| eraser |
Jan 09, 2009, 06:01 AM
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hi,
i just ordered some piracetam powder in bulk and i've also ordered some alpha-gpc. i've tried piracetam once before with excellent results, the problem being that they did not last for more than a few weeks. i believe this may have been because i decided to remove alpha-gpc from the regimen and the choline bitartrate that i replaced it with wasn't cutting it. i also may have noticed the alteration before this. i made some dosing changes, tried taking the alpha-gpc again (i may have only done this for a day or two, so perhaps it didn't fully build up within my system) but alas, i couldn't get the same results that i had within the first few weeks, and was almost out of piracetam, so i stopped taking it altogether. i also became somewhat dehydrated and sickly around the time that i stopped taking it, and several days after i noticed some of the initial effects (like influxes of memories flashing triggered by objects or things in my environment, cross-association and visual supplementation that wasn't as present before) but i'm not sure if this sicklyness had to do with the piracetam/alpha-gpc withdrawal or was unrelated. nonetheless, the initial results were so helpful and impressive to me that i've decided to give it another shot. my main questions are: 1. being 19 years old, do i really know what i'm getting into by taking alpha-gpc on a daily basis? i did not seem to have any negative side effects from taking it, though would it be safe to take on a daily basis? what if i continued it for years, with how much certainty am i not doing harm to myself? would i be best to use a more basic form of a choline precursor? 2. does any sort of tolerance develop with piracetam? how could i attenuate/prevent this? 3. what would the nature of the long term benefits from this treatment be? if my brain was structurally altered by this regimen, could i expect to retain some degree of effect after i stop taking them, say, after six months? are the structures created dependent on the substances i'm adding to my brain's equation, and will they still function once created but without the addition of piracetam/alpha-gpc? (i'm mostly interested in cross-hemispheric communication, here). thanks in advance, m |
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| LifeMirage |
Jan 19, 2009, 11:13 PM
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hi, i just ordered some piracetam powder in bulk and i've also ordered some alpha-gpc. i've tried piracetam once before with excellent results, the problem being that they did not last for more than a few weeks. i believe this may have been because i decided to remove alpha-gpc from the regimen and the choline bitartrate that i replaced it with wasn't cutting it. i also may have noticed the alteration before this. i made some dosing changes, tried taking the alpha-gpc again (i may have only done this for a day or two, so perhaps it didn't fully build up within my system) but alas, i couldn't get the same results that i had within the first few weeks, and was almost out of piracetam, so i stopped taking it altogether. i also became somewhat dehydrated and sickly around the time that i stopped taking it, and several days after i noticed some of the initial effects (like influxes of memories flashing triggered by objects or things in my environment, cross-association and visual supplementation that wasn't as present before) but i'm not sure if this sicklyness had to do with the piracetam/alpha-gpc withdrawal or was unrelated. nonetheless, the initial results were so helpful and impressive to me that i've decided to give it another shot. my main questions are: 1. being 19 years old, do i really know what i'm getting into by taking alpha-gpc on a daily basis? i did not seem to have any negative side effects from taking it, though would it be safe to take on a daily basis? what if i continued it for years, with how much certainty am i not doing harm to myself? would i be best to use a more basic form of a choline precursor? 2. does any sort of tolerance develop with piracetam? how could i attenuate/prevent this? 3. what would the nature of the long term benefits from this treatment be? if my brain was structurally altered by this regimen, could i expect to retain some degree of effect after i stop taking them, say, after six months? are the structures created dependent on the substances i'm adding to my brain's equation, and will they still function once created but without the addition of piracetam/alpha-gpc? (i'm mostly interested in cross-hemispheric communication, here). thanks in advance, m 0. What are your cognitive goals? 1. I would suggest using it as needed or taking a few day off every week. 2. Tolerance can occur to some degree with most nootropics when taken daily or in higher doses. Taking a few days off each week may be of benefit. 3. Piracetam and Alpha GPC can cause long term changes in brain function. After a period of 6-12 months of use some people notice the effects can last years afterwards. thanks for the reply, GodConsciousness. i have another question. would i benefit from adding dmae to my stack? apparently the mechanism of action is poorly understood, and it may actually 'block' choline from entering the brain, while somehow withholding choline that already exists inside of the brain. my understanding here is probably poor. i'm wondering if this could interfere with the alpha-GPC's function or if the two will have a synergistic effect. i don't really want to take an especially high dose of alpha-gpc, and will probably stick to 300 mg/day, which worked well for me before. i'm also considering taking cdp-choline one day and alpha-gpc the next, to avoid development of tolerance. i don't know if this makes sense or not or would be helpful. again, thanks for any replies. Considering the lack of good human studies on DMAE and it's unknown interactions with Alpha GPC I would avoid it. Cycling between CDP-Choline and Alpha GPC would be a good idea. |
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