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Rawlinson
post Sep 20, 2008, 04:19 AM
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Im not completely sure if I am posting on the right forum, but for starters I was a christian for a period of time and became confused on how the Bible should be interpreted this lead me to believe that I may be wrong. I then went onto this website and learnt of the Indian folk-tale of the elephant and the three blind men. The point of that story was that there are many interpretations (religions) but they are all of the same thing and only through understanding this can one totally understand God. After reading this I felt that I understood. I started looking into Hindu philosophy and the concept of reincarnation which I now feel is right. However, I am still confused as to where I should begin, I have contemplated reading the Bhagavad Gita and other Hindu literature so as to understand because as far as I know (or think I know) already, in Hinduism, no belief should be considered wrong as they all stem from Brahman who is within everything. This is why I have considered Hinduism.

Is it possible that I can understand God through Hinduism, or should I look to other scripture and consider Hinduism as part of it all? Basically, I am searching for total understanding of God, and I don't know where to begin. I would like it if your answers would not dictate what I should do as I would like to understand myself but I feel I need a 'sign-post at the crossroads' as it were to point down the right direction without forcing me along the way.

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post Oct 06, 2008, 10:20 AM
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RECENTLY, IN SCIENCE-AGOGO, I WROTE THE FOLLOWING. IT HAS TO WITH A SERIES OF POSTS BY ONE WHO--AND I ADMIT THAT THIS IS JUST MY OPINION--IMPLIES HE HAS THE TRUTH
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Posters, beware of gurus, even if you think this includes me--gurus who know little about who you really are and yet, as they tell you how you should live your life, they will tell you they have no ego to defend. Then with a wink and a whopper--told with love, of course--they will also to proceed to defend their ego anyway.... biggrin.gif Yes, in guru-land, just as in all the religions, there is an ample share of hypocrisy to deal with. So, right off the top, let us admit that, when it comes to be egotistic, we "all have sinned".

Recently, I said to TT--the login in of the poster in question: Except through your posts here, I do not know you all that well. Without intending to be personal, pardon me for expressing what I think and how I feel about, not you , but some of your posts.

Your posts keep on telling me and others what we should, must and ought to believe to be the truth. You may not attend this, but you give us the impression that you are a guru wannabe. I hope that this is not true and, unless you want to stifle dialogue, some us hope your future posts will reflect that you are not.

Obviously, in this medium, I cannot tell you to your face what I think of your posts, so here I will simply ask:
Would you please limit you comments here to your opinion on the topic--your philosophy of religion, your goals, dreams, ideals and the like. Stop suggesting that we readers are what you imply we are.

Sure, opinion offered with respect is always worthy of respect. It is also okay for you to say, politely however, how you feel about what I--Tolle, or anyone--write. The same is true of when I write about how I live from day to day, about my family, church, community; my reputation, what I fear and don't fear--things, BTW, which you keep to yourself--which, if this is your choice, is OK by me. BTW, I happen to be the curious and open-faced type.

BUT THERE ARE LIMITS
But the freedom to opine, does not give anyone the right to admonish and judge others on and on. That is, to tell others what they should and ought to be, be afraid of and do. Let all people, including you, deal with their ego in their own way and time.

BTW, speaking about dialogue: I would like to encourage our new poster, Iehe, to stay more involved, and I invite others to get involved. Let us not allow any new poster to get killed in the crossfire of what I feel--notice the word I use, feel--is a duel between a couple of defensive, egotistic windbags.

Or, perhaps you would you like to ask the moderators for an opinion.
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QUOTE(Lindsay @ Oct 06, 2008, 06:20 PM) *

RECENTLY, IN SCIENCE-AGOGO, I WROTE THE FOLLOWING REGARDING ONE WHO INSISTS THAT HE HAS THE TRUTH
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Posters, beware of gurus, including me, who know little about you; who tell you they have no ego to defend. Then with a wink and a whopper--told with love, of course--they proceed to defend it anyway.... biggrin.gif Yes, in guru-land, just as in the religions, we have our share of hypocrisy to deal with.

But seriously, I sad to TT: Except for your posts here, I do not know you all that well. Without trying to be personalBut, pardon me for expressing what I think and how I feel about some of your posts:

When you keep on telling me and others what we should, must and ought to believe to be the truth, you give us the impression that you are a guru wannabe. I hope that this is not true and that, unless you want to stifle dialogue, your future posts will reflect that you are not.

Obviously I cannot tell you to your face what I think of you, so here I will simply ask:
Would you please limit you comments here to your opinion on the topic--your philosophy of religion, your goals, dreams, ideals and the like.

Sure, opinion offered with respect is always worthy of respect. It is okay for you to say, politely, how you feel about what I--Tolle, or anyone--write. The same is true about what I say about my own personf, about how I live from day to day, about my family, church, community; my reputation, what I fear and don't fear--things, BTW, which you keep to yourself--which, if this is your choice, is OK by me. I happen to be the curious and open-faced type.

But the freedom to opine, does not give anyone the right to admonish and judge others; to tell anyone what they should and ought to be, be afraid of and do. Let me, as I do you, deal with my ego in my own time.

BTW, speaking about dialogue: I would like to encourage Iehe--a new poster--to stay involved, and for others to get involved. Let us not allow any new poster to get killed in the crossfire of what I feel--notice the word I use--is a duel between a couple of defensive, egotistic windbags.

Or, perhaps you would you like to ask the moderators for an opinion.


