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| x_danny_x |
Jun 28, 2009, 07:32 AM
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say i order L-Huperzine A & Pyritinol to go along with Deprenyl that i am already taking for 4 of weeks.
after four days of Deprenyl i felt my brain gain weight and had a erge to conquer the world lol. felt like i could do anything. it took me out of depression. hope this is not a placebo thing it was mentioned that Deprenyl also enhances memory and cognitive enhancement. i am taking the liquid form, which i heard isnt as good as the pill and needs to be taken with meals, but so far it has been working for me. LifeMeta though mentioned it isnt good for memory though, that is why i order L-Huperzine A and Pyritinol. I was wondering though about Ampakine since i heard they are now the best nooptropics in order to get the best of memory and cognitive enhancement. would adding it help and work well with L-Huperzine and Pyritinol and give better results? also which ones do i need to cycle off? I heard L-Huperzine works right away and you can take it when you need too, but what about the others? i saw LifeMeta thread about what he takes, i know he is different and may not apply to me but just noticing that he is stacking quite a bit of nooptropics and he is okay. |
| GodConsciousness |
Jun 29, 2009, 04:53 AM
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say i order L-Huperzine A & Pyritinol to go along with Deprenyl that i am already taking for 4 of weeks. after four days of Deprenyl i felt my brain gain weight and had a erge to conquer the world lol. felt like i could do anything. it took me out of depression. hope this is not a placebo thing it was mentioned that Deprenyl also enhances memory and cognitive enhancement. i am taking the liquid form, which i heard isnt as good as the pill and needs to be taken with meals, but so far it has been working for me. LifeMeta though mentioned it isnt good for memory though, that is why i order L-Huperzine A and Pyritinol. I was wondering though about Ampakine since i heard they are now the best nooptropics in order to get the best of memory and cognitive enhancement. would adding it help and work well with L-Huperzine and Pyritinol and give better results? also which ones do i need to cycle off? I heard L-Huperzine works right away and you can take it when you need too, but what about the others? i saw LifeMeta thread about what he takes, i know he is different and may not apply to me but just noticing that he is stacking quite a bit of nooptropics and he is okay. I would add new substances slowly- perhaps starting with the huperzine a. Aniracetam is an ampakine you may want to consider and cycling off a couple days a week with all that you are taking is probably a good idea. |
| x_danny_x |
Jun 29, 2009, 06:49 AM
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say i order L-Huperzine A & Pyritinol to go along with Deprenyl that i am already taking for 4 of weeks. after four days of Deprenyl i felt my brain gain weight and had a erge to conquer the world lol. felt like i could do anything. it took me out of depression. hope this is not a placebo thing it was mentioned that Deprenyl also enhances memory and cognitive enhancement. i am taking the liquid form, which i heard isnt as good as the pill and needs to be taken with meals, but so far it has been working for me. LifeMeta though mentioned it isnt good for memory though, that is why i order L-Huperzine A and Pyritinol. I was wondering though about Ampakine since i heard they are now the best nooptropics in order to get the best of memory and cognitive enhancement. would adding it help and work well with L-Huperzine and Pyritinol and give better results? also which ones do i need to cycle off? I heard L-Huperzine works right away and you can take it when you need too, but what about the others? i saw LifeMeta thread about what he takes, i know he is different and may not apply to me but just noticing that he is stacking quite a bit of nooptropics and he is okay. I would add new substances slowly- perhaps starting with the huperzine a. Aniracetam is an ampakine you may want to consider and cycling off a couple days a week with all that you are taking is probably a good idea. so the others i can take continuously without worries? it is okay that i can take them at the sametime? i remember reading that even with 1mg of Deprenyl if you are using it continuously, it will block/inhibit MAO -B and it would be irreversible. dont know if that is a good thing or not, dont know if it is true as well. mao -b breaks down dopmaine which you dont it to do |
| GodConsciousness |
Jun 29, 2009, 06:58 AM
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deprenyl (selegilene) is an irreversible MAO-B inhibitor. you may want to take it with L-Dopa, but I would cycle off the deprenyl fairly regularly.
