What God is is a Title? Then who is God? Options

[P.j.S]

If there are higher beings on the earth from other places why do you think that they are necessarily honest?

Could they not fool simple men with their higher intelligence and ability to direct a person's thoughts into thinking that God was dealing with them personally?. Satan entered into Judas and then he betrayed Jesus. Satan incited David to take a census of the people of Isreal against the direction of Jehovah.

This demonstrates the point that Satan lives and tries to get worship for himself from individuals as the temptation by Satan to Jesus on the unusually high mountain tells us.

How do you know Joesus that Satan isn't fooling you into following him? Jesus never had a demon control his mind or heart. He made known that the ruler of the world was coming at the time he spoke and that this one had no hold on him (Jesus).

As a witness of YHWH Jesus made known God's name in public from door to door. His faith was that the kingdom of the heavens had drawn near. Today YHWH witnesses know that Jesus is ruling in that Kingdom with power in the midst of his enemies.

What is your faith Joesus? Without faith you cannot serve God well. Who is God in your mind?.

[P.j.S]

Some simple math. "i^2 = -1"

x^2 + 1 = 0 then x^2 = -1. When x =-1 also then x^2 = +1. Then -1 = +1. Or x^2 = x^2. Taking -1 across the equal sign then +1 + 1 = 2. This would be three entities in the beginning when John 1:1 speaks of only two entities and the second entity number 2 got its start from number 1 when using numbers to illustrate positions.

To say that x^2 as (-1) + 1 = 0 is to say +1 = +1. Christ Jesus never had aspirations to be equal to his Father.
Instead when on earth Jesus asked his Father to give him the glory that he had before when he returned to heaven on the clouds.

Quite possibly a person in math class a long time ago wanted to introduce negative numbers with -1 + 1 = 0 and discover zero at the same time. To claim the position as -1 would make one equal to God and a sharer in making number 2 if God was once 1 all alone. This would muddle the truth about creation and no doubt be offensive if it occurred at all.

Negative numbers and zero are the mathematical works of men not that long ago. Euler promoted i^2 = -1 if I am not mistaken. Simply changing a quantity x^2 to an imaginary number i^2 might not appease the authority in the heavens since the square root of i^2 is i = sqrt -1 in a foundation of order like -1 = +1 because of the truth behind x^2 + 1 = 0 in the light of
x^3 - 2x^2 = 1 making "i" a mathematical lie it seems.

Imagine if I were equal to you LORD. It is not unthinkable that a person proud of his discoveries may have thought like that. Who knows?.

Can a bridge be built over the Avon River without the use of complex numbers?
Just a little something that i have imagined from time to time.
Perhaps if God be willing.

[PJS]

Some simple math. "i^2 = -1"

x^2 + 1 = 0 then x^2 = -1. When x =-1 also then x^2 = +1. Then -1 = +1. Or x^2 = x^2. Taking -1 across the equal sign then +1 + 1 = 2. This would be three entities in the beginning when John 1:1 speaks of only two entities and the second entity number 2 got its start from number 1 when using numbers to illustrate positions.

To say that x^2 as (-1) + 1 = 0 is to say +1 = +1. Christ Jesus never had aspirations to be equal to his Father.
Instead when on earth Jesus asked his Father to give him the glory that he had before when he returned to heaven on the clouds.

Quite possibly a person in math class a long time ago wanted to introduce negative numbers with -1 + 1 = 0 and discover zero at the same time. To claim the position as -1 would make one equal to God and a sharer in making number 2 if God was once 1 all alone. This would muddle the truth about creation and no doubt be offensive if it occurred at all.

Negative numbers and zero are the mathematical works of men not that long ago. Euler promoted i^2 = -1 if I am not mistaken. Simply changing a quantity x^2 to an imaginary number i^2 might not appease the authority in the heavens since the square root of i^2 is i = sqrt -1 in a foundation of order like -1 = +1 because of the truth behind x^2 + 1 = 0 in the light of
x^3 - 2x^2 = 1 making "i" a mathematical lie it seems.

Imagine if I were equal to you LORD. It is not unthinkable that a person proud of his discoveries may have thought like that. Who knows?.

Can a bridge be built over the Avon River without the use of complex numbers?
Just a little something that i have imagined from time to time.
Perhaps if God be willing.

So by positions then 1 and 2 make 3. Thus as the fruitage of the spirit is concerned we have Love and Joy then Peace.
But 1 and 1 and 1 make 3 as well. Is 3 a self made Triune God leaving his natural beginning from 1 and 2. What we do notice is that the world severely lacks peace and unity.

