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post Jun 24, 2009, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(Joesus @ Jun 24, 2009, 03:55 PM) *

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Maybe you should all leave Enki alone. (Actually, that doesn't sound very friendly, does it?) Maybe you should all not leave Enki alone. Uhmmmm ....

Enki is never alone....


hahaha.... yes, we've born witness to that fact, lol
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post Jun 24, 2009, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(catseye @ Jun 23, 2009, 11:43 PM) *

I read thru many members posts in and out.
You had me laughing the most.


that figures!

yes, he is quite the clown!
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post Jun 24, 2009, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(Trip like I do @ Jun 24, 2009, 12:10 PM) *

QUOTE(catseye @ Jun 23, 2009, 11:43 PM) *

I read thru many members posts in and out.
You had me laughing the most.


that figures!

yes, he is quite the clown!


That was the last drop in the cup of patience.
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Will Terrorists Go Nuclear


[ http://www.terrorism.com/modules.php?op=mo...ists_Go_Nuclear ]
Category : Terrorism

Author : Brian Michael Jenkins

ISBN : 1591026563

Description : Will terrorists go nuclear? That is the essential questioned posed by counterterrorism expert Brian Jenkins in a book of the same title. Jenkins has written a sobering and critical analysis of this question that spans over his decades of research on the topic. In fact, the book shares the title of a research paper Jenkins wrote over 30 years ago and it is that essay he uses as the entrance point for his observations. The issue of nuclear terrorism is one that has haunted policy makers, enriched movie producers, and fevered American apprehension for 30 years and the strength of Jenkins book is his categorical and tempered analysis of how each of these complex areas play into the nuclear terrorism debate. Playing the role of mythbuster, Jenkins dives deep to determine the seeding point for a large number of nuclear terrorism memes that have propagated over the past decade. Upon examination, Jenkins finds that some of the memes are just that, organic ideas that developed a life of their own or had strategic sponsorship by individuals who were in a position to benefit from the propagation of the meme. Readers should draw some comfort from the thoughtful analysis and debunking of some of our most terrifying concerns. In his analysis of terrorist motives, operational concepts and evolution Jenkins dissects the core issues in a way that few terrorism analysts can. This book will speak not only to his peers, but is very accessible to the general audience and it is this audience that Jenkins seems obligated to inform with this book. That assumption brings us to the final and most essential element of the book, which is Jenkins' differentiation between "nuclear terrorism" and "nuclear terror". Nuclear terrorism is the threat that must be addressed by Western democracies through sound counterterrorism and non-proliferation policies. Nuclear terror is the state of perpetual societal fear that is exploited to erode civil liberties and generate apprehension within democracies. Of course, the fundamental question is how much apprehension can we cope with before the fundamental components of our society become unrecognizable. Jenkins book is a highly recommended read for anyone interested in this essential subject and should be required reading for consumers of popular culture (the TV show 24, for example) that propagate the nuclear terrorism meme, or anyone who finds the concept of nuclear terrorism "terrifying".


So will they? Will God stop them or will not, that is the question.
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post Jun 24, 2009, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 25, 2009, 03:52 AM) *

That was the last drop in the cup of patience.
Uh Oh, does that mean the cat will go nuclear?

QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 25, 2009, 03:52 AM) *

Will Terrorists Go Nuclear
So will they? Will God stop them or will not, that is the question.

Why would this scenario be any different than any war, genocidal attempt to eradicate an opposing idea, plague or global disaster that has not been circumvented by some divine ideal?
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post Jun 25, 2009, 10:19 AM
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No, the question was, "Whatever happened to God?"
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post Jun 25, 2009, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Jun 25, 2009, 11:19 AM) *

No, the question was, "Whatever happened to God?"

Who cares? With any luck he won't come back.
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post Jun 25, 2009, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Jun 25, 2009, 10:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Jun 25, 2009, 11:19 AM) *

No, the question was, "Whatever happened to God?"

Who cares? With any luck he won't come back.
Fair enough. But it took a lot of words to get here! Still, do we have another gOD in our midst?
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post Jun 25, 2009, 02:04 PM
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Speaking of God, Rick comments: Who cares? With any luck he won't come back.

I agree! However, keep in mind: G0D--note the 0, zero--has a web site, which is: http://www.redefinegod.com
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post Jun 25, 2009, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Jun 25, 2009, 02:21 PM) *
... Still, do we have another gOD in our midst?