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| x_danny_x |
Jun 29, 2009, 09:19 AM
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so how many times of a week are we talking about for Deprenyl i should be taking/cycling it? also for the Aniracetam, how should i cycle it.
i heard about this other nooptropic called Reservol or something. It is more potent than Deprenyl it was mentioned. CBS 60 Minutes show is even given a special on that since it could make you live longer. would i have to cycle Reservol as well like Deprenyl? |
| GodConsciousness |
Jun 29, 2009, 09:24 AM
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so how many times of a week are we talking about for Deprenyl i should be taking/cycling it? also for the Aniracetam, how should i cycle it. i heard about this other nooptropic called Reservol or something. It is more potent than Deprenyl it was mentioned. CBS 60 Minutes show is even given a special on that since it could make you live longer. would i have to cycle Reservol as well like Deprenyl? Sounds like you are talking about Resveratrol which has anti-aging effects and can be useful for the brain. Resveratrol is quite different from Deprenyl however. Aniracetam can be taken daily and is very well tolerated. Deprenyl can be a little tricky however. Try cycling out for two days a week and go from there. Closely monitor your thoughts, how you feel, etc. Also keep an eye on your sleeping patterns and make sure you get enough sleep. Deprenyl may interrupt sleeping patterns from time to time. |
| x_danny_x |
Jun 29, 2009, 02:08 PM
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two days a week? so you mean take it for 5 days and dont take it for weekends?
what is L -Dopa? if i cycle Deprenyl do i need the L-Dopa? i thought they were both life extending drugs between Deprenyl and Resveratrol i was wondering more about the potent Ampakine nooptropics, heard they are more powerful than the racetam |
| GodConsciousness |
Jun 29, 2009, 02:59 PM
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l-dopa increases the release of dopamine and appears synergistic with deprenyl due to the dual action effect on the dopaminergic system, but there is quite a bit of research controversy surrounding the combination. Due to the other nootropics you are considering, I would skip the l-dopa to be on the safe side. Too much dopamine can be toxic.
while deprenyl can be helpful for senile dementia, I don't quite consider it a life-extension substance like resveratrol. aniracetam and pramiracetam are both ampakines that are quite powerful. what other ampakines are you referring to? there are some ampakines in the pharma pipeline but none are available quite yet (that I know of at least). pramiracetam may be the most potent ampakine legally available. while I don't see any contraindication issues with a stack consisting of deprenyl, huperzine a, pyritinol, resveratrol and an ampakine (such as aniracetam or pramiracetam), its bound to be pretty strong and I would take it slow. |
| x_danny_x |
Jun 29, 2009, 10:32 PM
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l-dopa increases the release of dopamine and appears synergistic with deprenyl due to the dual action effect on the dopaminergic system, but there is quite a bit of research controversy surrounding the combination. Due to the other nootropics you are considering, I would skip the l-dopa to be on the safe side. Too much dopamine can be toxic. while deprenyl can be helpful for senile dementia, I don't quite consider it a life-extension substance like resveratrol. aniracetam and pramiracetam are both ampakines that are quite powerful. what other ampakines are you referring to? there are some ampakines in the pharma pipeline but none are available quite yet (that I know of at least). pramiracetam may be the most potent ampakine legally available. while I don't see any contraindication issues with a stack consisting of deprenyl, huperzine a, pyritinol, resveratrol and an ampakine (such as aniracetam or pramiracetam), its bound to be pretty strong and I would take it slow. i thought generally these nooptropics were to some extent life extension supplements since using them helps protect the brain and keep it young and motoring. i didnt realize that too much dopamine could be toxic, i heard 1mg of Deprenyl would block the MAO-B inhibitor for two weeks. so taking it 5 days a week and not taking it on the weekend should not create that much dopmaine to become toxic after i am done with Deprenyl i might just use Resveratrol instead. i want a drug to help prolong my life. the reason i took Deprenyl was to hep me increase/enhance my Cognitive thinking, memory (short term and long term), etc. though reading about it, it seems that it is not as good as Pyritinol and L-Huperzine, they are more better suite for this. i want to become a genius!!! the ampakines that are Cortex Pharmaceuticals like CX-717 i believe it is name, i heard they are better at enhancing cognitive, memory, learning, etc. since they interact strongly with AMPA receptors, unlike racetams, even pramiracetam i will take it low dosage when combining all these guys. i am going to switch though from Deprynal to Resveratrol. you said i dont have cycle Aniracetam, but the others i should then correct? on 5 days and off 2 days |
| GodConsciousness |
Jun 30, 2009, 04:07 AM
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Hard to tell whether Cortex's CX717 will get passed through the FDA. CX717 does look promising, however, and we are likely to see drugs targeting the AMPA receptors much more in the near future.