Did the creator of i^2 = -1 become the Father of the lie introducing negative numbers in a disorderly way in the heavens?
Then i^2 as -1 would be -1 + 1 = 0 or The True God's equal.
x^2 + 1 = 0 leads to chaos or -1 = +1 instead of order which would be -1 = -1 and +1 = +1.
The square root of i^2 would be in the order of -1 = +1 and be operating as chaos within the system of order as i^2 + 1 = 0..
Father cannot lie but the new Triune God could. Father of the lie perhaps.

1 and 2 could have made 3 the peaceful Covering Cherub over the earth. It is not unthinkable. Since there is a Father and Firstborn Son then the dreaming Truine God could think of himself as the "Holy Ghost" in person form that would talk to lowly people within them to make them think that they were having a personal relationship with God in order (i^2 + 1 = 0) to indirectly get their worship. Thus the Trinity would have three equal persons to be taught as God. What a lie if this line of reasoning is true compared to what the Bible teaches!

Further, that Covering Cherub could have become covetous of the man and allowed his mind to imagine what it would be like if she were not Adam's wife but his woman. She was already married and had also unfulfilled financial capabilities as a model of a perfect capable wife would have. This covetous thinking if it took place would cause fornication and an injustice of the sales goods that go back to the Garden of Eden as Ezekiel brings out in the Bible quite possibly. The math is -1 = 24 - 25. Negative 1 here is not meant to be i^2. See the confusion already with the use of -1 and who may be trying to be equal to Father?

But the Bible does not directly say who the speaker was behind the serpent or what his motives were as it talked to the woman..

The lies had to start somehow perhaps. Who is God that spoke to Adam and the woman at Genesis 1:28-29?
Was it YHWH or THE Word of God or the Triune God Eloah or some other God? Remember: It came to be so which seems to be the narrative again and later some God said that everything was very good and then the 6th day ended and the rest day started.

[Joesus]

If there are higher beings on the earth from other places why do you think that they are necessarily honest?

Could they not fool simple men with their higher intelligence and ability to direct a person's thoughts into thinking that God was dealing with them personally?. Satan entered into Judas and then he betrayed Jesus. Satan incited David to take a census of the people of Isreal against the direction of Jehovah.

You are a hoot. You take one thing and make it into something else. Your mind is filled with superstition. The same kind of superstition described amongst Moses' followers, and where Moses had to give them a story that they could believe in because of their superstition....

IF you are going to use the term "HIGHER BEING" then I take it from what you have just written, (and just as humans assume God has all the emotional baggage that humans do) that a HIGHER BEING would be just like a normal human being with all the baggage only smarter technologically, or what? What does the term HIGHER BEING mean to you? Why would you immediately assume a person of higher being lies or could lie? Is it because you believe in Satan as a Higher being?

This demonstrates the point that Satan lives and tries to get worship for himself from individuals as the temptation by Satan to Jesus on the unusually high mountain tells us.

Mmmm.... NO! Absolutely not! You just demonstrated how a person takes one thought into his own beliefs in superstition and fear. Satan is a word for the ego. It in itself is not a person, but rather a psychologically developed part of the human psyche. A model the personality identifies with. Something that feeds on fear like a dog, and as long as you feed it, it will bark at you and demand more from you.

How do you know Joesus that Satan isn't fooling you into following him? Jesus never had a demon control his mind or heart. He made known that the ruler of the world was coming at the time he spoke and that this one had no hold on him (Jesus).

Jesus made it known that he had ascended the attachments to fear and the illusions of the ego. He spoke of the ego and his superstitious followers believed it was an independent personality just as they believed God was.

As a witness of YHWH Jesus made known God's name in public from door to door. His faith was that the kingdom of the heavens had drawn near. Today YHWH witnesses know that Jesus is ruling in that Kingdom with power in the midst of his enemies.

The name of God or the word of God as Jesus taught it was the word and actions of a mind in union with God. The enlightened individual.

What is your faith Joesus? Without faith you cannot serve God well. Who is God in your mind?.

People have faith in a lot of things, their dog, their government, their idea that money will solve their problems. At least they have an experience in who or what their dog or government or money can do. Religious faith without the direct cognitive experience of God is empty. History will speak of how many times religious faith is lost, because it is wrapped around an image created in the minds of man who don't have the experience of what it is they are putting their faith in. You put your faith in what you think is said in the Bible, but you have not shown anyone here that you really know what is in the bible. You can repeat scripture as it is written and spew out your superstitious ideas based on what you have been told and believe, but your God is a jealous God and a vengeful God who picks favorites out of all he is supposed to be a parent to.

