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post Jul 31, 2012, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(Joesus @ Jul 30, 2012, 06:20 PM) *

New Bible translation has screenplay format

http://news.yahoo.com/bible-translation-sc...-085746946.html

Eve said the serpent tricked her showing that she was deceived since serpents can't talk on their own.

But what about Genesis 1:28-29. Does the new bible say who the God that is speaking the blessing is?

Even so the fact that God punished Adam shows that He lied about Gen. 1:28-29.

To learn more about what happened because of God's irrationality please read the latest comments from this link:

http://creativepi.multiply.com/notes/item/4 After reading this do you Joesus still accuse me of having no experience with God? Perhaps now you can consider your own ego instead of mine.
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post Jul 31, 2012, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(P JayS @ Jul 31, 2012, 05:32 PM) *

After reading this do you Joesus still accuse me of having no experience with God?

I probably should rephrase the comment. Everyone has an experience of God. It permeates all of reality. It's just that some divide reality into what is and isn't God to feed the ego's perceptions of pleasant realities within the human boundaries of self identification.
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Perhaps now you can consider your own ego instead of mine.

To what purpose?
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post Aug 01, 2012, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(Joesus @ Jul 31, 2012, 05:43 PM) *

QUOTE(P JayS @ Jul 31, 2012, 05:32 PM) *

After reading this do you Joesus still accuse me of having no experience with God?

I probably should rephrase the comment. Everyone has an experience of God. It permeates all of reality. It's just that some divide reality into what is and isn't God to feed the ego's perceptions of pleasant realities within the human boundaries of self identification.
QUOTE(P JayS @ Jul 31, 2012, 05:32 PM) *

Perhaps now you can consider your own ego instead of mine.

To what purpose?

For the purpose of being truly happy.

In the realization that should you as an older man die before Jesus Christ comes to the United Nations that he (Jesus Christ) will cause you to live again in a new younger and perfectly healthy body as a man with your spirit intact.

This knowledge that you can live again as a man should you die should cause you to have great peace. It may be your Ego that prevents you from beleiving this basic truth of God. You have lived in a time when the Original Serpent has argued with God and they together have influenced and tempered the lives of people living then caught between good and evil.

Try letting the old Ego go and embrace a happy future as a man with God and the Original Serpent having solved their differences. Happiness Reigns Supremely now. The difference between God and His creation has been established. God is living now in a state of contentment. He is not angry with people anymore just disappointed in some of the things they do which He will bring to an end soon.

Soon mankind which is presently lagging morally will be made perfect and happy by Father's Kingdom rule by Christ Jesus as the man of Father becomes a manifestation to the people of this world. God is going to make of his goodness a man of Himself to live on a peaceful earth forever with mankind and God's other creative works. The totality of God will not be made man, just His Goodness.

At that time everything will be made conscious of God in its own way since everything is from the thought of God originally which is alive. This will occur when Happiness reigns completely.

This information should make you very happy Joesus. More happy than you are presently in this specific place in time in your life.

Father is greater than the Son Jesus Christ who is greater than I am.

Everlasting life is an exceedingly long time to be happy when death is no more.
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post Aug 01, 2012, 03:29 PM
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Oh..., you mean become a Jehovah's witness! dry.gif sad.gif My ego is probably not going join you in such a perspective. My experience of God would have to devolve a bit to meet your definitions of God.
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post Aug 02, 2012, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(Joesus @ Aug 01, 2012, 03:29 PM) *

Oh..., you mean become a Jehovah's witness! dry.gif sad.gif My ego is probably not going join you in such a perspective. My experience of God would have to devolve a bit to meet your definitions of God.

I have read much of your material. But what do you think makes God happy?. I fear that you do not know.
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post Aug 03, 2012, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(P JayS @ Aug 02, 2012, 05:32 PM) *

I have read much of your material. But what do you think makes God happy?. I fear that you do not know.

Your fear prevents a larger experience of God.

God is not dependent on anything for Happiness. God is not codependent nor is God a personality bound by your emotional attachments. God is much bigger than your ideas based on the most recent translations of the scripture which became your bible. God is bigger than a book and cannot be defined or contained by words or any book, no matter how popular the book.

Eastern scripture (of which western is a derivative) has a Vedic library containing thousands of books regarding God and the experience of God. All of which are much older than the Bible, and of which mirror some of the ancient Hebrew and Egyptian Texts regarding Consciousness and God.
None of them dictate what God is or wants. They only point toward the idea of experiencing God as did Jesus and every other Master who had witnessed God, thru Consciousness. All of scripture is influenced by the teachings of Hermes Trismegistus, a sage who preceded the Egyptian culture. His teachings are reflected in all scripture, Egyptian, Hebraic, Islamic, Oriental and the current Judeo Christian transliterations which became the verbiage of your current JW Bible.
All scripture speaks of the immortal soul as supreme, not the mortal body which is simply an image of the soul. The image has purpose and is created exactly as it is for what it does. Superstitious man has come up with all kinds of ideas about what God had or has in mind for himself, pretty much all of it has been doom and gloom for the mortal body and an idea of glory for the soul after the death of the body. All histories have been testimony to the separation between ideals and the wars have been evidence for mans shortsightedness. Every religion simply perpetuates the divisions in cause and effect and are full of remedies to God's creation because every religion is created by the ego of man that finds no perfection in Gods creation other than to see it as perfectly flawed. Created by a God, and flawed to a purpose so that mortal man can find a solution to the flaw God created.