To reply to a question with a question: Doesn't it say somewhere in the New Testament that we are all gods? Or is that just my misinterpretation?
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post Jun 25, 2009, 05:44 PM
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"To reply to a question with a question: Doesn't it say somewhere in the New Testament that we are all gods?" Rick asks.

Yes, Jesus said this in John 10:34.
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QUOTE(Lindsay @ Jun 25, 2009, 06:44 PM) *

"To reply to a question with a question: Doesn't it say somewhere in the New Testament that we are all gods?" Rick asks.

Yes, Jesus said this in John 10:34.


It's in both - Jesus was affirming the quote from Psalm 82, old testament.

what happened to God?
Realistically mankind is 'growing out' of religion. With separations in the influence to social mannerisms, to political make-shifting, to business ethics, it is easy to see this question as a reference to the fall of what we viewed as God the Great spirit. When we, humanity, evolves through each phase of our abilities or 'humanhood', we also assimilate what we believe through what we transcend - our civilization grows from infantile "necessities" to learned conditions. And how we progress directly effects all of our views and expectations of further evolvement. and with it the life relations with each other, and ourselves, and with God.

Today marriage is viewed not only liberally, but the system of relationships in each partnership is always progressing/changing. one example is - We can ask where is the ethic of marriage of one and only one? True fidelity? Now adays we not only accept that many have 2 , 3, and 4 marriages. We agree it to be normal and acceptable without social judgment from the older systems in ethics.

another example is that today we are in stage politically in which democracy is becoming the forefront and not the days of monarchy or a rule from one king or Cesar. We view each voice as a important structure to our civilization. (is it perfect yet, no, but this example is real and is a growing advancement that we all accept and arbitrate) Not as it was back in the times of Roman rule to accept the appointed but by the view in the majority of our people.

Civilization and it's seeking enlightenment converts to whatever the society evolves to, and with it the parameters of what we view or learn to be the next state of advancement. and with it also our views and wisdoms of God or the nature of God - as goodness in man - mans ultimate achievements towards humanity and their fulfillment of prosperity for the whole and the personal. Spirit to ego, we delegate our knowledge to what is conditioned as proposed.

what happened to God - Nothing ! We are the one it's happening to. The question to answer a question is: What is happening to us?

that's the optimistic side.. biggrin.gif .



here's the pessimistic... sleep.gif :



Artist: Jethro Tull
Song: The Chateau Disaster Tapes

a) Scenario

In long years of ancient time, stood alone a friend of mine.
Reflected by the ever-burning sigh of a god who happened by.
And in the dawn, there came the song of some sweet lady singing in his ear.
Your god has gone, and from now on, you'll have to learn to hate
the things you fear.

We want to know, are we inside the womb
of passion plays, and by righteousness consumed?
Or just in lush contentment of our souls?

And so began the age of man.
They left his body in the sand.
Their glasses raised to a god on high
who smiled upon them from the sky.
So take the stage. Spin down the ages. Loose the passion.
Spill the rage upon your son who holds the gun up to your head ---
the play's begun.

cool.gif Audition

Then God, the director, smells a rat.
Pulls another rabbit from His hat.
Sniffs the air and He says, ``Well, that's that --- I'm going.''
The actors milling helplessly --- the script is blowing out to sea.
But what the hell, we didn't even pass an audition.
The lines you'll have to improvise. The words are written in
the eyes of politicians who despise their fathers.
And so the play necessitates that all you boys participate
in fierce competition to eliminate each other.

And groupies, on their way to war,
get to write the next film score.
But the rock and roll star knows his glory is really nothing.
Men of religion, on the make,
pledge an oath they undertake to
make you white for God's own sake, and none other.

While ladies get their bedding done
to win themselves a bouncing son ---
but bad girls do it for the fun of just being.
And me, I'm here to sing along,
and I'm not concerned with the righting wrongs,
just asking questions that belong without an answer.
The God is laughing up his sleeve
as He pours himself another cup of tea,
and He waves goodbye to you and me,
at least for now.

c) No Rehearsal

Did you learn your lines today? Well, there is no rehearsal.
The tickets have all been sold for tomorrow's matinee.
There's a telegram from the writer,
but there is no rehearsal.
The electrician has been told to make the spotlights brighter.
There's one seat in the circle --- five hundred million in the stalls.
Simply everyone will be there, but the safety curtain falls when
the bomb that's in the dressing room
blows the windows from their frames.
And the prompter in his corner is sorry that he came.