Human parents have more compassion for their children than the God religion has created.

Your faith is in fear and liberation from something that stands outside of your own making and yet you can't see that you are making God what you want God to be thru your own belief.

My Faith is in the absolute as I experience it in everything. Build a tangible relationship with it and you will find it more forgiving than you can believe, and you may be able to forgive yourself without having to wait for death to be forgiven.

You can spend your life waiting to be forgiven and to be freed from your personally created hell so that you can live in an imagined afterlife or God created paradise if you want to, but you will miss heaven on earth as it is right now and a relationship with God on earth that is superior to that which is based on fear.

.. the Bible does not directly say who the speaker was behind the serpent or what his motives were as it talked to the woman..

The lies had to start somehow perhaps. Who is God that spoke to Adam and the woman at Genesis 1:28-29?
Was it YHWH or THE Word of God or the Triune God Eloah or some other God? Remember: It came to be so which seems to be the narrative again and later some God said that everything was very good and then the 6th day ended and the rest day started.

The lies are simply ignorant interpretations of reality.

Who said Adam and Eve are exclusive to Planet Earth?

[PJS]

In the heavens God first created an Archangel Michael and then the two of them together created all the other angels who were the Spirit Sons of God. Then God created the earth.

Man, Jesus said is just a little lower than angels. Satan keeps changing himself into an angel of light and his ministers will be judged by their works the Bible indicates. Satan is a higher being than man. Man cannot turn himself into an angel. Satan is a resistor of God's kingdom and the Good News. Jesus told Satan to get behind him.

You say that Satan represents the ego? Why do you keep on insisting answers that are not found in the Bible?
You try to make followers out of others to your way of thinking. Joesus way. You do not recommend preaching at doors like Jesus directed his followers to do. Jesus sheep know him. You are a stranger to the flock.

My post 164 kindly gives an answer from the Bible who God is by name.
http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20953&st=150

You have not revealed God's name other than Eloah in the singular. If that Triune God spoke Genesis 1:28-29 then he lied about the blessing of the fruit tree food allowance new command and you as an advocate of the Trinity follow a liar. Satan did not stand fast to the truth. He is the Father of the lie. God is not three equal God's in one. 1 + 2 = 3 in the creative scheme of things.

How did Adam and Eve travel from earth?

Who is ruling? Father of the truth or Father of the Lie?
Jehovah the God of True Prophesy and Order or Eloah the Triune God of Destiny and Chaos?

Who will take the lead?

-1 + 1 = 0 in Orderly numbers but i^2 + 1 = 0 is possibly an issue of who is God's equal. Jesus died as a perfect man as a reply to Satan the Father of the lie over which God would Jesus serve? Jesus chose his Father and made his name known door to door before he died faithfully to YHWH.

Who is the God that is the one speaking at Genesis 1:28-29? How did the serpent lie?

[Joesus]

You say that Satan represents the ego? Why do you keep on insisting answers that are not found in the Bible?

Because there is a lot of information that was taught by Jesus that was omitted from the Bible. Why make a law book out of incomplete information?

You try to make followers out of others to your way of thinking. Joesus way.

That'd be your belief

You do not recommend preaching at doors like Jesus directed his followers to do. Jesus sheep know him. You are a stranger to the flock.

Jesus didn't make sheep of his disciples.
I don't recommend bad interpretations of Biblical references. Jesus taught his disciples and then told them to go teach. He didn't teach the JW's. Instead the JW's wrote their own Bible and then slapped a bumper sticker on it saying WWJD (What would Jesus do) and then assumed everyone should come around to their way of thinking.

My post 164 kindly gives an answer from the Bible who God is by name.
http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20953&st=150

An illusion by any name is still an illusion even when projected in the kindest manner.

You have not revealed God's name other than Eloah in the singular.

I don't believe I offered you any name that would box God into a single idea or definition.

How did Adam and Eve travel from earth?

So you think there is only one adam and eve and the center of the universe and all life is earth?

Who is ruling? Father of the truth or Father of the Lie?

Ruling in what way? God does not take the position of deity or ruler. Man assumes that title and position for God.

Jesus died as a perfect man as a reply to Satan the Father of the lie over which God would Jesus serve? Jesus chose his Father and made his name known door to door before he died faithfully to YHWH.

You got that from a book.

