the airline staff, baggage handlers and security staff. Such things as shavers, perfume, combs, shoes, ties, cagoules, voice recorders, you name it, went missing - simple things but irreplaceable in some locations I went to on fieldwork.)

[Enki]

Collective intelligence of Royal Mail Workers protests

I would prefer the term Collective Ignorance.

BTW, I just thought I'd mention that in the midst of these UK postal strikes I have never had so many letters and packages to my two sons go missing, never to be delivered. I think that the criminal postal workers who have obviously stolen the contents deserve no sympathy and I do not support them! The so called trustworthy employees of such establishments always fail to live up to the trust put in them. (In the past when I used to regularly travel overseas I had uncountable numbers of items go missing from luggage after they had left my own keeping to be handed over to the airline staff, baggage handlers and security staff. Such things as shavers, perfume, combs, shoes, ties, cagoules, voice recorders, you name it, went missing - simple things but irreplaceable in some locations I went to on fieldwork.)

Barbarians. How seriously Great Britain degraded indeed since last time I been eventually inhabiting that miraculous island.

[Hey Hey]

Collective intelligence of Royal Mail Workers protests

I would prefer the term Collective Ignorance.

BTW, I just thought I'd mention that in the midst of these UK postal strikes I have never had so many letters and packages to my two sons go missing, never to be delivered. I think that the criminal postal workers who have obviously stolen the contents deserve no sympathy and I do not support them! The so called trustworthy employees of such establishments always fail to live up to the trust put in them. (In the past when I used to regularly travel overseas I had uncountable numbers of items go missing from luggage after they had left my own keeping to be handed over to the airline staff, baggage handlers and security staff. Such things as shavers, perfume, combs, shoes, ties, cagoules, voice recorders, you name it, went missing - simple things but irreplaceable in some locations I went to on fieldwork.)

Barbarians. How seriously Great Britain degraded indeed since last time I been eventually inhabiting that miraculous island.

Thanks for your comments complimenting my own feelings. It indeed has become a vile isle, though our rhyming skills still abound and everywhere they can be found. It's just a pity the post is so shitty!

[Enki]

Barbarians. How seriously Great Britain degraded indeed since last time I been eventually inhabiting that miraculous island.

Thanks for your comments complimenting my own feelings. It indeed has become a vile isle, though our rhyming skills still abound and everywhere they can be found. It's just a pity the post is so shitty!

It is my pleasure.

[Enki]

Pay attention to the phrase: "but the balance sheet still stands at $2.2 trillion."

The Fed's $2.2 trillion fire hose
Ben Bernanke and the Fed have lent and spent trillions, but as the recovery takes hold, they'll have to rein some of that back in.


http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/08/news/econo...sion=2009100819

By David Goldman, CNNMoney.com staff writer
Last Updated: October 8, 2009: 11:14 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Federal Reserve threw a lot of money at the crisis to get the gears of the economy turning again -- but it may soon be time to collect on the bill.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke gave an update on the Fed's expensive economic rescue package Thursday evening, in a keynote address at a conference in Washington.

Bernanke and the central bank have been engaged in unprecedented actions over the past year. After the Fed used the last of its rate-cutting bullets, dropping interest rates to zero in December 2008, it had to get creative to keep the recession from tailspinning into a depression.

The Fed's solution was three-fold. It lent funds to companies and investors, bought up Treasury bonds, and purchased Wall Street's unwanted assets.

In all, the Fed more than doubled the size of its balance sheet, to $2.3 trillion.

As the recovery begins to take hold, many of those programs are phasing out, but the balance sheet still stands at $2.2 trillion.

It looks like that the previously used magic does not work, right? No synergy of processes. It looks like that some Sustaining Force does not flow via those amulets. It is probably new phenomena not reported in old books of magic.

