28 October 2011, Carl Calleman - The transformation of Consciousness Options

[sr21]

Carl Calleman, after studying the Mayan Calendar, has come up with the date when the Consciousness Singularity happens - 28 October 2011. Ian Lungold made some good videos about Calleman's work - Search Google Video "The Mayan Calendar Comes North 01 - Ian Xel Lungold"

Also read "The transformation of Consciousness" - Carl Calleman.

Plus a good visualisation attempt of the Consciousness Singularity is the Tenth Dimension
Google Video "Tenth Dimension"

I am not allowed to post URL links just yet

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Carl Calleman, after studying the Mayan Calendar, has come up with the date when the Consciousness Singularity happens - 28 October 2011. Ian Lungold made some good videos about Calleman's work - Search Google Video "The Mayan Calendar Comes North 01 - Ian Xel Lungold"

Also read "The transformation of Consciousness" - Carl Calleman.

Plus a good visualisation attempt of the Consciousness Singularity is the Tenth Dimension
Google Video "Tenth Dimension"

I am not allowed to post URL links just yet

Will I have time to get my watch out of the pawn shop? It's a good watch you know?!

[lucid_dream]

28 October 2011?

no, too soon.

[Phi]

Why project, just prepare and put into motion

[sr21]

28 October 2011?

no, too soon.

Too soon? Maybe not

“The greatest failing of mankind, is the inability to understand the exponential function� - Arithmetic Professor Al Bartlett.

Most people won't realise we are hitting the singularity until we actually do. That is the beauty of the exponential function.

Evolution of consciousness is an exponential function that has been going since the big bang

[lucid_dream]

not convincing. We're still at least 15 yrs from the consciousness singularity.

[Phi]

Unless an unexpected event occurs.

[sr21]

not convincing. We're still at least 15 yrs from the consciousness singularity.

Of course you have read Calleman's books and watched the Ian Lungold videos haven't you?
Question: Why do people make their mind up on new ideas without even knowing what they are about?
Answer: Because consciousness can only change at its own rate.

As for an unexpected event - there are none at the global level.
Global consciousness is advancing at the planned rate.
Watch out for free-energy transforming everything in 2010-2011

[Phi]

I'm agreeing. I don't think the rate of the spread of knowledge is really being comprehended.

[lucid_dream]

Of course you have read Calleman's books and watched the Ian Lungold videos haven't you?

I try not to waste my time with softheaded musings about the Consciousness Singularity, particularly when it's associated with the Mayan calendar and is very likely to be a money-making scam of some sort. I'm guessing you're either Carl or Ian. The Mayan calendar has nothing to say about the Consciousness Singularity. You need to refit your tin foil hat to get better reception and to comprehend that the Consciousness Singularity is most definitely not going to happen within the next 3 yrs, based on the current and extrapolated pace of neuroscience and current technologies.

[Phi]

Not trying to be a skeptic, but how is that gauged?

[sr21]

Of course you have read Calleman's books and watched the Ian Lungold videos haven't you?

I try not to waste my time with softheaded musings about the Consciousness Singularity, particularly when it's associated with the Mayan calendar and is very likely to be a money-making scam of some sort. I'm guessing you're either Carl or Ian. The Mayan calendar has nothing to say about the Consciousness Singularity. You need to refit your tin foil hat to get better reception and to comprehend that the Consciousness Singularity is most definitely not going to happen within the next 3 yrs, based on the current and extrapolated pace of neuroscience and current technologies.

Firstly, I am not Carl or Ian. Ian actually died a few years ago. I am just someone who discovered their work whilst studying long wave economic cycles, Elliott waves, and ancient civilisations, monatomic gold, chaos theory, fractal patterns, exponential functions etc

Secondly, whilst the Mayan Calendar is generally associated with an Apocalyptic event on the 21 Dec 2012, this is not the view that Calleman/Lungold hold. There view is that evolution of consciousness has been on an exponential path since the Big Bang exploded 15-16 billion years ago and will reach "global enlightenment" in 2011.

