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post Oct 09, 2008, 07:29 AM
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A tripod is the most stable structure. The priestess of the Oracle at Delphi sat on a tripod for her prognostications.

Arrows generally have three feathers.

Space has three dimensions.

Just because evolution hasn't invented a third sex yet doesn't mean it's not viable.
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post Oct 09, 2008, 02:13 PM
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The Oracles of Delphi seem to have been poor girls forced to lead short lives of delirium induced by a natural gas pocket, effectively tripping/dreaming and steering our worlds history on a huge scale. Humanity has always revered and followed its dreams wink.gif

Of course 3 is viable, but it isn't the case. I'm using my eyes and observing what we've got, not what could be. The stability aspect of 3 also has its own mythology and philosophies.

But if your not interested in 0 to 1 to 2 (visible species polarisation), or something from nothing (ie creation), then why not just focus on some huge random number? If you go to infinity you again come to serpent symbolism in the Ourobros.

I do believe mathematical truths are the most pure, they are the root of all our theories, and it really is the only Universal language. I don't mean the numbers 1,2,3,4 etc, there is no such thing as the object 3. I mean the abstract invisible layers of reality which must exist externally to language.

The study of mathematics is probably the largest contributor to our culture and evolutionary path. When our religions are monitoring the most obvious link to something larger (seasons, stars etc.), and the priests are also highly trained mathematicians, you've got to expect the work of those people to have spiritual/mathematical aspects within its symbolism. Pythagoras is an striking example of this. He focussed on the pentagram as the knowledge of the Golden Ratio collided with his mathematical genius.

When you see how consisently this setup has happened in the past, on seperate continents and separated by thousands of years, its awe inspiring. Why should we accept a spirituality which doesnt acknowledge all of humanities shared views? Why can't we discuss what we've thought about for Aeons sensibly. Why can't we use our combined insights into the eternal question in our search for the answer to it? At the heart of all religion is the belief that something set everything in motion. That is the only valid question, both scientifically or spiritually, that is also the root of God.

Maybe the intuition of those ancient spiritual ideas resonate so well because they are describing a Truth of a sort. I feel the modern idea of a Fractal Universe may not be a new one. You can easily trace the rise of the higher mathematics/religion, Golden Ratio, Pentagram and unfotunate subsequent suppressal by monotheism. The ideas were supressed because the idea behind all of these links is so outlandish. The idea is quite unsettling, because it only leaves an uncaring void. Maybe thats why it was glossed over by monotheism (blind devotion), because the Truth of the times was literally causing chaos within the minds of the priests. You shouldn't stare at God! (or the sun.)

As we move further into abstraction (subatomic, quantum) the mathematics still hold true, spinning microcosms creating formations of atoms, all polarised and neat, yet extremely hard to get your head around. Anyone who gives it two minutes thought is blown away by our limited view of the true Reality.
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post Oct 09, 2008, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(trojan_libido @ Oct 09, 2008, 03:13 PM) *
As we move further into abstraction (subatomic, quantum) the mathematics holds true ...

I used to think that was the case, but lately I'm thinking that mathematics may not be able to define the actual reality we are beginning to discover at the sub-nuclear level. Of course that would mean that humans could never hope to understand it ...
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post Oct 09, 2008, 02:45 PM
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We've only just began to explore fractal mathematics. If our theories are cumbersome, its probable due to them being euclidean in nature. Try describing a tree, cloud or the break of a wave using cubes and spheres.
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post Oct 09, 2008, 03:17 PM
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But fractals do not accurately describe trees, clouds, or breaking waves. No known mathematics does.
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post Oct 10, 2008, 02:49 AM
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Thats a non-issue really. It is massively more realistic than euclidean geometry. Should we never change just because we cant get where we want instantly?
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post Oct 03, 2009, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Oct 09, 2008, 07:29 AM) *

A tripod is the most stable structure. The priestess of the Oracle at Delphi sat on a tripod for her prognostications.

Arrows generally have three feathers.

Space has three dimensions.

Just because evolution hasn't invented a third sex yet doesn't mean it's not viable.


Space also has the 4th dimension of Time.

From a strand of space fabric comes c^n which is positive dark energy in an infinity second of negative void penetration of time, helping form the universal Standard of our Earth. And from that the standard for all other heavenly bodies in motion.

Time starts at zero and controls slowing positive invisible dark matter still slowing to become visible matter in motion in the negative void.

a^n - b^n - c^n = 0
1.0 - b^n - c^n = 0

-0 + b^n + c^n = +a^n
-0 + b^n + c^n = +1.0

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post Oct 03, 2009, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Oct 09, 2008, 04:29 PM) *
Just because evolution hasn't invented a third sex yet doesn't mean it's not viable.
Asexual reproduction is very common is nature, in fact it's probably the dominant form of reproduction. In the future I predict that humans will reproduce asexually. At the moment we already circumvent many evolutionary pressures to eradicate the environmentally disadvantaged. So why ignore evolution for humans altogether?
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QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Oct 03, 2009, 09:10 AM) *

QUOTE(Rick @ Oct 09, 2008, 04:29 PM) *
Just because evolution hasn't invented a third sex yet doesn't mean it's not viable.
Asexual reproduction is very common is nature, in fact it's probably the dominant form of reproduction. In the future I predict that humans will reproduce asexually. At the moment we already circumvent many evolutionary pressures to eradicate the environmentally disadvantaged. So why ignore evolution for humans altogether?

"So why ignore evolution for humans altogether?"

Because Hey Hey humans didn't evolve they were created by God.
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