Who is the God that is the one speaking at Genesis 1:28-29? How did the serpent lie?

You keep asking that question, and without really listening for an answer continue to delude yourself with a digest of paragraphs that someone else deciphered for you.

[correlli]

You say that Satan represents the ego? Why do you keep on insisting answers that are not found in the Bible?

Because there is a lot of information that was taught by Jesus that was omitted from the Bible. Why make a law book out of incomplete information?

You try to make followers out of others to your way of thinking. Joesus way.

That'd be your belief

You do not recommend preaching at doors like Jesus directed his followers to do. Jesus sheep know him. You are a stranger to the flock.

Jesus didn't make sheep of his disciples.
I don't recommend bad interpretations of Biblical references. Jesus taught his disciples and then told them to go teach. He didn't teach the JW's. Instead the JW's wrote their own Bible and then slapped a bumper sticker on it saying WWJD (What would Jesus do) and then assumed everyone should come around to their way of thinking.

My post 164 kindly gives an answer from the Bible who God is by name.
http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20953&st=150

An illusion by any name is still an illusion even when projected in the kindest manner.

You have not revealed God's name other than Eloah in the singular.

I don't believe I offered you any name that would box God into a single idea or definition.

How did Adam and Eve travel from earth?

So you think there is only one adam and eve and the center of the universe and all life is earth?

Who is ruling? Father of the truth or Father of the Lie?

Ruling in what way? God does not take the position of deity or ruler. Man assumes that title and position for God.

Jesus died as a perfect man as a reply to Satan the Father of the lie over which God would Jesus serve? Jesus chose his Father and made his name known door to door before he died faithfully to YHWH.

You got that from a book.

Who is the God that is the one speaking at Genesis 1:28-29? How did the serpent lie?

You keep asking that question, and without really listening for an answer continue to delude yourself with a digest of paragraphs that someone else deciphered for you.

You made another list. why do you do that, thet dividing thing you do?

[P.j.S]

Who is God is the question. The Bible answers that Jehovah is the Most High over all the earth. The earth is the home where people dwell. Jehovah is the God and Creator of people. He made Adam from the dust of the Earth and He made woman from the man"s rib.

But this information does still not reveal who the speaker is in Genesis 1:28-29 who gave the new command about the fruit trees to the first man and woman.

Some here have given long replies in what seems to be a contest of who knows more but have not revealed a specific name of the person speaking in that specific scripture as God.

No one seems to know for sure who the speaker is. Post 125 outlines a few options. http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20953&st=180

Post 164 suggests from the Bible who God is over all if He should be the one found to be the person speaking as God in Genesis 1:28-29.

[Joesus]

The Bible written recently by the Jehovah's witnesses, might reference the name Jehovah as a name used by humans that are prone to collect concepts and put those concepts into a word.
The bible does not answer questions. People pose questions, and by their nature of supposition, imagination, identification and need for self validation assume the answers. A book does not, in and of itself, answer questions.

Thru personal determination, thoughts are shared, beliefs are made, and mind expands upon those thoughts... or mind builds a castle around a collection of thoughts that are belief and moves no further.


Some people believe in ideas like Jesus or Buddha coming to some kind of finality in their lives. This kind of belief is wrapped around the idea that God is something but cannot be more than what the mind imagines. So the mind often imagines a finality to human evolution, an end where growth and experience stops.

Religions created by the imagination of man who does not have an ongoing experience of the perfection of God in all things divides the world into opposites, good and evil, God and Satan, always separating God from what personality does not understand or fears. The biggest fear is of course losing the grip one has on ones identity with self and the world around them. IF one cannot put everything into definitions one has no ground to stand upon. As such man progresses in belief a little every thousand years but still clings to the idea of an end to creation, human experience and a boundary around the universe and God.

The resurrection in the bible symbolizes the idea that man exists or can exist beyond the physical limits of mortality and death.
Sin is simple ignorance. Demonstration, as was exemplified in the crucifixion and resurrection, testimony to an idea bigger than the current belief system.

What Jesus proposed to his disciples, was to unlearn the identity with mortality and boundaries of belief. His demonstrations in life were to stretch the mind of mortal man, but unfortunately psychological overload was the seed that gave way to religious beliefs, dogma and a finality in mans evolution.

[PJS]

Many people living today take the Bible seriously to be God's Word.

God is the title of the speaker found giving the blessing to the man and woman in Genesis 1:28-29.

Who could God be quoted here and why is this important?

How did Adam and his wife sin in paradise? What was the lie of the serpent?