Thirdly, if your view of consciousness development is limited to neuroscience and technology then you won't see that it is much more complicated than that. Consciousness exists outside the human body. How else can you explain the concepts of ghosts, life after death, telepathy between twin siblings, dousing, and a whole host of paranormal ideas that traditional science cannot explain?

Your view of the Consciousness Singularity is heavily weighted to science and seems to ignore the spiritual side of things. We live in a world where science is meeting spirituality head on.

Think of the evolution of consciousness as a system where we finally understand the unified field theory, dark matter/energy etc right at the point when evolution completes - the Consciousness Singularity. It is no accident that the LHC is about to change the way we view the universe(s)

[sr21]

Not trying to be a skeptic, but how is that gauged?

Here is a brief outline of the The Nine Underworlds of the Cosmos and their corresponding levels of Consciousness.
Type "calleman pyramid" into Google - first result. (Still can't post links - arggghhh)

The "Transformation" that Calleman says starts in Feb 2011, I think will be underpinned by the general availability of free energy. Free energy that doesn't break the laws of physics because it is actually obtained from the dark energy that is hypotheszed and still yet to be found.

[Crazytheorist]

Not trying to be a skeptic, but how is that gauged?

Here is a brief outline of the The Nine Underworlds of the Cosmos and their corresponding levels of Consciousness.
Type "calleman pyramid" into Google - first result. (Still can't post links - arggghhh)

The "Transformation" that Calleman says starts in Feb 2011, I think will be underpinned by the general availability of free energy. Free energy that doesn't break the laws of physics because it is actually obtained from the dark energy that is hypotheszed and still yet to be found.

Have you seen apocalypto? I am not trusting anything by the Mayans after what they did to jaguar paw's tribe. :

[sr21]

Have you seen apocalypto? I am not trusting anything by the Mayans after what they did to jaguar paw's tribe. :

The word apocalypse in Greek means "unveiling".
So 2012 (or 2011 as defined by Calleman) may not be about destruction but a new beginning.

[trojan_libido]

How else can you explain the concepts of ghosts, life after death, telepathy between twin siblings, dousing, and a whole host of paranormal ideas that traditional science cannot explain?

Seriously, you want to backup your argument using ghosts and ESP? This is a shortcut to ridicule. No proof exists for anything you just mentioned. In this day and age, with video,audio and a plethora of other techniques to monitor an area, dont you find it odd we've not got a single bit of footage that is known to be real?

Please dont quote random websites on telekinesis or whatever, they don't impress anyone.

As for the Mayan Calendar ending... I'm really looking forward to whatever people will cling to after 2011/2012. Maybe Aliens will have stolen our ability to transcend this life at the magical 2012 point - this will of course be 'evidence' it was all true.

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Maybe Aliens will have stolen our ability to transcend this life at the magical 2012 point - this will of course be 'evidence' it was all true.

All right Enki, how did you hijack yourself into TL's account?

[trojan_libido]

I'm just as much as skeptic as the rest of you! Exception being my own belief system thats clearly 'infallible' I'm still waiting for anything which goes against the grain of a Fractal Universe! <--- see, its still me!

[Rick]

I'd like to see a good description of the difference between the "consciousness singularity" and Vernor Vinge's technological singularity. Or are they the same thing? Either way, we're not even close in time to any singularity. Physics imposes hard limits.

[Phi]

I find it pointless to pinpoint a date to the singularity.

Is it a general consensus that it's going to happen?

If yes, how will you adjust?

[trojan_libido]

Well I think we're converging on both, if technology brings AI, then they are possibly both the same event.

As for how I'll adjust, I guess I'll plug myself into the inevitable matrix of brain circuitry and go with the flow!

[Trip like I do]

Of course you have read Calleman's books and watched the Ian Lungold videos haven't you?