[Phi]

the correaltion of #s and facts seems to be a new thing that i dont quite understand because of how it automatically seems to represent a personal interpretation rather than the sharing of a fact.
language in general is imperfect, and the mathematical world tends to believe their language is the most direct form of interpretation...ill leave it at this: i think its on par, if not more connecting, than spoken tongues

[Hey Hey]

the correaltion of #s and facts seems to be a new thing that i dont quite understand because of how it automatically seems to represent a personal interpretation rather than the sharing of a fact.
language in general is imperfect, and the mathematical world tends to believe their language is the most direct form of interpretation...ill leave it at this: i think its on par, if not more connecting, than spoken tongues

I was just wondering about how much maths is or turns out to be wrong. You know, like many areas of science where hypotheses are superseded, or even theories are modified or replaced. How often is it, for example, that some mathematician thinks, "I wish I hadn't published that!" Is a mathematical proof done for ever? In this universe at least ...

[Phi]

actually, i wanted to edit my post but hav problems on my phone.
wat i meant was that spoken tongue is a more effective form of communication because of how it reaches to the masses and seems on par with the imperfection of math. with the evolution of math spreading to represent life as an equation, there seems to be plenty of revisions on what truth is.
i say, if u want to prove something is true, ud better be able to say it directly in words.
that, and i see most number proofs equivalent to another equation that can mean more expansion in whatever truth its trying to represent.
in short, i think this stuff is crap

[Hey Hey]

actually, i wanted to edit my post but hav problems on my phone.
wat i meant was that spoken tongue is a more effective form of communication because of how it reaches to the masses and seems on par with the imperfection of math. with the evolution of math spreading to represent life as an equation, there seems to be plenty of revisions on what truth is.
i say, if u want to prove something is true, ud better be able to say it directly in words.
that, and i see most number proofs equivalent to another equation that can mean more expansion in whatever truth its trying to represent.
in short, i think this stuff is crap

Even thinking is just like painting by numbers - not! I wasn't really replying to your actual comments Phi, but they just got me thinking about the reliability of mathematics. I realise that statistical theories are sometimes based on human perception and not actualisations from natural phenomena. But other mathematics is often considered as natural law. So how good is our interpretation of nature into mathematical theory and law?

[Phi]

i think its on track when explaining whats visible to a few degrees of our scale. when looking at the universe, i still think theres a long way to go in how reliable math explains the phenomenon

[Hey Hey]

i think its on track when explaining whats visible to a few degrees of our scale. when looking at the universe, i still think theres a long way to go in how reliable math explains the phenomenon

Can the mathematics ever be precise? Or is it like infinity? Is mathematics like reality, actual reality, or an illusion?

[Phi]

id say an ever evolving representation of reality....just like language that involves proving

[Hey Hey]

id say an ever evolving representation of reality....just like language that involves proving

an ever evolving representation of reality - I like that. If I'd said it, it would go in a poem!

[Phi]

ah, well thank u sir. maybe ill make one

[Trip like I do]

I wonder what kind of mathematics has best described and does describe reality (be it visual or theoretical)! I favor of geo-metrics

[Phi]

physics.
ive got a strong belief that the explanation of waves and the effect upon particles exemplifies the patterns of our causes and effects.
a solid exemplification of reality is geometrically based from a static vantage point tho.
as everything evolves, the goal of mathematics seems to be a predictability to serve the best cause of action to optimize results

[Trip like I do]

soooo.... when you think about wavelengths with your mind's eye, do you string together abstract numbers and letters in a long mathematical equation or do you visualize a two-dimensional line traversing a two-dimensional planar surface (i.e. a ~ on a piece of paper or, to be more contemporary, on a computer screen)

can you give me, if you will, a mathematical equation of physics that best exemplifies any wavelength

can you imagine the mathematical equation it would take to plot out all the points occupied in space of a, for example, three dimensional box [] a circle O a wavelength ~ or even a line ---- and lest we forget even a point .

http://www.school-for-champions.com/scienc...r_equations.htm

Standard Doppler effect equation

The standard equation for the observed frequency of a waveform for a moving source is:

fo = fv/(v ± vs)

where

* fo is the observed frequency
* v is the velocity of the waveform
* vs is the velocity of the source
* f is the emitted frequency
* ± is plus or minus; plus (+) is used when motion is away from you and minus (−) is used when motion is toward you

Blue-shift equation

The equation for the observed frequency of a light wave when the source is traveling toward you (blue-shift) is:

fb = f(1 + vb/c)

where

* fb is the observed blue-shift frequency
* vb is the velocity toward you
* c is the speed of light
* c >> vb (c is much greater than vs)

Red-shift equation

The equation for the observed frequency of a light wave when the source is traveling away from you (red-shift) is:

fr = f(1 − vr/c)

where

* fr is the observed red-shift frequency
* vr is the velocity away from you

Note that "−" and "+" are reversed as compared to the standard Doppler effect equations. This is a result of the approximation.

