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lokum
post Jan 27, 2009, 02:27 PM
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I was listening to the radio at 3 am the other day and this was on BBC overnight. It's an interview with John Lennox (Oxford math professor) and as to why he believes in God. It's a very thorough and logically consistent interview.

http://www.a-strange-beginning.com/yomna/rrt_20090114.mp3
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post Feb 02, 2009, 01:15 PM
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First, there is no supernatural entity. Second, there is no way to punish a dead person. Third, we must judge people while they are alive so they may benefit from our assessment (or we may be protected from their evils).

The entity is natural. Super when it appears to exist outside of ourselves. Punishment is relative to idealism, and more than often, judgment is made from a position that does not include complete knowledge of reality but rather the knowledge of personal interests and attachment to those interests.

The sentences referring to Moses and Judgment were from a long list of christian one liners..

Seems that lately the conversations on these subjects aren't taken seriously or with any real objective interest.


CHRISTIAN ONE-LINERS

Don't let your worries get the best of you; remember, Moses
started out as a basket case.

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Some people are kind, polite, and sweet-spirited until you
try to sit in their pews.

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Many folks want to serve God, but only as advisors.

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It is easier to preach ten sermons than it is to live one.

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The good Lord didn't create anything without a purpose, but
mosquitoes come close.

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When you get to your wit's end, you'll find God lives there.

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People are funny; they want the front of the bus, the middle
of the road, and the back of the church.

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Opportunity may knock once, but temptation bangs on your
front door forever.

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Quit griping about your church; if it was perfect, you
couldn't belong.

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If the church wants a better preacher, it only needs to pray
for the one it has.

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God Himself does not propose to judge a man until he is dead.
So why should you?

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Some minds are like concrete thoroughly mixed up and
permanently set.

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Peace starts with a smile.

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I don't know why some people change churches; what difference
does it make which one you stay home from?

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A lot of church members who are singing 'Standing on the
Promises' are just sitting on the premises.

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We were called to be witnesses, not lawyers or judges.

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Be ye fishers of men. You catch them - He'll clean them.

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Coincidence is when God chooses to remain anonymous.

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Don't put a question mark where God put a period.

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Don't wait for 6 strong men to take you to church.

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Forbidden fruits create many jams.

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God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called.

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God grades on the cross, not the curve.

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God loves everyone, but probably prefers 'fruit of the
spirit' over a 'religious nut!'

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God promises a safe landing, not a calm passage.

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He who angers you, controls you!

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If God is your Co-pilot - swap seats!

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Prayer: Don't give God instructions -- just report for duty!

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The task ahead of us is never as great as the Power behind
us.

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The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God will
not protect you.

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We don't change the message, the message changes us.

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You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to
discourage him.

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The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3
nails = 4 given.
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lokum   Mathematician Explains His Faith   Jan 27, 2009, 02:27 PM
Hey Hey   Thanks for this file. I will give it a listen.   Jan 27, 2009, 03:40 PM
Hey Hey   Thanks for this file. I will give it a listen. Ha...   Feb 01, 2009, 05:01 PM
Rick   If we define God as "the light by which we se...   Jan 27, 2009, 03:42 PM
lokum   Thank you Rick for pointing out that error. I lik...   Jan 27, 2009, 08:44 PM
maximus242   The definition of faith is that which cannot be pr...   Jan 27, 2009, 11:15 PM
trojan_libido   I'd love a transcript of the mp3, I listened t...   Jan 28, 2009, 12:19 AM
Rick   His profound observation is that the scientist (or...   Jan 28, 2009, 08:07 AM
trojan_libido   I think you've taken what he said out of conte...   Jan 28, 2009, 08:49 AM
Rick   I think you've taken what he said out of cont...   Jan 28, 2009, 09:23 AM
code buttons   You could say god is the universe The universe i...   Jan 28, 2009, 01:27 PM
Rick   Yeah, takes all the mystery out of it. Now how doe...   Jan 28, 2009, 01:55 PM
code buttons   Theists can't be moral beings because everyth...   Jan 28, 2009, 02:08 PM
Rick   Because they've been told it's their duty ...   Jan 28, 2009, 02:13 PM
trojan_libido   Slightly overzealous on the generalisations Rick. ...   Jan 28, 2009, 11:46 PM
Rick   Slightly overzealous on the generalisations Rick....   Jan 29, 2009, 08:57 AM
Joesus   Wake up call or a reminder that such diverse fanat...   Jan 29, 2009, 09:51 AM
trojan_libido   I believe that life has to have these spikes of ag...   Jan 29, 2009, 10:27 AM
Joesus   I believe that life has to have these spikes of a...   Jan 29, 2009, 10:39 AM
maximus242   I dont think we can make sweeping generalizations ...   Jan 29, 2009, 12:37 PM
Rick   I dont think we can make sweeping generalizations...   Jan 29, 2009, 03:35 PM
Trip like I do   'SCIENCE AND RELIGION' by Werner Heisenber...   Jan 29, 2009, 05:11 PM
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code buttons   How can he possibly know that religion isn't...   Jan 30, 2009, 05:53 AM
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Joesus   Not the bible, interpretations of it. Religions...   Jan 30, 2009, 10:06 AM
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Phi   orange, sir   Jan 30, 2009, 05:49 PM
Lindsay   ...an interview with John Lennox (Oxford math pro...   Jan 31, 2009, 01:41 PM
Joesus   Don't let your worries get the best of you; re...   Feb 01, 2009, 05:53 PM
Hey Hey   Don't let your worries get the best of you; r...   Feb 01, 2009, 06:28 PM
Rick   Don't let your worries get the best of you; r...   Feb 02, 2009, 12:14 PM
Joesus   Every choice leads to an experience..   Feb 01, 2009, 08:36 PM
Hey Hey   Every choice leads to an experience.. Thanks for ...   Feb 01, 2009, 10:41 PM
Joesus   The entity is natural. Super when it appears to e...   Feb 02, 2009, 01:15 PM
P. Jay   [quote name='Joesus' date='Feb 02, 200...   Jan 03, 2012, 09:25 PM


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