| Rawlinson |
Sep 20, 2008, 04:19 AM
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Im not completely sure if I am posting on the right forum, but for starters I was a christian for a period of time and became confused on how the Bible should be interpreted this lead me to believe that I may be wrong. I then went onto this website and learnt of the Indian folk-tale of the elephant and the three blind men. The point of that story was that there are many interpretations (religions) but they are all of the same thing and only through understanding this can one totally understand God. After reading this I felt that I understood. I started looking into Hindu philosophy and the concept of reincarnation which I now feel is right. However, I am still confused as to where I should begin, I have contemplated reading the Bhagavad Gita and other Hindu literature so as to understand because as far as I know (or think I know) already, in Hinduism, no belief should be considered wrong as they all stem from Brahman who is within everything. This is why I have considered Hinduism.
Is it possible that I can understand God through Hinduism, or should I look to other scripture and consider Hinduism as part of it all? Basically, I am searching for total understanding of God, and I don't know where to begin. I would like it if your answers would not dictate what I should do as I would like to understand myself but I feel I need a 'sign-post at the crossroads' as it were to point down the right direction without forcing me along the way. Thanks |
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| trojan_libido |
Oct 09, 2008, 02:13 PM
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The Oracles of Delphi seem to have been poor girls forced to lead short lives of delirium induced by a natural gas pocket, effectively tripping/dreaming and steering our worlds history on a huge scale. Humanity has always revered and followed its dreams
Of course 3 is viable, but it isn't the case. I'm using my eyes and observing what we've got, not what could be. The stability aspect of 3 also has its own mythology and philosophies. But if your not interested in 0 to 1 to 2 (visible species polarisation), or something from nothing (ie creation), then why not just focus on some huge random number? If you go to infinity you again come to serpent symbolism in the Ourobros. I do believe mathematical truths are the most pure, they are the root of all our theories, and it really is the only Universal language. I don't mean the numbers 1,2,3,4 etc, there is no such thing as the object 3. I mean the abstract invisible layers of reality which must exist externally to language. The study of mathematics is probably the largest contributor to our culture and evolutionary path. When our religions are monitoring the most obvious link to something larger (seasons, stars etc.), and the priests are also highly trained mathematicians, you've got to expect the work of those people to have spiritual/mathematical aspects within its symbolism. Pythagoras is an striking example of this. He focussed on the pentagram as the knowledge of the Golden Ratio collided with his mathematical genius. When you see how consisently this setup has happened in the past, on seperate continents and separated by thousands of years, its awe inspiring. Why should we accept a spirituality which doesnt acknowledge all of humanities shared views? Why can't we discuss what we've thought about for Aeons sensibly. Why can't we use our combined insights into the eternal question in our search for the answer to it? At the heart of all religion is the belief that something set everything in motion. That is the only valid question, both scientifically or spiritually, that is also the root of God. Maybe the intuition of those ancient spiritual ideas resonate so well because they are describing a Truth of a sort. I feel the modern idea of a Fractal Universe may not be a new one. You can easily trace the rise of the higher mathematics/religion, Golden Ratio, Pentagram and unfotunate subsequent suppressal by monotheism. The ideas were supressed because the idea behind all of these links is so outlandish. The idea is quite unsettling, because it only leaves an uncaring void. Maybe thats why it was glossed over by monotheism (blind devotion), because the Truth of the times was literally causing chaos within the minds of the priests. You shouldn't stare at God! (or the sun.) As we move further into abstraction (subatomic, quantum) the mathematics still hold true, spinning microcosms creating formations of atoms, all polarised and neat, yet extremely hard to get your head around. Anyone who gives it two minutes thought is blown away by our limited view of the true Reality. |
Rawlinson former Christian searching for understanding of God, unsure where to begin Sep 20, 2008, 04:19 AM
lucid_dream the gita is a good place to start Sep 20, 2008, 08:19 AM
Joesus Sounds like you already had a start.. Sep 20, 2008, 10:58 AM
Rawlinson
Sounds like you already had a start..
Thanks fo... Sep 20, 2008, 11:12 AM
Rick ... I started looking into Hindu philosophy and th... Sep 21, 2008, 12:11 PM
Joesus
... I started looking into Hindu philosophy and t... Sep 21, 2008, 01:16 PM
Rick You are still assuming this particular planet host... Sep 22, 2008, 12:30 PM
Joesus
You are still assuming this particular planet hos... Sep 22, 2008, 04:18 PM
Rick I don't think this particular civilization on ... Sep 22, 2008, 04:45 PM
Joesus
I don't think this particular civilization on... Sep 22, 2008, 06:02 PM
Rick Third rate romance low rent rendezvous.....