Wavelength

A shift in frequency of electromagnetic radiation is not readily measured. Instead, devices such as a spectroscope is used to measure a change in wavelength of the light. Knowing the velocity of the moving source of light (vs), you can use the equations c = fλ and f = c/λ to convert the frequency equations to solve for wavelength.

The blue-shift equation for wavelength is:

λb = λc/(c + vb)

where

* λb is the observed blue-shift wavelength
* λ is the emitted wavelength (Greek symbol lambda)

The red-shift equation for wavelength is:

λr = λc/(c − vr)
Example

When heated, the various chemical elements give off light in a specific series of wavelengths or spectral lines. Astronomers study a number of spectral lines, but for our purposes, we will use the Hydrogen spectral line of λ = 434 nm, which is in the violet region of the visible spectrum.

(See Electromagnetic Spectrum for more information.)

If a distant galaxy is moving away from us at approximately 50,000 km/s and we approximate the speed of light as c = 300,000 km/s, then the resulting wavelength will be:

λr = λc/(c − vr)

Substitute values into equation.

λr = 434*300000/(300000 − 50000)

λr = 520.8 nm

The line has shifted from violet to green. Other spectral lines would also have shifted toward the red end of the spectrum.
Velocity

Typically, an astronomer would study the spectrum of a distant star or galaxy and measure the new observed spectral lines of the various elements on the object. Then the direction and velocity of the star or galaxy would be determined.

The equation for velocity is derived from the above wavelength equations.

The blue-shift equation for velocity is:

vb = c(λ/λb − 1)

The red-shift equation for velocity is:

vr = c(1 − λ/λr)
Example

If the astronomer saw that the Hydrogen 434 spectral line of a distant star had shifted to 482 nm, what would be the velocity of the star?

Since the wavelength increased, you would use the red-shift equation.

vr = c(1 − λ/λr)

Substitute the values.

vr = 300000*(1 − 434/482)

vr = 300000*(1 − 0.9)

vr = 30,000 km/s

Summary

When the source of light or electromagnetic radiation is traveling, the Doppler effect will cause a shift in the observed frequency and wavelength and an approximate equation can be used to determine that shift. The shift in wavelength is used in astronomy to tell when a distant galaxy or star is moving toward the Earth (blue-shift) or away (red-shift). Equations are available for determining the new frequency and wavelength, as well as the velocity of the source.

[Phi]

the first thing i think is a silly line, if i want to break it down as to how it works ill think of the abstract math part of it...it all depends on what im using my picture for.

I know that if i was able to give u an example of a wavelength equation right now that impressed me, I'd definitely change my major. errrrr.....a sine function? I never got far enough in math to explain wavelengths other than two dimensionally.

I could also imagine the absurdity of the scale of a math equation that would represent all points. That's why I don't like math in general.

Why do u like geo-metrics?

[Trip like I do]

purely out of aesthetic visual pleasure

[Phi]

i second that one. i think the world would be better in a way if there was more attention paid to aesthetics. the places with that have paid attention give so much inspiration...i wonder if its because its something new, or that humans have some kind of deep down connection to certain displayed patterns

[Hey Hey]

i second that one. i think the world would be better in a way if there was more attention paid to aesthetics. the places with that have paid attention give so much inspiration...i wonder if its because its something new, or that humans have some kind of deep down connection to certain displayed patterns

Is aesthetics in music, painting, sculpture etc, nature or nurture?

[Trip like I do]

I likely would say both as certain aesthetic pleasures are innate, while others may be taught, molded and/or coerced

[Phi]

fun exemplification of what we all have to offer.

as we go round and round trying to learn, it only creates more options