Did you learn your lines today? Well there is no rehearsal.
The interval will last until the ice-cream lady melts away.
The twelve piece orchestra are here, but there is no rehearsal.
The first violinist's hands are chilled --- he's gone deaf in both ears.
Well, the scenery is colourful, but the paint is so damn thin.
You see the wall behind is crumbling,
and the stage door is bricked-in.
But the audience keep arriving
`till they're standing in the wings.
And we take the final curtain call, and the ceiling crashes in.

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post Jun 28, 2009, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(Joesus @ Jun 24, 2009, 11:31 PM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 25, 2009, 03:52 AM) *

That was the last drop in the cup of patience.
Uh Oh, does that mean the cat will go nuclear?

QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 25, 2009, 03:52 AM) *

Will Terrorists Go Nuclear
So will they? Will God stop them or will not, that is the question.

Why would this scenario be any different than any war, genocidal attempt to eradicate an opposing idea, plague or global disaster that has not been circumvented by some divine ideal?


You ask too many stupid questions Joe, direct them to your God, maybe He/She shall provide you with answers, who knows? Personally I do not have time to elaborate over ideas of Mr. Brian Michael Jenkins quoted above and have no time to ponder over your imbecile questions.

If God decide not to respond to your inquiries Joe, then you probably can direct your questions to The Great Wizard Jenkins Howl Pendragor from the popular film of Mr. Hayao Miyazaki "Howl's Moving Castle" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howl%27s_Moving_Castle_(film) . Or maybe Mr. Calcifer or Madam Suliman shall help you to uncover the Enigma .../... . And in case if you not succeed, then you can turn to Mr. Frank Cadillac, maybe he can look in the Book of Secrets at page # 47 and tell you when and what shall happen.
You may also register at www.terrorism.com I am sure if you are able to pay you can download a lot of information on nuclear terrorism, maybe that shall help you to find answers to those strange questions you ask.

One thing is clear: if at interface of the Economic Crisis something like that shall happen the US/british Titanic shall sink economically with all the british and celtic ***s on board. So all depends on the Great Sustainer, if He/She not care to care then you all are f u c k e d up. I think another fluctuation like hurricane Ike and company AIG shall ensure quite devastating results, I guess.

Take care Joe, who knows, maybe DMT-Illuminati gentlemen and Nazi time traveling squad are jumping in the realm of the shadow like in the Japanese Hellsing-4 film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellsing , who knows maybe they percolated from the time traveling gate for DMT creatures.
The Chapter 23 beginning at page 417 of the book of CIA director Mr. Tenet is called "Mission Not Accomplished", what does that mean Joe? Maybe it is a great riddle of Mr. Pike, who knows, who knows. (Hi Kids)

Personally I do not have time like the Great Sustainer probably has to spend on british and celtic ***s.
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post Jun 28, 2009, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 28, 2009, 03:44 PM) *


You ask too many stupid questions Joe,

ouch.... touche, lol
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post Jun 28, 2009, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Jun 25, 2009, 10:19 AM) *

No, the question was, "Whatever happened to God?"


Whatever
pron. 1. Everything or anything that: Do whatever you please. 2. What amount that; the whole of what: Whatever is left over is yours. 3. No matter what: Whatever happens, we'll meet here tonight. 4. Also what ever. Informal. Which thing or things; what: Whatever does he mean? --whatever adj. 1. Of any number or kind; any: Whatever requests you make will be granted. 2. All of; the whole of: She applied whatever strength she had left to the task. 3. Of any kind at all: No campers whatever may use the lake before noon.

So is this the meaning of the question Hey Hey


Whatever happened to God? = No matter what happened to God?

So was I right in remembering the words of the song?:

http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=101189
QUOTE(Enki @ May 13, 2009, 01:43 PM) *

QUOTE(Hey Hey @ May 05, 2009, 05:04 PM) *

Whatever happened to God? Did someone upset him?


You know that reminded me this part of the well known song:

And if God is great and God is good why can't he change the hearts of men?
Well maybe God himself is lost and needs help
Maybe God himself he needs all of our help
Maybe God himself is lost and needs help
He's out upon the road to peace

Well maybe God himself is lost and needs help
Maybe God himself he needs all of our help
And he's lost upon the road to peace
And he's lost upon the road to peace
Out upon the road to peace

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post Jun 28, 2009, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 28, 2009, 07:44 PM) *

You ask too many stupid questions Joe, direct them to your God, maybe He/She shall provide you with answers, who knows?
I'll refer any comment to your next statement...

QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 28, 2009, 07:44 PM) *

The Chapter 23 beginning at page 417 of the book of CIA director Mr. Tenet is called "Mission Not Accomplished", what does that mean Joe?