Anti-aging and life extension regimens often involve the inclusion of resveratrol, DHA, alpha lipoic acid and acetyl-l-carnitine. These also have some cognitive enhancing effects. I personally recommend in addition to these a strong overall healthy diet rich in protein and amino acids. Much of my own research of late has been illuminating the importance of proteins and amino acids in the aging brain. You may also be interested in a pdf I put together for people with Alzheimer's that applies in large part to anti-aging as well. See http://alzenia.com/ultimatealzheimerscocktail.pdf Both galantamine and huperzine a are excellent for memory and help maintain acetylcholine levels. While the others on your preliminary list would not have to be cycled, I personally feel that greater efficacy can be achieved by cycling ALL supplements and enhancers at least to some extent. The frequency and duration is up to you. Taking a day or two off a week or alternating which ones you take may increase effectiveness in the long run. You are likely to get a difference of opinion on the need to cycle the substances you mention and you really need to find what may work best for you and your own individual neurochemistry. However, the substances we have been talking about have been tested fairly extensively and have been well tolerated for extended periods of time. |
| x_danny_x |
Jun 30, 2009, 07:34 AM
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Hard to tell whether Cortex's CX717 will get passed through the FDA. CX717 does look promising, however, and we are likely to see drugs targeting the AMPA receptors much more in the near future. Anti-aging and life extension regimens often involve the inclusion of resveratrol, DHA, alpha lipoic acid and acetyl-l-carnitine. These also have some cognitive enhancing effects. I personally recommend in addition to these a strong overall healthy diet rich in protein and amino acids. Much of my own research of late has been illuminating the importance of proteins and amino acids in the aging brain. You may also be interested in a pdf I put together for people with Alzheimer's that applies in large part to anti-aging as well. See http://alzenia.com/ultimatealzheimerscocktail.pdf Both galantamine and huperzine a are excellent for memory and help maintain acetylcholine levels. While the others on your preliminary list would not have to be cycled, I personally feel that greater efficacy can be achieved by cycling ALL supplements and enhancers at least to some extent. The frequency and duration is up to you. Taking a day or two off a week or alternating which ones you take may increase effectiveness in the long run. You are likely to get a difference of opinion on the need to cycle the substances you mention and you really need to find what may work best for you and your own individual neurochemistry. However, the substances we have been talking about have been tested fairly extensively and have been well tolerated for extended periods of time. one question, after long prolong use of these products, like years of taking them, do you retain the enhancement of memory, cognitive, and learning that it gave you or does your brain returns to normal? i am planning to take these products for a long time, just curious. i am taking fish oil Omega 3 and L-Carnitine and Protein on a fairly regular basis since i do work out. used to take some of the legal steroids for muscle growth sold as supplements but i stop the steroids. which foods are the best to get the amino acids from? protein i know since it is generally meat, milk and some vegetables such as Beans. cognitive enhancing is still being accomplished by L - Huperzine and Pyritinol to a good degree correct? I believe LifeMeta mentioned about some Ampikines that were being sold. I PM him like he wants you to do but he didnt respond. He also suggested to go with noops like Centrophenoxine in some of his posts instead of the racetams i read about Galantamine it is quite expensive from the sites i went too. pramiracetam is also quite expensive. so far this is my current stack... Deprenyl (will switch to Resevratol), L- Huperzine A, Pyrtinol, Fish Oil, MultiVitamin, and L-Carnitine. i am thinking of buying Centrophenoxine or Aniracetam. i was reading your PDF file, it mentioned Alpha GPC. is it very good with cognitive enhancements? i am unsure which of those three will help me improve results with my current stack. or do i need an extra item? isnt Deprenyl one of the best products to help enhance Cognitive enhancement and memory? i was under the impression that it was. one menitoned after taking for a couple weeks he was able to remember pratically everything he studied for. |
| GodConsciousness |
Jun 30, 2009, 07:48 AM
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I recommend taking the racetams with a choline precursor and Alpha GPC is one of the best. Alpha GPC also increases nerve growth factor secretion and has many other benefits.