The distortions of consciousness are in the attachment to the material images being larger or more real than the un-manifest consciousness which precedes all manifestations.
Science is even now accepting that the emptiness of Space is not empty but full. That Fullness is ever pervasive and without the binding rules that the ego wants to confine itself to in the determination of self or what self is created from or by.

Just as a parent would love his or her child no matter what the child thinks of himself or believes in separation of differing opinions, God is much larger than any parent child relationship bound by the belief systems of human appearances, and any delusions of permanence the ego creates regarding religion and the relationship to the immortal soul.

Jesus was called "Christ" which is a word for one who is conscious or anointed with the stick (universal mind) of knowledge. He taught that all men and women had equal footing in Gods eyes, and that all distortions of relationship were simply illusions of the ego. He also taught that the discipline necessary to correct the vision, or distortions in the relationship with God and the illusions of mortality, were thru the transmutation of the ego toward the spiritual rather than the temporary material world. All distortions can be easily corrected when man realizes he is not his or her body.

When Jesus claimed "thru me ye can know God" it was thru his Christed consciousness which is one in all and one with all. The superstitious believed he meant thru the man, and focus on the image.

Religion has distorted this idea to imagine a God created in Man's image. One with fears, likes, dislikes, anger, frustration etc. All of the emotional baggage that man carries in the waking state ego.

The Jehovah's witnesses have created a religion where man shouldn't enjoy life due to the fact that it takes away the attention one might be giving God. No celebrations of Birthdays or holidays because God will be jealous of you having a good time, making God feel bad. Not the idea of an Omnipresent, Omniscient or Omnipotent creator, but rather a creator with an ego. What loving parent would deny his children the celebration of their own life and the recreation of imagination of play. The Jehovah's witness religion is fear based, and it preaches the fear of its founders for its congregation and the world, instead of the love God has for all creation as it was created. It separates man from God as does all religion in the belief that God can only love conditionally rather than unconditionally. It preaches that God will reward his children for good behavior and punish those who behave badly, and it distorts the true teachings of those who's words fill the bible. Each chapter and verse is carefully picked and translated to fit the designs of mans image of God rather than Gods image of man. So much of the expanded vision of God filled testimony has been deleted from the book regarding consciousness, reincarnation and immortality to where it has become a horror story rather than a book filled with light and love.

Every human can experience the reality that all emotions are just thoughts. One can witness a thought and experience themselves as greater than the thought. To make God less that that is just plain superstitious and ignorant.
Siddhārtha Gautama, who became the Buddha, Jesus who became the Christ/Bhudda, Moses the Alchemist and spiritual scientist, all shared the same teachings, yet each generation took those teachings and made them to fit their lifestyle and beliefs.
The JW's of today have embraced distorted translations of pages from scripture to form a bible of fear for man who is created by a God that cannot create a perfect man. God creates instead a man flawed, blinded by sin and with a mission to please a God that deliberately distorted the mind of man so that only a few might find his purpose to please the maker to be saved from eternal damnation while the majority is expected to fall, and fail.

In the eyes of the Jehovah's Witnesses. God makes very little effort to save his children from his own failure. He instead commissions only a few with a religion to save the world. The story of every religionist on this earth.

Even the worst of humanity would never deliberately set out to have children in such a manner, nor act as barbaric and petty towards their children as the God religion has imagined out of their own fear and ignorance.
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post Aug 04, 2012, 06:09 AM
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My fear is that you have suppressed emotion within yourself.

Man was made in God's Image. Having emotion is a part of being a healthy person. Trying to take emotion away from a person is to dampen one's spirit. Controlling one's emotions is maturity. Likewise when God failed to control His emotion with the one speaking behind the serpent He hurt Adam and Eve.

When God hurt Adam and Eve then He lied about the blessing on the end of the previous day that was given to the perfect couple not experiencing death and not having eaten of the tree of life.

When God lied He became irrational and not to be trusted anymore. This was not realized until just recently with Gensis 1 :28-29.

In His irrational state God became angry and drove the creation into futility. He caused the death of mankind and proclaimed that He would destroy the person behind the serpent and interferred with man's progress on the face of the earth in general. In His hurt God destroyed a world full of people in the flood because they were acting violently and killing. God had lost control of His creation.

In His irrationality God had his firstborn Son come to the earth as Jesus Christ and die to buy back perfect life that God took from Adam and teach us how to make God in His irrational state happy.

In these last days there has been one person to show God the unreasonableness of His ways toward mankind in the new light of the Genesis account.

God has now decided to turn back from His anger and preserve life since as Jesus taught all things are possible with God. God has accepted the blame for His immature actions toward His creation and resultingly does not require the worship of His creation anymore.

Anyone who still loves God despite the fact that He has acted ruinously makes God happy. Therefore the creation does not have to love God but instead will want to love God from the completeness of the person that He has caused Himself to become. People need to forgive God for His past actions toward creation and have confidence that He will now do the right thing.

Any who see God as lacking emotion have been made incomplete due to studying God in His irrational condition and as a result lack comfort from having suppressed their emotions. Ego and superstition are tools to suppress the proper emotional state which make the trained one defective in their reasoning.

For example God put eternity into the hearts of mankind. Imperfect mankind has imagined that the soul is immortal and continues on after death. But this is not correct. There was a time when Adam was unconscious dust of the earth. And God threatened to return man to the dust if he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.

After the blessing of Genesis 1:28-29 man did eat of the tree. But he was escorted out of the Garden of Eden before he could eat of the tree of life. Adam died at the age of 930 years. He lived long enough to start a population of imperfect people in which at the time God took a more active part in directing earth's affairs as an irrational Person.