I try not to waste my time with softheaded musings about the Consciousness Singularity, particularly when it's associated with the Mayan calendar and is very likely to be a money-making scam of some sort. I'm guessing you're either Carl or Ian. The Mayan calendar has nothing to say about the Consciousness Singularity. You need to refit your tin foil hat to get better reception and to comprehend that the Consciousness Singularity is most definitely not going to happen within the next 3 yrs, based on the current and extrapolated pace of neuroscience and current technologies.

Firstly, I am not Carl or Ian. Ian actually died a few years ago. I am just someone who discovered their work whilst studying long wave economic cycles, Elliott waves, and ancient civilisations, monatomic gold, chaos theory, fractal patterns, exponential functions etc

Secondly, whilst the Mayan Calendar is generally associated with an Apocalyptic event on the 21 Dec 2012, this is not the view that Calleman/Lungold hold. There view is that evolution of consciousness has been on an exponential path since the Big Bang exploded 15-16 billion years ago and will reach "global enlightenment" in 2011.

Thirdly, if your view of consciousness development is limited to neuroscience and technology then you won't see that it is much more complicated than that. Consciousness exists outside the human body. How else can you explain the concepts of ghosts, life after death, telepathy between twin siblings, dousing, and a whole host of paranormal ideas that traditional science cannot explain?

Your view of the Consciousness Singularity is heavily weighted to science and seems to ignore the spiritual side of things. We live in a world where science is meeting spirituality head on.

Think of the evolution of consciousness as a system where we finally understand the unified field theory, dark matter/energy etc right at the point when evolution completes - the Consciousness Singularity. It is no accident that the LHC is about to change the way we view the universe(s)

We shall get a lot closer next summer when the LHC begins making new and reality shattering discoveries. Not until new discoveries of the fundamental physical nature of objective reality are made will the subjective mind of the human species progress and converge.

[Trip like I do]

Have you seen apocalypto? I am not trusting anything by the Mayans after what they did to jaguar paw's tribe. :

lol.... great movie!

[Phi]

All that is stated for sure is a change in dimension/perspective. Where does that specifically lead? Do I get to fly yet???

[sr21]

How else can you explain the concepts of ghosts, life after death, telepathy between twin siblings, dousing, and a whole host of paranormal ideas that traditional science cannot explain?

Seriously, you want to backup your argument using ghosts and ESP? This is a shortcut to ridicule. No proof exists for anything you just mentioned. In this day and age, with video,audio and a plethora of other techniques to monitor an area, dont you find it odd we've not got a single bit of footage that is known to be real?

Please dont quote random websites on telekinesis or whatever, they don't impress anyone.

As for the Mayan Calendar ending... I'm really looking forward to whatever people will cling to after 2011/2012. Maybe Aliens will have stolen our ability to transcend this life at the magical 2012 point - this will of course be 'evidence' it was all true.

If you guys are serious about understanding the consciousness singularity then you need to enage your right-brain thinking. A consciousness singularity can only occur when we have balance between left and right brain, East and West civilisations etc. At the moment this forum is so jammed into left-brain thinking you will make little progress in understanding.

Many of you have a status of "God" or "Supreme God". In any search for the CS then include the question what is God? BTW I have no religion. Surely when a CS does happen, God is revealed.

[lucid_dream]

right brain thinking doesn't imply believing in ghosts and ESP anymore than it implies believing in Santa Claus and the Easter bunny. Do not assume that everyone else is as gullible as you are.

[Hey Hey]

right brain thinking doesn't imply believing in ghosts and ESP anymore than it implies believing in Santa Claus and the Easter bunny. Do not assume that everyone else is as gullible as you are.

You don't believe in Santa Claus?

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If you guys are serious about understanding the consciousness singularity then you need to enage your right-brain thinking...

What did you have in mind?

[GodConsciousness]

If you guys are serious about understanding the consciousness singularity then you need to enage your right-brain thinking...

What did you have in mind?

The distinctions between "right-brain" and "left-brain" thinking is largely a cultural myth and is a misunderstanding of the complexity of the brain in regards to different types of thinking. As long as we use these terms largely metaphorically, they can be somewhat useful distinctions. Nevertheless, it may not be particularly helpful in the manner in which it is being used above.