Galantamine is quite a bit more expensive than Huperzine A but I do feel it is superior in terms of memory enhancement. It just comes down to a cost-benefit analysis and what works best for you. Pramiracetam is the most expensive of the racetams and the most potent. You don't need as much of it in comparison to piracetam or even aniracetam. Both Centrophenoxine and Alpha GPC are synergistic with the racetams. Deprenyl is helpful for cognitive enhancement and you may also want to consider hydergine along these lines. Cycling will likely help keep efficacy up over extended periods of time and you should be able to sustain the improvements. Also keep your diet solid, keep your mind active and learn as much as you can about whatever interests you. Sounds like you are exercising fairly regularly and this will keep your brain strong. Also limit alcohol consumption as much as you can and get sufficient sleep. |
| x_danny_x |
Jun 30, 2009, 09:09 AM
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I recommend taking the racetams with a choline precursor and Alpha GPC is one of the best. Alpha GPC also increases nerve growth factor secretion and has many other benefits. Galantamine is quite a bit more expensive than Huperzine A but I do feel it is superior in terms of memory enhancement. It just comes down to a cost-benefit analysis and what works best for you. Pramiracetam is the most expensive of the racetams and the most potent. You don't need as much of it in comparison to piracetam or even aniracetam. Both Centrophenoxine and Alpha GPC are synergistic with the racetams. Deprenyl is helpful for cognitive enhancement and you may also want to consider hydergine along these lines. Cycling will likely help keep efficacy up over extended periods of time and you should be able to sustain the improvements. Also keep your diet solid, keep your mind active and learn as much as you can about whatever interests you. Sounds like you are exercising fairly regularly and this will keep your brain strong. Also limit alcohol consumption as much as you can and get sufficient sleep. how much potent is Pramiracetam to Aniracetam? i am worried about the half life since the shorter the half life, the more i got to take it. can i just increase the dosage for the Aniracetam? Alpha GPC is a choline precursor? i havent research that part yet. what is the benefit of taking it a choline precursor also hydergine, never heard of it before. forgive me i am new at this. i havent heard anything about Pyritinol from you, is it the best for cognitive enhancement. cognitive enhancement is the most i am interested since i want to become more intelligent. yeah, right now at my job we are having to learn a bunch of other departments work so we be prepared more for our customers in their questions..all in the name of marketing and making money. we are going to go through some brain cramp courses, so like 10 hours a day and we will do it for 3 to 4 weeks, then ofcourse having to digest all this crap and maintaining all this. then ofcourse finding new ways to improve it is also most likely at night since i work the night shift which ofcourse your brain is and body is somewhat tired more. i dont drink or smoke, im for improving/advancing not taking things that does the opposite, lol. |
| GodConsciousness |
Jul 01, 2009, 05:24 AM
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Pramiracetam is generally considered to be between 8-30 times more potent than piracetam and aniracetam is 5-10 times more potent than piracetam. Pramiracetam's half life is roughly 5-7 hours and aniracetam's half life is about 2 hours.
While there has been some debate on this, it is generally recommended to take the racetams with a choline precursor such as Alpha GPC to prevent headaches and to replenish acetylcholine depletion. In full disclosure, I have a pending patent on the more potent racetam analogs combined with choline precursors including Alpha GPC and have developed products along these lines. An MIT researcher was one of the original investigators of the racetam/choline synergy. Many people have had great results with hydergine, but it is not generally recommended to take on a daily basis. Pyritinol is effective for lots of folks and a preferred enhancer for them. |
| x_danny_x |
Jul 01, 2009, 05:54 AM
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thanks alot
dude, i didn't know you had a website selling this stuff? i was just reviewing your post here about Pramiracetam/Alpha GPC and saw your site while searching. there is a product with Pramiracetam/Alpha, i remember here seeing it in the advertising at this board/forum thinking of buying this thing |
| GodConsciousness |
Jul 01, 2009, 05:57 AM
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My company does sponsor BM and I am personally involved in cognitive enhancement research and the development of new cognitive enhancer formulas.