Basically people defied God in the beginning from the time that Cain killed Abel. Adam at this point was still alive. The teaching of the immortal soul says that Abel was not really dead. People including yourself believe this teaching to this very day. It is in error. It is an improper view of God.

Early in history God confused the language of man from Hebrew to all the different tongues of people today. As a result the defiance of man has taken the teaching of the immortal soul and brought it into all of their various cultures of mankind.

The bible record indicates that Moses retained the truth about mankind's start and wrote it down for the preservation of this word in the wilderness at about 1513 BCE. The bible book of Genesis is still available to this very day and teaches in stark contrast to the immortality of the soul.

You as a reasoning person will have to decide for yourself what is right Joesus.

Further, when Jesus was on earth he resurrected a number of people to their life as human again. They never said that they were unhappy to be taken from another life that God gave them as new immortals having just recently died. Instead they were simply non-existent in an unconscious way after they died and now returned to life again by Christ Jesus.

The teaching of an immortal soul is wrong. The lie that caused imperfection opened the door for the teaching of the immortal soul and God has seen how to correct it by looking at Himself first as the cause of the lie.

Jesus was to conquer the imperfect state and die faithful to an irrational God but the issues at hand, meaning that the serpent was the blame for the lie, is not right and has recently been proved as incorrect.

God must blame Himself. People are confused about God and God is the reason why.

Now in God's spirit of Modesty He will not destroy a large number of ignorant people at Armageddon. Instead He will help them adopt a righteous view of life that everyone will agree to abide by as they learn how to co-operate toward a happy future together.

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post Aug 04, 2012, 07:22 AM
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A fascinating story.
It implies that God is flawed, immature, emotional, controlling, and created man in his image.
It also implies that this psychotic God expects his progeny to be better than himself, in order to be released from the hell he created thru his lineage.

What would it be like to be elevated into God's psychotic paradise?

One can only imagine such a playground where the newly immortal soul could manage their own worlds of torture and chaos. Oh what fun! rolleyes.gif

Religion in man, creates God in the image of himself.
Some of them more interesting than others.

Perhaps you should get involved in The immortality project .
This professor was given a three year five million dollar grant to study life after death.
You could just sum it all up for him and save the world from any delusion.
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post Aug 04, 2012, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(Joesus @ Aug 04, 2012, 07:22 AM) *

An fascinating story.
It implies that God is flawed, immature, emotional, controlling, and created man in his image.
It also implies that this psychotic God expects his progeny to be better than himself, in order to be released from the hell he created thru his lineage.

What would it be like to be elevated into God's psychotic paradise?

One can only imagine such a playground where the newly immortal soul could manage their own worlds of torture and chaos. Oh what fun! rolleyes.gif

Religion in man, creates God in the image of himself.
Some of them more interesting than others.

Perhaps you should get involved in The immortality project .
This professor was given a three year five million dollar grant to study life after death.
You could just sum it all up for him and save the world from any delusion.

God was alone at first. God is love. God was humble but not modest meaning he did not know his limitations.

Now that God has accepted the blame for mankind's fall he has learned modesty because he was not the first to acheive a happy spirit. The fruitage of the happy spirit is happiness.

The fruitage of the happy spirit will be applied to individuals who forgive God for his irrational outburst from a happy state lacking modesty.

Paradise will become a world full of happy people living in righteous ways. People will not want to hurt other people so the immoral ways will cease. Unhappy people will be stopped from hurting others since God can read people's thoughts and serve to prevent harm.

Jesus' return to earth will straighten out a lot of misconception such as the immortality of the soul and set people on a more correct path of life. When people fully understand they will co-operate from a rightful reasoning theme of doing to others what they want done to themselves.

God made a mistake. He forced the worship of his creation instead of allowing the creation of its own free will to express the love God wanted for the gift of life that he created for individuals.

With the knowledge that an immature God (a God never having created life before) made a mistake thinking that the original serpent was trying to overtake his supremacy solved then there is nothing to stop the complete populace of people from having a friendly relationship with a God that simply wants to be appreciated as a good friend forth going into the future.

People love life. When Jesus sets matters right then people can proceed to live with an honest God that they no longer worship but can trust for their future welfare without death in view. People will be able to make good plans and have them work out and not ruined with armageddon over the horizon, as death averted, in view.

The justice system needs to determine what is bad so that individuals will refrain from doing the wrong thing that in the end could possibly hurt their relationship with God and other individuals.

This justice system will be applied to everyone including God at the same time when Jesus sets matters straight in the near future. The directive will be to hate what is bad, like is the way for people with self control already and stop doing bad, to be truly happy in the future.

Torture and death resulting from choas will come to an end before there is paradise from a happy God not a psychotic Person.

If Jesus can forgive God for losing his life the way he did then why should there be any person left to oppose Father as the new cheerful leader of mankind? Jesus is greater than us all. Who has an argument stronger than that of Jesus Christ?

God will not choose to fail in a similar way again. God is a lover of justice and currently knows that he is no longer above the law. This is modest of God and needs to be co-operated with. The universe has become arranged to be a much safer place in which to live. Jesus will share this information with mankind soon. Jehovah only holds an unforced opinion like everyone else.

Presently the flesh is weak and conditioned to loving the pleasure of the wrong things, corrupt. This is in a mix of people who want just a normal way of life. Soon Jesus will grant the peaceful things that people wish for and the prosperity of the good people will be contagious for anyone else who is lagging in true respect for God and men.