Why did God throw the creation into futility after his blessing mankind?

Some new meaning may be found at Post 125 of this discussion : Honor Your Father and Your Mother
http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20953&st=120

[P.j.S]

Many people living today take the Bible seriously to be God's Word.

God is the title of the speaker found giving the blessing to the man and woman in Genesis 1:28-29.

Who could God be quoted here and why is this important?

How did Adam and his wife sin in paradise? What was the lie of the serpent?

Why did God throw the creation into futility after his blessing mankind?

Some new meaning may be found at Post 125 of this discussion : Honor Your Father and Your Mother
http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20953&st=120

Did God know that Adam and the woman would Sin? What sin?

God successfully blessed them and gave them their new food allowances at Genesis 1:28-29 near the end of the sixth day. They could eat from every fruit that was good for food. On the 7th day the woman saw that the tree of knowledge of good and bad was good for food and she ate and later so did her husband.

What was the sin?

[Joesus]

What was the sin?

Ignoring truth for illusion.
Assuming a belief based on something other than direct experience.
Buying into knowledge created from ignorance.
Acting on an idea that has no reality.

Separation from God in the idea that God is something outside of ones self and not inside of ones self always present within all thought feeling and action.

[PJS]

Many people living today take the Bible seriously to be God's Word.

God is the title of the speaker found giving the blessing to the man and woman in Genesis 1:28-29.

Who could God be quoted here and why is this important?

How did Adam and his wife sin in paradise? What was the lie of the serpent?

Why did God throw the creation into futility after his blessing mankind?

Some new meaning may be found at Post 125 of this discussion : Honor Your Father and Your Mother
http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20953&st=120

Did God know that Adam and the woman would Sin? What sin?

God successfully blessed them and gave them their new food allowances at Genesis 1:28-29 near the end of the sixth day. They could eat from every fruit that was good for food. On the 7th day the woman saw that the tree of knowledge of good and bad was good for food and she ate and later so did her husband.

What was the sin?

The question is not where God can be found but Who is God?

The LORD God made Adam and sentenced him to death later. But who is God who said the blessing to the man and woman at Genesis 1:28-29 found in the Bible to the married couple near the end of the sixth day??

[Joesus]

The question is not where God can be found but Who is God?

God is not a who, and the question was: "What was the sin"...

The LORD God made Adam and sentenced him to death later. But who is God who said the blessing to the man and woman at Genesis 1:28-29 found in the Bible to the married couple near the end of the sixth day??

Bull pucky. Religious nonsense. You would first have to know what was said in order to know who said what.

The following is a poor translation of Genesis from the King James bible.
The Jehovah's Witnesses Bible is even more bizarre than the King James bible

Genesis 1:28-29
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

[PJS]

The question is not where God can be found but Who is God?

God is not a who, and the question was: "What was the sin"...

The LORD God made Adam and sentenced him to death later. But who is God who said the blessing to the man and woman at Genesis 1:28-29 found in the Bible to the married couple near the end of the sixth day??

Bull pucky. Religious nonsense. You would first have to know what was said in order to know who said what.

The following is a poor translation of Genesis from the King James bible.
The Jehovah's Witnesses Bible is even more bizarre than the King James bible

Genesis 1:28-29
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Thank-you for quoting the scripture.

Later on in chapter 3:6 the narrative shows that the woman saw that the tree was good for food. This was on the next day. How did her and her husband sin by eating of this tree in question. Even the King James Bible that you just used showed that they now had permission to eat from every tree in which there is the fruit of a tree yielding seed. That was near the end of the sixth day.

Who is God giving the blessing?

[Joesus]

Gen. 3:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

The reference to food is an inferior translation. The idea refers to making the manifest real when the spirit is seen as secondary or the result of death, rather than the primary substance which maintains the manifest.
To the relative beliefs of the ego the manifest is appealing to the level of the outward going senses, but when all the attention of the senses are attached to the relative and the spirit is ignored, true life of immortality is forgotten and the temporary manifestation of the body is witnessed as a dying organism from its birth.

The voice of spirit speaks to man/woman in the relative. It is the voice that speaks for God which is within the relative but not bound or contained by the relative. It is said that the human ear which when bound by the relative realities in identification of the flesh cannot hear God, and that the voice of God would destroy the human image.
In one sense this is true, for if the senses where to open to the subtle, all attachments to the relative would be shaken for the greater reality of spirit would destroy the illusions of duality or the knowledge that comes from the tree of good and evil.