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| x_danny_x |
Jul 01, 2009, 06:19 AM
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i see, alright, let me try that product. is it fast acting? like i dont have to wait for a couple of weeks to start noticing a difference, only like a few days?
so my stack is going to be currently Deprenyl, Synaptine Ultra, L-Huperzine A, and Pyritinol. added along with fish oil, protein, and amino acid L-Carnitine. also use Binueral Beats brain waves cds for left/right hemispheres unity. |
| GodConsciousness |
Jul 01, 2009, 06:26 AM
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Synaptine Ultra is pretty fast acting. You should notice it the first day but it does help to maintain consistency to see long term results. As we talked about earlier, however, I would cycle it.
Please keep us updated and if I can help answer any more questions, please either pm me or continue the thread. |
| x_danny_x |
Jul 01, 2009, 06:50 AM
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no problem dude, thanks for everything. right now Deprenyl by itself may brain feel more focus, but also heavier. i feel it gain 10 pounds.
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| LifeMirage |
Jul 03, 2009, 03:40 PM
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so how many times of a week are we talking about for Deprenyl i should be taking/cycling it? also for the Aniracetam, how should i cycle it. i heard about this other nooptropic called Reservol or something. It is more potent than Deprenyl it was mentioned. CBS 60 Minutes show is even given a special on that since it could make you live longer. would i have to cycle Reservol as well like Deprenyl? What is your age? Deprenyl's inhibition of MAO-B last approximately 14-30 days, which should be kept in mind when dosing it especially over long periods of time and the potential for interactions. two days a week? so you mean take it for 5 days and dont take it for weekends? what is L -Dopa? if i cycle Deprenyl do i need the L-Dopa? i thought they were both life extending drugs between Deprenyl and Resveratrol i was wondering more about the potent Ampakine nooptropics, heard they are more powerful than the racetam Are you looking to take deprenyl solely for antiaging purpose? i thought generally these nooptropics were to some extent life extension supplements since using them helps protect the brain and keep it young and motoring. i didnt realize that too much dopamine could be toxic, i heard 1mg of Deprenyl would block the MAO-B inhibitor for two weeks. so taking it 5 days a week and not taking it on the weekend should not create that much dopmaine to become toxic after i am done with Deprenyl i might just use Resveratrol instead. i want a drug to help prolong my life. the reason i took Deprenyl was to hep me increase/enhance my Cognitive thinking, memory (short term and long term), etc. though reading about it, it seems that it is not as good as Pyritinol and L-Huperzine, they are more better suite for this. i want to become a genius!!! i will take it low dosage when combining all these guys. i am going to switch though from Deprynal to Resveratrol. you said i dont have cycle Aniracetam, but the others i should then correct? on 5 days and off 2 days An excess of any neurotransmitter can led to many health issues just as deficiency will also. Deprenyl is a well studied compound both in humans and animals for decades. Both LEF and A4M recommend deprenyl for antaging purposes. While future research hopes promise for resveratrol there isn't much human research to date. |
| x_danny_x |
Jul 04, 2009, 10:03 PM
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so how many times of a week are we talking about for Deprenyl i should be taking/cycling it? also for the Aniracetam, how should i cycle it. i heard about this other nooptropic called Reservol or something. It is more potent than Deprenyl it was mentioned. CBS 60 Minutes show is even given a special on that since it could make you live longer. would i have to cycle Reservol as well like Deprenyl? What is your age? Deprenyl's inhibition of MAO-B last approximately 14-30 days, which should be kept in mind when dosing it especially over long periods of time and the potential for interactions. two days a week? so you mean take it for 5 days and dont take it for weekends? what is L -Dopa? if i cycle Deprenyl do i need the L-Dopa? i thought they were both life extending drugs between Deprenyl and Resveratrol i was wondering more about the potent Ampakine nooptropics, heard they are more powerful than the racetam Are you looking to take deprenyl solely for antiaging purpose? i thought generally these nooptropics were to some extent life extension supplements since using them helps protect the brain and keep it young and motoring. i didnt realize that too much dopamine could be toxic, i heard 1mg of Deprenyl would block the MAO-B inhibitor for two weeks. so taking it 5 days a week and