Prosperity free from sin will be a strong incentive to love what is right and hate what is bad.
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post Aug 04, 2012, 06:11 PM
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post Aug 30, 2012, 11:20 AM
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edit delete replyschool0pjs1 wrote today at 4:17 AM

God has died.

Because of the turmoil over the forbidden fruit tree and other complications for justice sake, God has now died. All things are possible for God and he has allowed himself to die.

Jesus is now ruling and will sanctify Father's name on the earth when he comes to the United Nations. Then Jesus will resurrect God again when his affairs are straightened out.

Jesus is coming to the earth quickly. He will soon be here on his own timetable. His own long suffering charges in the spirit are in view if he does not come soon.

Will Jesus put Satan in the Abyss or not?. Many individuals are concerned about what Jesus will do.
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QUOTE(P JayS @ Aug 30, 2012, 07:20 PM) *

God has died.

If we're speaking of your definition of God..then rest in peace.
However an open casket would be nice so that we don't just have to take the word of a disillusioned credit card victim.
It's difficult to trust all those messengers who wear sandwich boards and stroll the streets with just any old newsflash about God, Jesus and such.. dry.gif
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Jesus is now ruling and will sanctify Father's name on the earth when he comes to the United Nations. Then Jesus will resurrect God again when his affairs are straightened out.

Like Father like son. Or as the Son put it.."I and my Father are One." What else can the son of a defective God produce other than defective results.

Can't wait for CNN coverage of Jesus and his resurrection of his omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent dysfunctional Father... wacko.gif
QUOTE(P JayS @ Aug 30, 2012, 07:20 PM) *

Jesus is coming to the earth quickly. He will soon be here on his own timetable. His own long suffering charges in the spirit are in view if he does not come soon.
Will he be able to stand the scrutiny and the pressure? Stay tuned..
QUOTE(P JayS @ Aug 30, 2012, 07:20 PM) *

Will Jesus put Satan in the Abyss or not?.
Wait huh.gif Doesn't Satan already live and rule in the pit of Hell?
QUOTE(P JayS @ Aug 30, 2012, 07:20 PM) *
Many individuals are concerned about what Jesus will do.

Kinda like many are worried if Paul Sr. and Paul Jr. are gonna get along on the new season of American Chopper!
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post Sep 01, 2012, 05:07 AM
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edit delete replyschool0pjs1 wrote today at 5:10 AM, edited today at 5:13 AM

God created free will.

God chose to execute Adam. He used his free will to become irrational. He was not irrational before this. His irrationality has lead recently to his death.

This has left his perfect son Christ Jesus in rulership. Christ Jesus will sanctify God's name on the earth. Christ Jesus is the resurrection and the life. He can bring God to life again when he wants to.

Christ Jesus is the Mediator for prayer. He still knows what people are praying in his name and can act as a free moral agent of his own regarding those prayers. Father can review those prayers when he is alive again and see how his Son did with them. Christ Jesus has all authority in heaven and on earth presently.

People do not pray to Christ Jesus but to God. Jesus can respond to the prayer still of needy ones. He knows what the prayers are. Soon a restored God having died for his mistakes can answer the prayers for himself again after Christ Jesus sanctifies God name and brings him back to life.

All things are possible with God Jesus said.

When Jesus returns will he really find faith on the earth?.
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QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 01, 2012, 01:07 PM) *

God created free will.
Evidently with a twist. His compassion (in your description of Godly wisdom) is leaning towards using free will in only one way,.. or else..
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 01, 2012, 01:07 PM) *

God chose to execute Adam. He used his free will to become irrational. He was not irrational before this. His irrationality has lead recently to his death.
An irrational God is not exactly the God everyone imagines.. but then there is a disgruntled credit card victim and Jehovahs Witness who comes along and preaches salvation, by a dysfunctional Father of the created Universe after he is resurrected for his sins.
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 01, 2012, 01:07 PM) *

This has left his perfect son Christ Jesus in rulership. Christ Jesus will sanctify God's name on the earth. Christ Jesus is the resurrection and the life. He can bring God to life again when he wants to.
Why? Why resurrect an irrational God?
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 01, 2012, 01:07 PM) *

Christ Jesus is the Mediator for prayer. He still knows what people are praying in his name and can act as a free moral agent of his own regarding those prayers. Father can review those prayers when he is alive again and see how his Son did with them. Christ Jesus has all authority in heaven and on earth presently.

Interesting how an imperfect father could apparently create a perfect son. There must be a force of happenstance that exists beyond the Father that created the perfect son. happy.gif Maybe its the God that was preached before the JW's fabricated theirs!?? blink.gif
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 01, 2012, 01:07 PM) *

People do not pray to Christ Jesus but to God. Jesus can respond to the prayer still of needy ones. He knows what the prayers are. Soon a restored God having died for his mistakes can answer the prayers for himself again after Christ Jesus sanctifies God name and brings him back to life.

Ya Gotta wonder why the perfect son ignored the imperfections in God and let him live. OR Why he preached the perfection of the father in the bible. I guess Jesus had to lie alot about the Father when he was preaching his ministry.
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All things are possible with God Jesus said.

Even to create a bunch of morons who would preach the irrational God.
I guess God has a sense of humor. wink.gif
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 01, 2012, 01:07 PM) *

When Jesus returns will he really find faith on the earth?.
In all shapes and bizarre ideals. wacko.gif
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With God all things are possible Jesus said.

Jesus knew a lot more about God than you do Joesus.

Do you think that individuals can't learn from their own mistakes or do you hold them to their mistakes forever.

Have you never made a mistake Joesus?