The tree represents the human nervous system which is ultimately flexible to extend itself in either direction. It can reach infinitely inward into spirit and the realm of god or go outward into the gross or dense reality of the manifest and into the darkest corners of fear and ignorance. Choice was imbued within the creative aspects of human physiology and the psyche of human personality, and it has no limits other than those which are self imposed.
Those who have taken the senses inward have been able to interpret scripture at a level that the waking state mind has only been able to take into religious drama and superstition.
The reality in this is that religion can only imagine God and make promises to a heaven that follows death and the illusions of a command issued by a supreme creator that is limited to the same emotional baggage that binds humanity into beliefs of fear and death.
The spiritually enlightened have instead brought the meaning of heaven into life rather than an afterlife.

The human has a choice to believe they are flawed at birth, and commanded to live in fear of a repressive father/creator or to awaken to the God within themselves and achieve liberation from fear in the true meaning of life.

To sin means to live in illusion or ignorance separate from the reality of a loving God that has no issues with his children who are learning and discovering themselves.

To believe a parent/God would punish their child for stumbling while learning to walk would be ignorance and tantamount to sin. Sin is not an evil, it is just ignorance, and ignorance has its repercussions in the light of truth, simply because if you cannot see something you do not gain the benefits of what is in front of you when you don't make use of what is potentially available because of blindness.

[Dianah]

The question is not where God can be found but Who is God?

God is not a who, and the question was: "What was the sin"...

The LORD God made Adam and sentenced him to death later. But who is God who said the blessing to the man and woman at Genesis 1:28-29 found in the Bible to the married couple near the end of the sixth day??

Bull pucky. Religious nonsense. You would first have to know what was said in order to know who said what.

The following is a poor translation of Genesis from the King James bible.
The Jehovah's Witnesses Bible is even more bizarre than the King James bible

Genesis 1:28-29
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Thank-you for quoting the scripture.

Later on in chapter 3:6 the narrative shows that the woman saw that the tree was good for food. This was on the next day. How did her and her husband sin by eating of this tree in question. Even the King James Bible that you just used showed that they now had permission to eat from every tree in which there is the fruit of a tree yielding seed. That was near the end of the sixth day.

Who is God giving the blessing?

So by positions then 1 and 2 make 3. Thus as the fruitage of the spirit is concerned we have Love and Joy then Peace.
But 1 and 1 and 1 make 3 as well. Is 3 a self made Triune God leaving his natural beginning from 1 and 2. What we do notice is that the world severely lacks peace and unity.

PJS

If we look at the subjective essence of numbers rather then as an objective telling a different understanding can be found.

The number 1 being a sense of existing individually without the concept of; I AM THAT…but simply I AM. Consciousness in abstract form. The garden of Eden.

Number 2 being the sensing of movement. Polarity. An imaginary canvas for consciousness to shift attention from I AM to I AM THAT. The tree of knowledge…the offering of the apple (wisdom) via the snake (spirit)…intensifying (solidifying) form in which to create upon the canvas infinite dimension of realities.

Number 3 being the sensing of creation. I AM (light/absolute or pure intelligence) + I AM THAT (dark/unlimited potential in which to create) = the number 2 or shadow + self identification = 3, the child or creative field. 1 + 1 dances with itself, the dance is dreaming or imagination and as the child…or that which was begotten through I AM creating objective form through I AM THAT. I AM, the sense of being, entering into form, I AM THAT (self identification) begets REASONING THOUGHT or that which dances upon BEING.

0 is everywhere and nowhere at once…it is not positive or negative yet it is as the womb (polarity) for consciousness to dance WITHIN to bring forth the WISDOM of all that IS NOT in order to UNDERSTAND all that IS.

There are infinite dimensions in the expression of the dance…there is no me, there is no you, there is no God, there is no hierarchy there is only consciousness in expression through a sense of being (singularity/garden of Eden) and through a sense of self identification (ego/physical reality)…yet, there is a me and there is a you, there is a God there is a Hierarchy…and through the experience of self identification (objectivity) consciousness expands without expanding.

There is no lie, there is no sin, there is no Father or Mother, they are only concepts hinting at our inner nature through their subjective essence. Yet they exists within objectivity.

There are many levels of consciousness, each exists within their own reality, each are as a stroke of a brush upon a canvas creating complexity. Its all one essence in the expression of unlimited potential.

What we experience or perceive at one conscious level has endless levels below and above it…there is no finality, there are no answers to anything, there is only the experience of life/consciousness. There are no deceiving Gods, no sin, no lies, yet there are…if one moves within that level of consciousness.