Any po... Sep 23, 2008, 07:22 AM
lucid_dream i agree with Rick. Also, reincarnation is not par... Sep 21, 2008, 12:28 PM
Orbz
Basically, I am searching for total understanding... Sep 22, 2008, 09:18 AM
graywulf
Im not completely sure if I am posting on the rig... Sep 22, 2008, 03:24 PM
Joesus
Rawlinson,
You need understand that no one can u... Sep 22, 2008, 04:26 PM
graywulf
Rawlinson,
You need understand that no one can ... Sep 22, 2008, 05:30 PM
lucid_dream has a ring of dogmatism, graywulf Sep 22, 2008, 03:33 PM
graywulf
has a ring of dogmatism, graywulf
What do you m... Sep 22, 2008, 03:40 PM
graywulf
has a ring of dogmatism, graywulf
Maybe so, may... Sep 22, 2008, 05:24 PM
lucid_dream I say Indian way is "good way" to begin.... Sep 22, 2008, 05:55 PM
graywulf
I say Indian way is "good way" to begin... Sep 22, 2008, 06:01 PM
lucid_dream Who you know who understand God? Do you understan... Sep 22, 2008, 06:05 PM

graywulf
Who you know who understand God? Do you understa... Sep 22, 2008, 07:14 PM
Joesus
Hinduism is not advanced, it, like Christianity... Sep 22, 2008, 06:06 PM
graywulf
Hinduism is not advanced, it, like Christianit... Sep 22, 2008, 07:12 PM
Joesus
Joseph,
You are one sly white man
Who said I wa... Sep 22, 2008, 07:18 PM
graywulf
Joseph,
You are one sly white man
Who said I w... Sep 22, 2008, 07:38 PM
Rick From Dictionary.com:
"unfounded positiveness... Sep 22, 2008, 03:57 PM
graywulf
From Dictionary.com:
"unfounded positivenes... Sep 23, 2008, 11:12 AM
Joesus No need to understand religions. They all are fal... Sep 22, 2008, 07:54 PM
graywulf
No need to understand religions. They all are fa... Sep 22, 2008, 08:43 PM
Joesus
Ah Joseph, you get part of it right and part o... Sep 23, 2008, 12:08 AM
graywulf
Ah Joseph, you get part of it right and part ... Sep 23, 2008, 06:13 AM
Joesus
Grandfather said, In the beginning was the Ear... Sep 23, 2008, 09:34 AM
graywulf
[quote name='tonto' post='92785' date='Sep 23, 20... Sep 23, 2008, 10:24 AM

Joesus
Oh, great wise one. So, this is what you think... Sep 23, 2008, 10:34 AM
Rick We'll leave the light on for ya...
Thanks. I... Sep 23, 2008, 11:13 AM
Joesus
We'll leave the light on for ya...
Thanks. ... Sep 23, 2008, 11:19 AM
lucid_dream how old are you, graywulf? I ask because, well, I... Sep 23, 2008, 07:16 AM
lucid_dream graywulf, I think you're taking the multiplici... Sep 23, 2008, 10:29 AM
graywulf
graywulf, I think you're taking the multiplic... Sep 23, 2008, 10:34 AM
Joesus
I take it as it is. I do not interpret it, li... Sep 23, 2008, 10:55 AM
graywulf
I take it as it is. I do not interpret it, l... Sep 23, 2008, 11:03 AM
Joesus I can only reflect what you are actually giving me... Sep 23, 2008, 11:12 AM
graywulf
I can only reflect what you are actually giving m... Sep 23, 2008, 11:23 AM
Joesus American Indian Myths
American Indian tribes shar... Sep 23, 2008, 11:18 AM
lucid_dream Wow, Indian mythology is quite imaginative, like a... Sep 23, 2008, 12:01 PM
graywulf
Wow, Indian mythology is quite imaginative, like ... Sep 25, 2008, 03:49 PM
Joesus From wiki:
Deloria was criticized for his embrace ... Sep 25, 2008, 04:10 PM
graywulf
From wiki:
Deloria was criticized for his embrace... Sep 25, 2008, 04:33 PM
Joesus One of my many, but not so famous talents. Sep 25, 2008, 04:55 PM
graywulf
One of my many, but not so famous talents.
Do y... Sep 25, 2008, 08:22 PM
Joesus
One of my many, but not so famous talents.