God killed Adam and blamed the serpent for it. Recently it has been realized that God did this and the serpent did not lie as accused. Since God took life including that of his Son Jesus Christ he has realized that he (God) was the problem in the beginning and volunteered to even the scales of justice. A life for a life. So he just died recently.

God has to trust that his Son Jesus will resurrect him again. Christ Jesus will rid the earth of the confusion God has caused and explain what future intent Father will play in mankind's affairs when he lives again. When Father is alive again then he will have established new trust with his Son and will not be hasty to make any more mistakes in the future.

If people cannot forgive Father for his mistakes then why should they be forgiven of their mistakes?.

It is possible that God make a mistake when he sentenced Adam to death. A single mistake that led to other mistakes from a faulty start.

You are misinformed. Jehovah's Witnesses in general do not believe in an irrational God. They are trained not to visit social networks on the internet. They are not reading what i am saying. i do not preach it in the congregation to be followed. My public writings are written knowing that God was reading it and informed that at least one person had realized what was going on in the Scriptures revolving around the Garden of Eden.

Would God be interested in what one person had to say or not? What do you think Joesus? Is Jesus interested in what you have to say or not?
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QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 01, 2012, 04:05 PM) *

With God all things are possible Jesus said.
Including ridiculous predictions regarding a retarded God.
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 01, 2012, 04:05 PM) *

Jesus knew a lot more about God than you do Joesus.
Of that I have no doubt.
However, what you know of Jesus and God, I have doubts... wink.gif
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 01, 2012, 04:05 PM) *

Do you think that individuals can't learn from their own mistakes or do you hold them to their mistakes forever.
Individuals reflect Choice. Choice is choice. Whether a choice is considered a mistake is relative. Whether God should be categorized as an individual and one who makes mistakes is relative to belief.
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Have you never made a mistake Joesus?

No. I thought I did... but I was mistaken. happy.gif
Whether I judge the choice or someone else does, is irrelevant to possibility, probability, and the natural tendency of the universe to unfold as it does.
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God killed Adam and blamed the serpent for it. Recently it has been realized that God did this and the serpent did not lie as accused. Since God took life including that of his Son Jesus Christ he has realized that he (God) was the problem in the beginning and volunteered to even the scales of justice. A life for a life. So he just died recently.

Never take the word of God over a snake. The snake is much more likely to be honest... rolleyes.gif
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God has to trust that his Son Jesus will resurrect him again. Christ Jesus will rid the earth of the confusion God has caused and explain what future intent Father will play in mankind's affairs when he lives again. When Father is alive again then he will have established new trust with his Son and will not be hasty to make any more mistakes in the future.
Gotta appreciate the son who does damage control for the inept creator of all things.
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If people cannot forgive Father for his mistakes then why should they be forgiven of their mistakes?.
Well why not just condemn the father to burn in hell like so many have assumed the Father has for those he has not forgiven?
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 01, 2012, 04:05 PM) *

It is possible that God make a mistake when he sentenced Adam to death. A single mistake that led to other mistakes from a faulty start.

Like condemning all those he didn't forgive... Maybe Jesus will resurrect all those who have died and not just play favorites to the corrupt father. unsure.gif
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You are misinformed. Jehovah's Witnesses in general do not believe in an irrational God.

Oh Good. Then its just you. happy.gif Thank goodness not all the JW's are looney tunes.
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They are trained not to visit social networks on the internet. They are not reading what i am saying. i do not preach it in the congregation to be followed. My public writings are written knowing that God was reading it and informed that at least one person had realized what was going on in the Scriptures revolving around the Garden of Eden.
You said God is dead!
You're not very consistent..
Oh that's right, with God all things are possible, like reading your letter while being dead!
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Would God be interested in what one person had to say or not? What do you think Joesus? Is Jesus interested in what you have to say or not?
What if what I say completely contradicts what you have to say. What kinda interest do you think he is going to have in conflicting statements? Who's side is he gonna take?
As for whether God would be interested in what one person has to say. That would depend on just how dead God is. sad.gif Maybe he's only slightly, or mostly dead, but not all the way dead!
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I didn't just start this deliberation about justice for Adam, Eve and the Original Serpent today. God is well aware of how people past and present have felt about him as their God.

All justice required was that the Title of God die. But God took it further than that and actually died hoping that his Son Jesus Christ would bring him back to life after everything is straighened out regarding God's name and postion as Father in order to build a new trust between them (God and Jesus).

Adam had unending life and God changed that unjustly. So this made God responsible for death since Adam was made to be imperfect before he had children. It is correct that all of these children who have died will need to live again and reach perfection.

This is possible because Adam will live again with Eve.

With life restored to Adam and possibly Eve to if she is dead now, then Father will have paid the price for Adam's death and be restored to life as well.

Presently Jesus is ruling Father's Kingdom without God and he is capable of judging mankind past and present and fixing the problems of the earth.
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I didn't just start this deliberation about justice for Adam, Eve and the Original Serpent today. God is well aware of how people past and present have felt about him as their God.
You mean God WAS well aware.. He's dead right?
And according to you, he was out of sorts and had to die. So whether he was aware of reality to the degree that a better God could comprehend and act without needing to die as an idea, the standard of measure regarding his sanity or awareness in how people felt about anything is going to be a moot point.
You're backsliding to cover your ass regarding the God is listening (after the fact of his death) statement that you unconsciously tried to preach.
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All justice required was that the Title of God die.

