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post Feb 26, 2009, 03:53 PM
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I can see why a (particular) human face is beautiful (sexual attraction) or the face of a young animal (e.g. large eyes reminiscent of a human baby). But why is a rainbow beautiful? And why is my firefly screensaver beautiful? Why does some abstract art (no natural form) draw one to tears? Some music (without voice/words) is like this (think Rachmaninoff's Rhapsody On A Theme By Paganini); why?
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post Feb 26, 2009, 04:00 PM
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.... because they tap into a certain harmonious frequency that resonates and triggers certain cognitive processes!
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post Feb 26, 2009, 04:01 PM
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.... because they tap into a certain harmonious frequency that resonates and triggers certain cognitive processes!
Evidence? And which cognitive processes?
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post Feb 26, 2009, 04:07 PM
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A rainbow is beautiful because it mobilizes all the frequencies contained within the known spectrum of colours!
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post Feb 26, 2009, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Feb 26, 2009, 07:01 PM) *

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.... because they tap into a certain harmonious frequency that resonates and triggers certain cognitive processes!
Evidence? And which cognitive processes?

no, no evidence.... but what other reason could there be for objective phenomena to stimulate subjective emotion!?
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post Feb 26, 2009, 04:11 PM
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A rainbow is beautiful because it mobilizes all the frequencies contained within the known spectrum of colours!
Why would that spectrum (of all wavelengths I think you mean) induce beauty?
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post Feb 26, 2009, 04:14 PM
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Hey Trip, and why is your art beautiful? Not all (any?) of your paintings contain all of the possible colours/wavelengths. (Yerr, and the British invented colour with a 'u'; brilliant aren't they?)
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post Feb 26, 2009, 04:15 PM
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.... because embedded within contains all frequencies in a certain visual harmonic combination with the capabilities of exciting vision. A dash of red, with a pinch or orange, a ... of green, etc. etc.
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post Feb 26, 2009, 04:27 PM
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.... because embedded within contains all frequencies in a certain visual harmonic combination with the capabilities of exciting vision. A dash of red, with a pinch or orange, a ... of green, etc. etc.
It's funny you should say that .. Some years ago I was in a discussion with my research group about using multiple electric field frequencies applied simultaneously to microelectrodes for the purposes of dielectrophoresis of biological cells. At that time no-one had used multiple frequencies. We discussed the possible polarization mechanisms that would be induced and how these might interact, and the effect of this on cell collection upon electrodes. There are a range of polarization mechanisms available and (dependent upon the frequencies selected) when multiple frequencies are applied, several mechanisms would be induced at the same time. It was not simply that the multiple frequencies would provide a different waveform, but that different mechanisms would come into play simultaneously. I can see something related to this possibly being applicable to the present problem, i.e. that different (sensory/cognitive mechanisms) might come into play simultaneously to provide a response that in some way is recognized as significant (another sort of quale), experienced as beauty. But a single (isolated) stimulus might do the same thing?
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post Feb 27, 2009, 12:10 PM
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I think a harder question is why is some art ugly?
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post Feb 27, 2009, 02:18 PM
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not really.... it is merely the inverse of the other!
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post Feb 27, 2009, 03:55 PM
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Making truly ugly art isn't that easy.
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post Feb 27, 2009, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Feb 27, 2009, 03:55 PM) *

Making truly ugly art isn't that easy.

I figure all you need is a talentless artist
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post Feb 27, 2009, 11:45 PM
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post Feb 27, 2009, 11:48 PM
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post Feb 27, 2009, 11:50 PM
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ohmy.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif smile.gif wub.gif blink.gif
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post Feb 28, 2009, 03:16 AM
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You look good in them there stockings, Trip wub.gif
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post Mar 01, 2009, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(code buttons @ Feb 27, 2009, 07:59 PM) *

QUOTE(Rick @ Feb 27, 2009, 03:55 PM) *

Making truly ugly art isn't that easy.

I figure all you need is a talentless artist

A talented artist could make something much uglier than a talentless artist. Making something truly ugly requires great skill.
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post Mar 01, 2009, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Feb 28, 2009, 06:16 AM) *

You look good in them there stockings, Trip wub.gif

.... please read caption again hey hey

not as gay as you think
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post Mar 02, 2009, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Mar 01, 2009, 03:44 PM) *

QUOTE(code buttons @ Feb 27, 2009, 07:59 PM) *

QUOTE(Rick @ Feb 27, 2009, 03:55 PM) *

Making truly ugly art isn't that easy.

I figure all you need is a talentless artist

A talented artist could make something much uglier than a talentless artist. Making something truly ugly requires great skill.

Shock Art: Ugly or beautiful?
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post Mar 02, 2009, 10:30 AM
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You look good in them there stockings, Trip wub.gif

.... please read caption again hey hey

not as gay as you think
Was there a caption? laugh.gif
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post Mar 02, 2009, 11:37 AM
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If one intends to create something ugly, and he succeeds, then there is an element of beauty in that success, isn't there? It's a more subtle topic than might appear at first glance.
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post Mar 02, 2009, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Mar 02, 2009, 01:30 PM) *

QUOTE(Trip like I do @ Mar 02, 2009, 02:06 AM) *

QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Feb 28, 2009, 06:16 AM) *

You look good in them there stockings, Trip wub.gif

.... please read caption again hey hey

not as gay as you think
Was there a caption? laugh.gif

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post Mar 06, 2009, 04:16 AM
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QUOTE(code buttons @ Mar 02, 2009, 10:26 AM) *

QUOTE(Rick @ Mar 01, 2009, 03:44 PM) *

QUOTE(code buttons @ Feb 27, 2009, 07:59 PM) *

QUOTE(Rick @ Feb 27, 2009, 03:55 PM) *

Making truly ugly art isn't that easy.

I figure all you need is a talentless artist

A talented artist could make something much uglier than a talentless artist. Making something truly ugly requires great skill.

Shock Art: Ugly or beautiful?



I think both these are very profound.... and cool!
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post Mar 06, 2009, 09:14 AM
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I prefer green:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7927668.stm
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post Mar 06, 2009, 10:34 AM
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Quick reply for now, more to come on this juicy topic lol

@Hey Hey: The Brits do indeed spell things inefficiently like colour. But its Queens English, and you'll damn well respect it! wink.gif
A colleague at work was talking to a yank on the phone (apologies if that is derogatory, I don't believe it is), and she asked him to slow down because of his accent... He replied "No, luv, its YOU that has the accent!" biggrin.gif
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post Mar 06, 2009, 10:50 AM
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And how do the Americans pronounce and spell aluminium and laboratory?
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@Hey Hey: The Brits do indeed spell things inefficiently like colour. But its Queens English, and you'll damn well respect it! wink.gif

Canada too!
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