With that said; within this conscious reality there is a great force implementing deceit and manipulation, shift your consciousness to a rung above that and one can experience the manipulators, shift your consciousness to a rung above that, and you will only see the dance of energies/consciousness. Shift your consciousness to the rung above and one will see the Garden…and so forth.

All IS being NOW.

Seems to me that you are trying to prove a God and God’s intent or an evil God and its intent…which cannot be done whilst in the objective mind set. What ever God may or may not be can only be known KNOWINGLY through the inner nature of ones being.

By the way, we are in the Garden of Eden, we have never left it…its beauty is everywhere, from the subtle fluttering of a butterflies wings, to the perfume of flower, the song of birds, the nightly chirping of katydids…nature flows within singularity, we have just closed our eyes to it…fallen asleep to it, and within a dream of believing we have separated from it.

[P.j.S]

The question is not where God can be found but Who is God?

God is not a who, and the question was: "What was the sin"...

The LORD God made Adam and sentenced him to death later. But who is God who said the blessing to the man and woman at Genesis 1:28-29 found in the Bible to the married couple near the end of the sixth day??

Bull pucky. Religious nonsense. You would first have to know what was said in order to know who said what.

The following is a poor translation of Genesis from the King James bible.
The Jehovah's Witnesses Bible is even more bizarre than the King James bible

Genesis 1:28-29
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

This was at the end of the sixth day that the blessing was given.

The serpent spoke in God's strength on the seventh day to the woman that she positively will not die if she ate from the tree that the narrative even says was good for food.

Who is The God that gave the blessing? Is it the first born Son of God in the heavens or someone else? Was it the LORD God himself?

Consider other thoughts along these lines at post 125.
http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20953&st=120

[Joesus]

consider post #126 on the same page.

[Magister Hayk]

An imaginary canvas for consciousness to shift attention from I AM to I AM THAT.

I think you should not underestimate Mr. I AM, I learned about that from posts of Mr. Enki on Brain Meta:

OMEGA
EGOMA
EGOWA (M rotates to W)

and recently discovered for me this interesting regularity:

I Am moneY
Yenom I Am
YehomA (where I+n=h and m is the joining key)
Yehowa (where m is rotated into w, and where w looks as Greek Omega mentioned above).

The word THAT is quite important in view of the above mentioned interesting and extrimly obvious regularities.

There are two nice songs on You Tube over word Money,
Search in YouTube for:
1. Abba - Money, Money, Money
2. "Money" - Liza Minnelli, Joel Grey

So those who in Anglo-Saxon World pray to Money in fact they pray to ... Very smart is not it?

[Magister Hayk]

By the way, we are in the Garden of Eden, we have never left it…its beauty is everywhere, from the subtle fluttering of a butterflies wings, to the perfume of flower, the song of birds, the nightly chirping of katydids…nature flows within singularity, we have just closed our eyes to it…fallen asleep to it, and within a dream of believing we have separated from it.

Very interesting Madam.

So are we in some sort of Inception movie like reality?

[Magister Hayk]

Btw visually compare these two words:

God
Gold

[Magister Hayk]

In view of that consider Megamind movie, where when Megamind takes over the Metrosity (Mitra city) he starts happily to play with money with his minion as he starts to control all the Money of the Metrosity (Mitra city).

So even this "semi-Gnostic" outlook in this movie shows how it is important WHO controls the protocol of the Name in the Matrix. So coming back to my previous note about the Money, the world THAT matters a lot in this world.

While the Supernatural movie tells us that God lives somewhere on earth and is not on heaven. Who knows maybe that explains why things are so uncertain, maybe the one who is in charge instead Him is not quite a competent manager or has some sort of limited abilities or strict principles to meet to or something else? That reminded me a passage from the Old Testament "because the Lord lives and walks among you".

Anyway it is an interesting issue.

[P.j.S]

consider post #125 on the same page.

http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20953&st=120 Post 125.

[Joesus]

consider post #126 on the same page.

http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20953&st=120 Post 126.

[Dianah]

By the way, we are in the Garden of Eden, we have never left it…its beauty is everywhere, from the subtle fluttering of a butterflies wings, to the perfume of flower, the song of birds, the nightly chirping of katydids…nature flows within singularity, we have just closed our eyes to it…fallen asleep to it, and within a dream of believing we have separated from it.

Very interesting Madam.

So are we in some sort of Inception movie like reality?

But of course!

We move from one dream to the next through our structures of beliefs that are contingent upon our experiences.