What court or rulebook states this idea? So far you claim that you have no peers, being that you worship the God Jehovah but don't speak to the Jehovah's Witnesses about your ideals. You've preached the Book of the Jehovah's witnesses yet you don't subscribe to their ways of life. Are you looking to start your own Church?
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But God took it further than that and actually died hoping that his Son Jesus Christ would bring him back to life after everything is straightened out regarding God's name and postion as Father in order to build a new trust between them (God and Jesus).
There was a trust issue between God and Jesus? Wacky Father and distant son kinda thing?
In your previous statement you claimed Jesus would. Now you say God hoped he will... (Nothing like an uncertain God)
You spin a rather flimsy story.
So just who are you? Are you some kind of prophet for the new millenium, or just another crazy sandwich sign carrier preaching the death of God? wacko.gif
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Adam had unending life and God changed that unjustly.

Yeah you keep saying that, but where is it written that it was unjust and God did wrong? Maybe Adam didn't have unending life.. he died according to you, so he really "didn't have unending life" would be the correct statement.
Who lives forever and where do immortals live? From where is life created and where does it go when it ends? IF God is dead did he go to heaven or did he go to hell.... Or did he go someplace where all souls go that don't meet the expectations of God? Does God get special treatment where the rest of humanity that never made the grade simply got shafted by the defective judgments God has made?

As long as you're going where no other church or bible has gone with these ideas, curious minds want to know. Either that, or they're ignoring your claims because they are simply ludicrous. huh.gif
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So this made God responsible for death since Adam was made to be imperfect before he had children. It is correct that all of these children who have died will need to live again and reach perfection.

Reincarnation? Is that in the Bible? Now we're talking Eastern religion and philosophy. Perhaps Jesus was re-incarnated rather than resurrected.
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This is possible because Adam will live again with Eve.

And you know this because.......? Maybe they'll just meet have sex for old times sake, and then go on their way respectively, finding new partners. Death can put a damper on a relationship. wink.gif
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With life restored to Adam and possibly Eve to if she is dead now, then Father will have paid the price for Adam's death and be restored to life as well.
Possibly to Eve? So you're making this up as you go along and you don't even know where the hell eve is or has been all these years. Christ this story is worse than a TV soap opera.
The son is making repairs to the damaged universe the Father created.
Reminds me of Sanford and son. Lunatic father and somewhat sane son living with father and every day the son has to try to keep the Father out of trouble.
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Presently Jesus is ruling Father's Kingdom without God and he is capable of judging mankind past and present and fixing the problems of the earth.

Having the capabilities to fix the problems of the earth is a new thing for Jesus? Why fix them now when they could have been fixed before? Oh wait.. I get it, Daddy would probably throw a tantrum and vaporize all of humanity just to show who was boss! Or ground Jesus for being a brat! happy.gif
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QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 01, 2012, 04:05 PM)

"Would God be interested in what one person had to say or not? What do you think Joesus? Is Jesus interested in what you have to say or not?"

Quote Joesus
"What if what I say completely contradicts what you have to say. What kinda interest do you think he is going to have in conflicting statements? Who's side is he gonna take?
As for whether God would be interested in what one person has to say. That would depend on just how dead God is. Maybe he's only slightly, or mostly dead, but not all the way dead!".

Christ jesus has recently brought God back to life. But now God is sleeping. He has never done this before. He is seeing more closely what it is like to be mortal because he intends to make a man from his Goodness for people to deal with as their Governor/governer in all mankind's affairs now and in the future.

The body for Father is being created in Heaven by the binary lion The Eternal Father with the help of the binary lion The Original Serpent from here within the vacinity of the earth. Note: God has been pent up in frustration and now sees the need to breathe as a man like an exhaust void or balance to his Being.

Jesus will still sanctify God's name and clear up other matters at the U.N. when his decision for the best time to do so soon is made in the best interests of everyone concerned.

God died. This has partially satisfied the scales of Mankind's justice. When life is restored to perfection the need is for God not to repeat what he has done and show courageous leadership for mankind's safe future and everything that is to be created otherwise.

The need to bring God back to life but have him sleep like a man was thought of from considering what this discussion had to say. Particularly that God only be slightly dead like he was sleeping from what Joesus said.

Well done Joesus!

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QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 06, 2012, 07:12 PM) *

"Would God be interested in what one person had to say or not? What do you think Joesus? Is Jesus interested in what you have to say or not?"

According to you, God had a hissy fit for what Adam and Eve had to say regarding the snake. God does not appear to be impartial. Well that was then. Now he's slightly dead. I always hate trying to get a response from the slightly dead. They always appear so slightly disinterested. dry.gif

Would he be interested in what one person had to say? I guess we shall have to wait now until Prince Charming awakens him from his being slightly dead condition.

But,.. since you claim he will come into form as a man after his slightly being dead condition (possibly with all the emotional baggage and delusional qualities of man because man was made in his image), and using your way of thinking, I guess you would have to take a poll and see if man (who is the image of God) would be interested in everything any one person might have to say. Or we are going to have to wait and see. Maybe give him a few centuries to prove his worth and compassion.

As For Jesus.

People pray to him all the time and never get an answer, or any resolve with their issues.

So where did you want to go with this? huh.gif
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 06, 2012, 07:12 PM) *

Christ jesus has recently brought God back to life.
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QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 06, 2012, 07:12 PM) *

But now God is sleeping.

Yeah, death can do that to you.. Takes a lot outta you, and God being so fragile and all too. blink.gif
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 06, 2012, 07:12 PM) *

He has never done this before.
I can imagine. Who would of ever imagined such bizarre behavior from a creator of Universes to commit suicide and have another immortal try to turn him into the Bionic God, with greater compassion.