not taking it on the weekend should not create that much dopmaine to become toxic after i am done with Deprenyl i might just use Resveratrol instead. i want a drug to help prolong my life. the reason i took Deprenyl was to hep me increase/enhance my Cognitive thinking, memory (short term and long term), etc. though reading about it, it seems that it is not as good as Pyritinol and L-Huperzine, they are more better suite for this. i want to become a genius!!! i will take it low dosage when combining all these guys. i am going to switch though from Deprynal to Resveratrol. you said i dont have cycle Aniracetam, but the others i should then correct? on 5 days and off 2 days An excess of any neurotransmitter can led to many health issues just as deficiency will also. Deprenyl is a well studied compound both in humans and animals for decades. Both LEF and A4M recommend deprenyl for antaging purposes. While future research hopes promise for resveratrol there isn't much human research to date. okay well i'm 31. Deprynal i am using it to help fight against anti aging and fighting depression, so yes. but if it help me improve in other areas such as intelligence then that would be awesome as well. how many days of Deprynal use will make the MAO-B be inhibit for 14-30 days? so how long should the cycle be?????? from what i am getting is to use it during the weekdays and be off during the weekends. seeing as with what you just mentioned about Deprynal inhibiting MAO-B for 14 days, i think should be off Deprynal for longer than that also what do you think of Centrophenoxine? |
| LifeMirage |
Jul 05, 2009, 02:41 AM
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okay well i'm 31. Deprynal i am using it to help fight against anti aging and fighting depression, so yes. but if it help me improve in other areas such as intelligence then that would be awesome as well. how many days of Deprynal use will make the MAO-B be inhibit for 14-30 days? so how long should the cycle be?????? from what i am getting is to use it during the weekdays and be off during the weekends. seeing as with what you just mentioned about Deprynal inhibiting MAO-B for 14 days, i think should be off Deprynal for longer than that also what do you think of Centrophenoxine? Some research suggests 1 dose will have this effect, although it may vary on the individual. Based on your age and purpose I would recommend using 1-2.5 mg weekly to daily every other month. Centrophenoxine has potent antiaging properties and is a decent choline donor. I would recommend it for antiaging purposes and cognitive enhancement. |
| x_danny_x |
Jul 05, 2009, 05:58 AM
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1 dose? i am using the liquid version called Selepryl/Selegilinia i know you have mentioned that the liquid verison is to be avoided but so far it has been working for me. so 1 drop of deprenyl will this effect.
forgive me, i am trying to understand the cycle method you just gave. you are saying to take 1-2.5mg and too take it weekly first and then switch to taking that same amount then on a daily basis. now when you mentioned every other month, you mean to do this for 1 month and then be off completely from the Deprenyl the next month and then the next month be on again did i get right? also should i cycle the rest of the nootropics that im going to take the same way? |
| LifeMirage |
Jul 05, 2009, 11:13 AM
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1 dose? i am using the liquid version called Selepryl/Selegilinia i know you have mentioned that the liquid verison is to be avoided but so far it has been working for me. so 1 drop of deprenyl will this effect. forgive me, i am trying to understand the cycle method you just gave. you are saying to take 1-2.5mg and too take it weekly first and then switch to taking that same amount then on a daily basis. now when you mentioned every other month, you mean to do this for 1 month and then be off completely from the Deprenyl the next month and then the next month be on again did i get right? also should i cycle the rest of the nootropics that im going to take the same way? I can't recommend higher doses of a prescription drug to an individual. The liquid version is not proven and is not made by a pharmaceutical company, which means you are taking a research chemical without gov regulated quality controls. You are taking a chance with your life by using such a product even if you "feel" it working. 1 dose of deprenyl may inhibit MAO-B for at least 2 weeks in the bloodstream and upwards of 40 days in the brain. If you chose to you can take it anywhere from once a week or daily for a period of 1-4 weeks, however I would suggest stopping use for a period of at least a month before resuming. Most other nootropics do not last anywhere as long as deprenyl so you would not be required to cycle off in a similar fashion. |
| x_danny_x |
Jul 06, 2009, 05:31 AM