It means you're self absorbed in conspiracy theories. huh.gif

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QUOTE(Joesus @ Jun 28, 2009, 09:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 28, 2009, 07:44 PM) *

The Chapter 23 beginning at page 417 of the book of CIA director Mr. Tenet is called "Mission Not Accomplished", what does that mean Joe?

It means you're self absorbed in conspiracy theories. huh.gif




I am absolutely not absorbed in any conspiracy theories and believe non of them. More over I like to quote official data, in particularly book of Mr. Tenet. You know a great stuff to read for any US citizen. laugh.gif
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What a pity indeed that God personally does not use Internet to clarify all the questions related with Kingdom of Heavens and the main options. Though who knows, maybe one day He/She will come to Brain Meta and will explain to Joe basics of his religion.
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QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 29, 2009, 09:48 AM) *

What a pity indeed that God personally does not use Internet to clarify all the questions related with Kingdom of Heavens and the main options. Though who knows, maybe one day He/She will come to Brain Meta and will explain to Joe basics of his religion.

Aint gonna happen....

And yes, you are absorbed in conspiracy theories. cool.gif
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QUOTE(Joesus @ Jun 29, 2009, 08:18 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 29, 2009, 09:48 AM) *

What a pity indeed that God personally does not use Internet to clarify all the questions related with Kingdom of Heavens and the main options. Though who knows, maybe one day He/She will come to Brain Meta and will explain to Joe basics of his religion.

Aint gonna happen....

And yes, you are absorbed in conspiracy theories. cool.gif


Never say so Joe, who knows ... Maybe He/She already writes at Brain Meta. You cannot imagine unimaginable Joe?

No I am not absorbed, absolutely. I like facts, very much. I like interesting facts. And there are many interesting facts all around. Besides, the phrase "conspiracy theories" is a nice badge to pin on any person whose opinion somehow diverts from the ideological line of DMT-meditating gang of criminals, who eventually shall face fundamental punishment. In the later I do believe very, very strongly.
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QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 29, 2009, 07:23 PM) *

Never say so Joe, who knows ...

Too late. I already said so..
QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 29, 2009, 07:23 PM) *
Maybe He/She already writes at Brain Meta. You cannot imagine unimaginable Joe?
Then it would stand to reason I wasn't imagining anything unimaginable.
QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 29, 2009, 07:23 PM) *

No I am not absorbed, absolutely. I like facts, very much. I like interesting facts. And there are many interesting facts all around.

Relative to your personal interests yes. Unless of course the facts conflict and raise havoc with your interests, and then you have a habit of making a point to decide what is relevant and how the conflict should be dealt with according to your judgment.
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Besides, the phrase "conspiracy theories" is a nice badge to pin on any person whose opinion somehow diverts from the ideological line of DMT-meditating gang of criminals, who eventually shall face fundamental punishment.

Conspiracy theory fits nicely to anyone who wants to label facts of wrongdoing by DMT elves and criminals (Celts and Brits included) working against the plan of a higher universal interest.
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In the later I do believe very, very strongly.
Along with the threats you make, identifying punishment, or the wrath of Enki as it is directly related to defending your personal interests or your pride.
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QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 29, 2009, 03:23 PM) *

QUOTE(Joesus @ Jun 29, 2009, 08:18 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 29, 2009, 09:48 AM) *

What a pity indeed that God personally does not use Internet to clarify all the questions related with Kingdom of Heavens and the main options. Though who knows, maybe one day He/She will come to Brain Meta and will explain to Joe basics of his religion.

Aint gonna happen....

And yes, you are absorbed in conspiracy theories. cool.gif


Never say so Joe, who knows ... Maybe He/She already writes at Brain Meta. You cannot imagine unimaginable Joe?

No I am not absorbed, absolutely. I like facts, very much. I like interesting facts. And there are many interesting facts all around. Besides, the phrase "conspiracy theories" is a nice badge to pin on any person whose opinion somehow diverts from the ideological line of DMT-meditating gang of criminals, who eventually shall face fundamental punishment. In the later I do believe very, very strongly.

honestly.... no offence intended, but most of what you write is like spam to my brain, brainspam!
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Democracy in our multi-Universe has reasonable limitations.
It is a reminding for those who are not aware about that simple fact.
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QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 30, 2009, 07:56 AM) *

Democracy in our multi-Universe has reasonable limitations.
It is a reminding for those who are not aware about that simple fact.
Free will and all that...allows for anyone to make choices regardless of universal law. You only have to concern yourself with you. Whether you invest yourself in others and their choices does not take from them their ability to choose to act or think within the boundaries of delusion.
It is also a simple fact that you do not decide how the universe provides for your irritation.