Kachangangangangangang... We can build him better, stronger, make him faster, wiser.. (cue theme from the bionic man)

QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 06, 2012, 07:12 PM) *

He is seeing more closely what it is like to be mortal because he intends to make a man from his Goodness for people to deal with as their Governor/governer in all mankind's affairs now and in the future.

Oh thank goodness... and how convenient.

By the way.. Did this happen in the period since your last post when he was dead and previously hoping Jesus would bring him back to life?
And were you witness to this? Was this on NPR or verified by snopes? 'Cause if it wasn't I have my doubts.. dry.gif I guess the big question is.. will prince charming be making an entrance to wake him up with a kiss any time soon?? sleep.gif

Hey wait! You're not prince Charming are you?

QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 06, 2012, 07:12 PM) *

The body for Father is being created in Heaven by the binary lion The Eternal Father with the help of the binary lion The Original Serpent from here within the vacinity of the earth. Note: God has been pent up in frustration and now sees the need to breathe as a man like an exhaust void or balance to his Being.

Of Course.. Being God is extremely frustrating! What with no one taking you seriously and all. It's hard work condemning the majority of the people to burn in hell for thousands of years until he could create the Jehovahs's witnesses to straighten everyone out, and then to create P.Jay to straighten the JW's out and give the playback on God's death and subsequent beauty sleep.
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Jesus will still sanctify God's name and clear up other matters at the U.N. when his decision for the best time to do so soon is made in the best interests of everyone concerned.

Sure he will. Looking forward to that. I'm sure CNN will cover every detail. But then if not you will for sure. Right?
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God died. This has partially satisfied the scales of Mankind's justice. When life is restored to perfection the need is for God not to repeat what he has done and show courageous leadership for mankind's safe future and everything that is to be created otherwise.

Mankind's need, as in an eye for an eye kinda thing? Just how do you know mankind will be satisfied with God's death and resurrection? Millions of years of insanity and abuse may just need a few thousand years of relationship building to create trust. After all Humanity is pissed. Forget God.. they don't even like the Jehovah's witnesses sad.gif
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The need to bring God back to life but have him sleep like a man was thought of from considering what this discussion had to say. Particularly that God only be slightly dead like he was sleeping from what Joesus said.
Uh huh.. Not quite what I said...
But you found a way to twist it into a neat story to cover your ass. rolleyes.gif

So... all of this took place because of you and this discussion!!
How impressive.

Do you think he will heal you of your illness and your credit card frustrations now that you have stimulated him into taking his own life? Or will he leave you be so that you can continue on till your death and formal salvation?
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Well done Joesus!

Why thank you. tongue.gif

I've decided to take a small portion of my day to play in this sandbox, since everyone else was totally ignoring you.
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God has woken up from his sleep and is talking to me again. At least someone is talking to me. I have been taught that Satan is ever a deceiver so it could be him perhaps. And then there are Aliens to consider.

At any rate I am in my sound mind and continue to base what I do and say from my own individualism and report what I do to the public on the internet.

The gods will have to fight among themselves over who i will really believe myself. I am just as much interested in CNN coverage of Jesus at the U.N. just as everyone else is. Someone claiming to be Jesus told me that he was coming anyway.

For anyone to fully put faith in what i have said requires manifestation of the words spoken. This is the truth of it.

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QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 07, 2012, 03:38 PM) *

God has woken up from his sleep and is talking to me again. At least someone is talking to me. I have been taught that Satan is ever a deceiver so it could be him perhaps. And then there are Aliens to consider.

There ya go... Hate it when aliens pose as God speaking to me..
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 07, 2012, 03:38 PM) *

At any rate I am in my sound mind and continue to base what I do and say from my own individualism and report what I do to the public on the internet.
Best keep it an internet thing, and not try and stand on any soap boxes in the middle of town. You might get arrested for disturbing the peace. And....
If anything it has some entertainment value.
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 07, 2012, 03:38 PM) *

The gods will have to fight among themselves over who i will really believe myself. I am just as much interested in CNN coverage of Jesus at the U.N. just as everyone else is. Someone claiming to be Jesus told me that he was coming anyway.
Maybe for dinner. You might wanna stock up on some of those vegetarian Hungry man dinners that you can pop into the oven at a moments notice. wink.gif Meanwhile grab some popcorn sit back and watch the God fight. Maybe we could make bets on who will win. Once you determine just who is fighting for your attention.

Aliens, God, Satan... take your corners and come out fighting.. smile.gif
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For anyone to fully put faith in what i have said requires manifestation of the words spoken. This is the truth of it.

Boy howdy.. yer durn tootin'


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i try not to bet Joesus.

My thoughts about Genesis 1:28-29 are my own.

As far as being influenced by individuals of unknown certainty i depend on manifestation of what they tell me before they will actually have gained my trust in them more fully. I recommend everyone else to consider what i have said but not trust it until the manifestation of what has been said as well.

Joesus i have a public life on the internet but appreciate my private life too much to stand up in town on a box and preach Genesis 1:28-29 along with other things that i think about the Bible.

For things that have happened to me privately concerning spirit creatures see my brief comments here:
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Note: •Peter Jeffrey Spencer is tired right now. At http://creativepi.multiply.com/notes/item/13.

P.j.s... winding down... "

I am tired. I will monitor the site and respond when i can.

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QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 08, 2012, 02:07 PM) *

i try not to bet Joesus.