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1 dose? i am using the liquid version called Selepryl/Selegilinia i know you have mentioned that the liquid verison is to be avoided but so far it has been working for me. so 1 drop of deprenyl will this effect. forgive me, i am trying to understand the cycle method you just gave. you are saying to take 1-2.5mg and too take it weekly first and then switch to taking that same amount then on a daily basis. now when you mentioned every other month, you mean to do this for 1 month and then be off completely from the Deprenyl the next month and then the next month be on again did i get right? also should i cycle the rest of the nootropics that im going to take the same way? I can't recommend higher doses of a prescription drug to an individual. The liquid version is not proven and is not made by a pharmaceutical company, which means you are taking a research chemical without gov regulated quality controls. You are taking a chance with your life by using such a product even if you "feel" it working. 1 dose of deprenyl may inhibit MAO-B for at least 2 weeks in the bloodstream and upwards of 40 days in the brain. If you chose to you can take it anywhere from once a week or daily for a period of 1-4 weeks, however I would suggest stopping use for a period of at least a month before resuming. Most other nootropics do not last anywhere as long as deprenyl so you would not be required to cycle off in a similar fashion. so with Deprenyl, 1 tablet you can take once a 1 week or daily for a month then be off for the next month. do you know how the cycle method for L- Huperzine A, Pyritinol, and the racetams? |
| LifeMirage |
Jul 06, 2009, 10:29 PM
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![]() Demi-God ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Global Mod Posts: 974 Joined: Apr 13, 2005 From: Netherlands Member No.: 4349 |
1 dose? i am using the liquid version called Selepryl/Selegilinia i know you have mentioned that the liquid verison is to be avoided but so far it has been working for me. so 1 drop of deprenyl will this effect. forgive me, i am trying to understand the cycle method you just gave. you are saying to take 1-2.5mg and too take it weekly first and then switch to taking that same amount then on a daily basis. now when you mentioned every other month, you mean to do this for 1 month and then be off completely from the Deprenyl the next month and then the next month be on again did i get right? also should i cycle the rest of the nootropics that im going to take the same way? I can't recommend higher doses of a prescription drug to an individual. The liquid version is not proven and is not made by a pharmaceutical company, which means you are taking a research chemical without gov regulated quality controls. You are taking a chance with your life by using such a product even if you "feel" it working. 1 dose of deprenyl may inhibit MAO-B for at least 2 weeks in the bloodstream and upwards of 40 days in the brain. If you chose to you can take it anywhere from once a week or daily for a period of 1-4 weeks, however I would suggest stopping use for a period of at least a month before resuming. Most other nootropics do not last anywhere as long as deprenyl so you would not be required to cycle off in a similar fashion. so with Deprenyl, 1 tablet you can take once a 1 week or daily for a month then be off for the next month. do you know how the cycle method for L- Huperzine A, Pyritinol, and the racetams? One dose a week for 1-4 weeks or daily for a month followed by a month off. You may use the other nootropics as needed or discontinue usage for as many days as you have been on them. If you are using them to treat a disorder I would suggest a different dosage. |
| x_danny_x |
Jul 09, 2009, 10:47 PM
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thanks so much LifeMeta, you know your stuff man, i cant thank you and GodConsciouness enough
how should i take the products, can i take them all at the same time? like taking all in the morning and then in the afternoon or should i take 2 nootropics in the morning and then take what is left in the afternoon. so far i have Pyritinol, L Huperzine A, Deprynel, Primaracetam/Alpha GPC, and Centrophenoxine. i also take Fish Oil, Multivitamin, and Vitamin B complex. |
| GodConsciousness |
Jul 10, 2009, 04:10 AM
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You may want to start with the Synaptine Ultra (pramiracetam/Alpha GPC) along with the fish oil and vitamins to begin with. I have been getting really good feedback on Ultra and it should be plenty to start. The others you may want to add slowly.
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| x_danny_x |
Jul 10, 2009, 01:07 PM
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how many times a day should i be taking it. just once since it is so powerful???
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| GodConsciousness |
Jul 10, 2009, 01:17 PM
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