So, best you get over it, and quit blaming everything on rakshasas.
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Getting back to the original question, whatever happened to god (with a capital G)? There are only four possibilities:

1. He is not really missing, it just seems that way.

2. He never existed in the first place.

3. He died.

4. He's in retirement, don't bother him.

Pick one and stick with it!
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QUOTE(Trip like I do @ Jun 29, 2009, 10:00 PM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 29, 2009, 03:23 PM) *

QUOTE(Joesus @ Jun 29, 2009, 08:18 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jun 29, 2009, 09:48 AM) *

What a pity indeed that God personally does not use Internet to clarify all the questions related with Kingdom of Heavens and the main options. Though who knows, maybe one day He/She will come to Brain Meta and will explain to Joe basics of his religion.

Aint gonna happen....

And yes, you are absorbed in conspiracy theories. cool.gif


Never say so Joe, who knows ... Maybe He/She already writes at Brain Meta. You cannot imagine unimaginable Joe?

No I am not absorbed, absolutely. I like facts, very much. I like interesting facts. And there are many interesting facts all around. Besides, the phrase "conspiracy theories" is a nice badge to pin on any person whose opinion somehow diverts from the ideological line of DMT-meditating gang of criminals, who eventually shall face fundamental punishment. In the later I do believe very, very strongly.

honestly.... no offence intended, but most of what you write is like spam to my brain, brainspam!

.... like some sick twisted virus set out to infect neurons!
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QUOTE(Rick @ Jun 30, 2009, 05:09 PM) *


1. He is not really missing, it just seems that way.

Pick one and stick with it!


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Facts speak for themselves. Those who wish to ignore them already make the choice for themselves.
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QUOTE(Rick @ Jun 30, 2009, 01:09 PM) *

Getting back to the original question, whatever happened to god (with a capital G)? There are only four possibilities:

1. He is not really missing, it just seems that way.

2. He never existed in the first place.

3. He died.

4. He's in retirement, don't bother him.

Pick one and stick with it!


Theory: Part No.1)

Those who search Him/Her find Him/Her. I think God lives somewhere in the world like an ordinary man possibly having no extra abilities, or just some few: equal among equals and suffers the hardships of reality like every human being, even makes sins like man, why not. Reasonably that God can be called fair God. So those who search the Grail find Him/Her and those who find they get the someone who can show the right way to move the Frigate of Mankind.
The rest of divine obligations He/She left to some sort of robotic operating system called Metathrone - extremely powerful Angel. The God periodically re-borns on earth here and there, lives like ordinary man etc. Each time He/She changes something to the best in this world. Those who seek Tom Bombadil and Lady Blubbery they find them.

Does such a God-the great unknown is acceptable for you Dr. Rick?

That is why I reminded about this song:

And if God is great and God is good why can't he change the hearts of men?
Well maybe God himself is lost and needs help
Maybe God himself he needs all of our help
Maybe God himself is lost and needs help
He's out upon the road to peace

Well maybe God himself is lost and needs help
Maybe God himself he needs all of our help
And he's lost upon the road to peace
And he's lost upon the road to peace
Out upon the road to peace
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post Jun 30, 2009, 03:36 PM
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Theory: Part No.2)

So the next important question is: can such a God be a gay in one of his reincarnations? I mean if He/She born periodically here and there and possibly even do not remember who He/She is till getting enlightenment, then everything is possible.

I think this theory gives great advantages to Gay movement world wide to persuade Catholic Church that God may sometimes love furies and furfags and sometimes not.

Besides this theory explains why God is so furious in the Old Testament: imagine that you are a God (optionally such as I described above) living in the Middle East at Moses times, just imagine a disordered and brutal world and you suffer greatly because you live among barbarians with barbarian traditions. Certainly if you get slight capability to manage them you shall be brutal in your methods, but eventually anyway leading the Frigate of Mankind along right direction as you have inborn feeling of what is the Right Way. So that is why the Bible may sound sometimes quite controversial for a contemporary reader.

Interesting approach is not it? I am just sharing ideas trying to develop this crazy theory. Sorry God for such uncertain ruminations over the topic.
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Theory: Part No.3)

So as you see we slowly are approaching to some key concepts of the E(h)WAN ALMIGHTY movie concepts.
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