My thoughts about Genesis 1:28-29 are my own.
Obviously...
QUOTE(P JayS @ Sep 08, 2012, 02:07 PM) *

As far as being influenced by individuals of unknown certainty i depend on manifestation of what they tell me before they will actually have gained my trust in them more fully.
Like the manifestation of the death of god, his gaining the partially dead status coming up from being all dead to mostly dead and his subsequent awakening? You witnessed this manifestation?

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I recommend everyone else to consider what i have said but not trust it until the manifestation of what has been said as well.
I seriously doubt you'll have any problems there.
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Joesus i have a public life on the internet but appreciate my private life too much to stand up in town on a box and preach Genesis 1:28-29 along with other things that i think about the Bible.

Actually I figured as much. However I didn't come right out and say that your private life would be compromised by exposing yourself and your unmanifest claims as being manifest to those you hope to convince face to face. Much safer to cast your illusions behind the big curtain. Like the wizard of OZ.

Who would like to believe a sickly man who can't support himself financially, maintain a relationship or even predict future outcomes that would benefit his health and lifestyle while he makes claims to be able to predict the fantastic future of the creator of the universe?
The card that people like to play, being the suffering martyr gets old.

No one wants to believe you have to suffer in life and die, to gain the grace of some kind of supreme dysfunctional being, or even a rehabilitated one for a reward in some magical paradise.
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Not being a member to view the reference and not wanting to, I'll assume you have had some feedback as well as experiences. What they consist of would be of your own making.

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" Please see the note at the school for an explanation of why it may be so difficult to deal with me right now.

Note: •Peter Jeffrey Spencer is tired right now. At http://creativepi.multiply.com/notes/item/13.
You're not difficult to deal with, really. Anyone can choose to ignore unsubstantiated claims to reality or get upset about them. No one can actually climb into another and manipulate their feelings or their health. Those qualities are the responsibility of each individual and often the results of ones own attachment to reality thru belief and conditioning. People fall ill due to stress, both physical and emotional. The mind is a powerful thing. It can create experiences for an individual that have no reality for another.
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P.j.s... winding down... "

I am tired. I will monitor the site and respond when i can.

Thank-you!,
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Doubt anyone will steal the rights to your claims and also figure it takes a lot of energy to maintain the kind of beliefs you do. Can see why your body is stressed as you try to control your universe with some kind of idea to hold it and yourself together.
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Thank-you for the kind words Joesus. You do show compassion after all.

God (or someone) started talking to me about the year 1997. Over the years on at least two occasions portions of my consciousness were taken from me (my gifts of mind and spirit). My thoughts about math and science which developed in a near photo graphic memory that i once had are my own.

When God died the talking virtually stopped from him. There were a couple of times when Jesus temporarily brought him back to life and he momentarily talked to me again explaining that he wanted to die until Jesus went to the U.N. and then he died again.

After you posted about God slightly dead then the heavens got the idea for God to live again since the scales of justice had been paid and now for God to sleep. This occurred as played out by them to me. After God woke up then he started talking to me again. This is sort of a manisfestation that this is real but not the manisfestation that I am looking for. I am looking for the reality that all mankind can see with me like Jesus going to the United Nations. He has told me that he will soon.

Even though i am a spirit medium i remain neutral to peoples' affairs. I do not seek answers to future events from the spirits that talk to me. I do not use my position to try and make money while i do try to advance my own ideas with unsolicited help from the spirits. I do not ask the spirits for help because i do not know who is really talking to me but i have reported publicly now that this is happening to me.
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Since I have interacted with spirits i have come to learn that man didn't evolve.

I was shown Adam and Eve being evicted from the Garden of Eden. And the conclusion of the King of the North and the King of the South among other things. But i turned away from this vision since it was reallt meant for Daniel.

I have seen the black wolf in vision form. The last one in a pack of wolves that came to see me one winter.

I have heard the voice of a spirit ask me if i had my computer set-up the way that i like it.

There are several things that i could report. Many of the things happened to me when i lived with my mother in Hantsport.
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When i was 30 yrs old God wrote a new name on my forehead as i was praying to him thanking him for a new name. When he was done he walked up beside my bed with my wife sleeping beside me and he turned my head from side to side.

I could see the outline of his form but i could not see his face under his helmet. He was not talking to me.

Then he left. About 1997 i was praying to God asking him not to take his own life and he told me that he had too much to live for. This was before i discovered the new information about Genisis 1:28-29 and supporting verses just recently. Even then he was still blaming Satan for what happened in the Garden of Eden.

Since it has been proved that God did act irrationally he saw that he needed to die to satisfy the scales of justice. And now that he lives again he sleeps 6 to 8 hours a day. Now that he dreams like a man does but with the mind of God he can appreciate what is mortal all the more so.

Soon the official thousand years of God's kingdom rule will start and perhaps more people will see spirit activity.

I have not mentioned my encounter with spirits in any particular order. It has not always been pleasant to deal with them.
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And now that he lives again he sleeps 6 to 8 hours a day. Now that he dreams like a man does but with the mind of God he can appreciate what is mortal all the more so.


How interesting Mr. Spencer, how interesting...
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And now that he lives again he sleeps 6 to 8 hours a day. Now that he dreams like a man does but with the mind of God he can appreciate what is mortal all the more so.


How interesting Mr. Spencer, how interesting...

God's goal is to make a man from his Goodness. This man known as Father will represent God on the earth. This is a manifestation that will have to come true like Jesus going to the United Nations before people believe it.
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Can we seriously ask this question? Our ways and deeds are bad? Yes, there is God and God is love. We need love inside us before we can know whether or not he is alive.
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