Do ... Sep 25, 2008, 08:48 PM
Lindsay ABOUT REINCARNATION, which I look at with an open... Sep 25, 2008, 08:36 PM
Rick ... There are several passages in the Bible, inclu... Sep 26, 2008, 07:14 AM
Joesus The condition of the mind and body directly affect... Sep 26, 2008, 11:08 AM
Lindsay THE BAD NEW IS
Rick, as you say, "Human memo... Sep 26, 2008, 12:12 PM
Rick ... Without any prompting from us, Catherine did h... Sep 26, 2008, 12:56 PM
trojan_libido Mr. Dream, you are most wrong. Hinduism is not adv... Oct 02, 2008, 12:53 AM
Rick @Rick/Lindsay: I dont believe reincarnation can b... Oct 02, 2008, 07:01 AM
trojan_libido Animism tends to include shamanic practices which ... Oct 04, 2008, 02:37 AM
Lindsay TL, this also fits in with the concept of reincar... Oct 04, 2008, 11:11 AM
Joesus
NATURE/NURTURE; HEREDITY/ENVIRONMENT
At this po... Oct 05, 2008, 09:50 AM
Lindsay Sure as shootin', some self-appointed, long-w... Oct 05, 2008, 04:43 PM
Joesus
Some self appointed Guru might, but the statemen... Oct 05, 2008, 05:04 PM
trojan_libido Disappointed that this thread is beginning to go o... Oct 05, 2008, 11:08 PM
Joesus
Disappointed that this thread is beginning to go ... Oct 05, 2008, 11:14 PM
graywulf
Disappointed that this thread is beginning to go... Oct 06, 2008, 07:55 AM
trojan_libido fractal expressions can be recursive linear functi... Oct 06, 2008, 08:46 AM
Lindsay RECENTLY, IN SCIENCE-AGOGO, I WROTE THE FOLLOWING.... Oct 06, 2008, 10:20 AM
Joesus
RECENTLY, IN SCIENCE-AGOGO, I WROTE THE FOLLOWING... Oct 06, 2008, 11:06 AM
trojan_libido I'm sorry if I've ever come across as a wi... Oct 06, 2008, 12:00 PM
Lindsay TL:
Your comment about "the spirit animating ... Oct 06, 2008, 08:46 PM
Hey Hey Is the past life of mentally deficient humans rele... Oct 06, 2008, 09:00 PM
Joesus Contrast is sometimes relevant to making a change.... Oct 06, 2008, 10:14 PM
trojan_libido Is the past life of mentally deficient humans rele... Oct 06, 2008, 11:05 PM
Joesus Nice. Oct 07, 2008, 12:46 AM
Phi Here's one: If you had the choice to believe i... Oct 07, 2008, 05:05 AM
Rick If you must believe, then believe in Zeus, the fat... Oct 07, 2008, 07:14 AM
trojan_libido If your going to believe in an artistic representa... Oct 07, 2008, 09:09 AM
trojan_libido 1. God exists
2. God does not exist
In #1, non-be... Oct 07, 2008, 09:20 AM
Rick Seriously though, can someone answer me a question... Oct 07, 2008, 11:04 AM
trojan_libido How do you move mass without expending energy? Oct 07, 2008, 11:43 AM
Rick
How do you move mass without expending energy?
Re... Oct 07, 2008, 12:13 PM
trojan_libido I understand what your saying, but complete energy... Oct 07, 2008, 01:52 PM
Rick You realise what I'm asking is whether polarit... Oct 07, 2008, 02:48 PM
Phi Well, that's how I started out, although I did... Oct 07, 2008, 02:30 PM
trojan_libido Consciousness, or at least brain activity, is defi... Oct 07, 2008, 11:29 PM
Rick What's so special about the number two? Why no... Oct 08, 2008, 07:44 AM
trojan_libido Simply mathematical order, 1 then 2! When did... Oct 08, 2008, 11:23 PM
Rick A tripod is the most stable structure. The prieste... Oct 09, 2008, 07:29 AM
P.j.S
A tripod is the most stable structure. The priest... Oct 03, 2009, 08:59 AM
Hey Hey Just because evolution hasn't invented a third... Oct 03, 2009, 09:10 AM
P JayS
Just because evolution hasn't invented a thir... Sep 15, 2012, 06:10 AM
Rick As we move further into abstraction (subatomic, qu... Oct 09, 2008, 02:18 PM
trojan_libido We've only just began to explore fractal mathe... Oct 09, 2008, 02:45 PM
Rick But fractals do not accurately describe trees, clo... Oct 09, 2008, 03:17 PM
trojan_libido Thats a non-issue really. It is massively more re... Oct 10, 2008, 02:49 AM![]() ![]() |
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