[Dianah]

Btw visually compare these two words:

God
Gold

Gold has been equated with God for a very long time don't you think? Those who dictate civilized man however have blurred the symbolism, equating money as God, and consuming as the action to happiness and of course (consuming/and aquiring money) as the (subconscious) means to get closer to God.

People really need to unplug from the outer stimuli and plugin to their inner being...and dream their own dreams and not what is being subtly dictated to them. Just like in the movie Inception...you cannot make anyone do anything against their belief systems...unless of course you change their beliefs...which is the intent of those who dictate civilized man via mind numbing, repetative and subconscious triggering in mass media....Inception was a very good movie with a very important message.

[Magister Hayk]

Btw visually compare these two words:

God
Gold

Gold has been equated with God for a very long time don't you think? Those who dictate civilized man however have blurred the symbolism, equating money as God, and consuming as the action to happiness and of course (consuming/and aquiring money) as the (subconscious) means to get closer to God.

People really need to unplug from the outer stimuli and plugin to their inner being...and dream their own dreams and not what is being subtly dictated to them. Just like in the movie Inception...you cannot make anyone do anything against their belief systems...unless of course you change their beliefs...which is the intent of those who dictate civilized man via mind numbing, repetative and subconscious triggering in mass media....Inception was a very good movie with a very important message.

Indeed Gold is Gold and the 'equation' I uncovered above related with the word Money indicates that the "Megamind cjsc" invented an interesting technology of how to control a vast majority of people by simple plugging (connecting) their brains to the Name of the regulating organization.

I agree with you that people should not without consideration to listen what is dictated to them. But at the same time is there room for choice under such a strict supervision, THAT is the question? On the other hand who knows, maybe without the control of the Name the human race may decompose and that may lead to significant drop of the mental activities of vast majority of Earth's population, in that view the management technologies of the "Megamind cjsc" mentioned above are useful and moreover necessary or even vitally necessary for sustenance of the Matrix.

Maybe there is a big plan of development (world ordering project) where the plugging process to the protocol of the Name is an element of that plan. E.g. look what JW are doing in fact (?): they are delivering the protocol of the Name (under watchful guidance of the Watching Tower) to the brains of all people around the world, from cybernetic point of view it is quite useful technology; besides THAT the knowledge of word Money is widespread all round the world by now, all beginners who learn English memorize that word at the initial stage of the language learning, while the other word I quoted above as deciphering hint is an element of rudimentary education in Physics and Mathematics in our days and appears in various forms on watches and in computer games all around the world, thus in its turn proactively serving the plug in process.

[Magister Hayk]

Now coming back to the question of this topic: "Then who is God?",

I should assume that the cybernetic (phantom in our human view) being controlling the above mentioned Base Protocol of the Name may present oneself to the most of the humans as someone called God, but in fact the protocol can be controlled by an array of beings of the same cybernetic (phantom) nature, which (the array) in pagan tradition was probably called Pantheon of Gods, while the dominating being among them may call oneself the Supreme God. I should also suppose that in time the Protocol may go under control of other beings as a result of Wars among the Gods, but Who created the initial Protocol is a big question and it is a big question Who Really The True God. The barbaric history of mankind and widespread cruelties permit to assume that maybe there was a period of time when some Protocols of the Name or Names have been controlled by a Pantheon of Vampires (sorry for using this particular terminology) utilizing humans as energizing bottles for their cybernetic parasitical existence over fears and spiritual vibrations (so to say) of humans. Certainly some people hope that one day the Super Protocol shall be controlled by the Good Lord who shall one day return from some more upper reality. The Return of the King project/hopes were well advertised in English literature.

In anyway it is an interesting topic of scientific research.

[Magister Hayk]

By the way, we are in the Garden of Eden, we have never left it…its beauty is everywhere, from the subtle fluttering of a butterflies wings, to the perfume of flower, the song of birds, the nightly chirping of katydids…nature flows within singularity, we have just closed our eyes to it…fallen asleep to it, and within a dream of believing we have separated from it.

Very interesting Madam.

So are we in some sort of Inception movie like reality?

But of course!

We move from one dream to the next through our structures of beliefs that are contingent upon our experiences.

Please note that in Inception movie a term Architect is used, in that view somewhere there in the Inception reality there can be a Grand Architect (or Grand Architects) too: the one or some few who impart to all some sort of dominating reality, I mean that there is a Dominating Dream among multitude of dreams, so His/Her/Their grand fairy tale can be present in a cryptic form in the fairy tales of the others.