Are you trolling for fish who might want to join you in conversation regarding a topic on another forum?
And are you looking for people to take sides?
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Rawlinson   former Christian searching for understanding of God, unsure where to begin   Sep 20, 2008, 04:19 AM
lucid_dream   the gita is a good place to start   Sep 20, 2008, 08:19 AM
Joesus   Sounds like you already had a start..   Sep 20, 2008, 10:58 AM
Rawlinson   Sounds like you already had a start.. Thanks fo...   Sep 20, 2008, 11:12 AM
Rick   ... I started looking into Hindu philosophy and th...   Sep 21, 2008, 12:11 PM
Joesus   ... I started looking into Hindu philosophy and t...   Sep 21, 2008, 01:16 PM
Rick   You are still assuming this particular planet host...   Sep 22, 2008, 12:30 PM
Joesus   You are still assuming this particular planet hos...   Sep 22, 2008, 04:18 PM
Rick   I don't think this particular civilization on ...   Sep 22, 2008, 04:45 PM
Joesus   I don't think this particular civilization on...   Sep 22, 2008, 06:02 PM
Rick   Third rate romance low rent rendezvous..... Any po...   Sep 23, 2008, 07:22 AM
lucid_dream   i agree with Rick. Also, reincarnation is not par...   Sep 21, 2008, 12:28 PM
Orbz   Basically, I am searching for total understanding...   Sep 22, 2008, 09:18 AM
graywulf   Im not completely sure if I am posting on the rig...   Sep 22, 2008, 03:24 PM
Joesus   Rawlinson, You need understand that no one can u...   Sep 22, 2008, 04:26 PM
graywulf   Rawlinson, You need understand that no one can ...   Sep 22, 2008, 05:30 PM
lucid_dream   has a ring of dogmatism, graywulf   Sep 22, 2008, 03:33 PM
graywulf   has a ring of dogmatism, graywulf What do you m...   Sep 22, 2008, 03:40 PM
graywulf   has a ring of dogmatism, graywulf Maybe so, may...   Sep 22, 2008, 05:24 PM
lucid_dream   I say Indian way is "good way" to begin....   Sep 22, 2008, 05:55 PM
graywulf   I say Indian way is "good way" to begin...   Sep 22, 2008, 06:01 PM
lucid_dream   Who you know who understand God? Do you understan...   Sep 22, 2008, 06:05 PM
graywulf   Who you know who understand God? Do you understa...   Sep 22, 2008, 07:14 PM
Joesus   Hinduism is not advanced, it, like Christianity...   Sep 22, 2008, 06:06 PM
graywulf   Hinduism is not advanced, it, like Christianit...   Sep 22, 2008, 07:12 PM
Joesus   Joseph, You are one sly white man Who said I wa...   Sep 22, 2008, 07:18 PM
graywulf   Joseph, You are one sly white man Who said I w...   Sep 22, 2008, 07:38 PM
Rick   From Dictionary.com: "unfounded positiveness...   Sep 22, 2008, 03:57 PM
graywulf   From Dictionary.com: "unfounded positivenes...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:12 AM
Joesus   No need to understand religions. They all are fal...   Sep 22, 2008, 07:54 PM
graywulf   No need to understand religions. They all are fa...   Sep 22, 2008, 08:43 PM
Joesus   Ah Joseph, you get part of it right and part o...   Sep 23, 2008, 12:08 AM
graywulf   Ah Joseph, you get part of it right and part ...   Sep 23, 2008, 06:13 AM
Joesus   Grandfather said, In the beginning was the Ear...   Sep 23, 2008, 09:34 AM
graywulf   [quote name='tonto' post='92785' date='Sep 23, 20...   Sep 23, 2008, 10:24 AM
Joesus   Oh, great wise one. So, this is what you think...   Sep 23, 2008, 10:34 AM
Rick   We'll leave the light on for ya... Thanks. I...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:13 AM
Joesus   We'll leave the light on for ya... Thanks. ...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:19 AM
lucid_dream   how old are you, graywulf? I ask because, well, I...   Sep 23, 2008, 07:16 AM
lucid_dream   graywulf, I think you're taking the multiplici...   Sep 23, 2008, 10:29 AM
graywulf   graywulf, I think you're taking the multiplic...   Sep 23, 2008, 10:34 AM
Joesus   I take it as it is. I do not interpret it, li...   Sep 23, 2008, 10:55 AM
graywulf   I take it as it is. I do not interpret it, l...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:03 AM
Joesus   I can only reflect what you are actually giving me...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:12 AM
graywulf   I can only reflect what you are actually giving m...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:23 AM
Joesus   American Indian Myths American Indian tribes shar...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:18 AM
lucid_dream   Wow, Indian mythology is quite imaginative, like a...   Sep 23, 2008, 12:01 PM
graywulf   Wow, Indian mythology is quite imaginative, like ...   Sep 25, 2008, 03:49 PM
Joesus   From wiki: Deloria was criticized for his embrace ...   Sep 25, 2008, 04:10 PM
graywulf   From wiki: Deloria was criticized for his embrace...   Sep 25, 2008, 04:33 PM
Joesus   One of my many, but not so famous talents.   Sep 25, 2008, 04:55 PM
graywulf   One of my many, but not so famous talents. Do y...   Sep 25, 2008, 08:22 PM
Joesus   One of my many, but not so famous talents. Do ...   Sep 25, 2008, 08:48 PM
Lindsay   ABOUT REINCARNATION, which I look at with an open...   Sep 25, 2008, 08:36 PM
Rick   ... There are several passages in the Bible, inclu...   Sep 26, 2008, 07:14 AM
Joesus   The condition of the mind and body directly affect...   Sep 26, 2008, 11:08 AM
Lindsay   THE BAD NEW IS Rick, as you say, "Human memo...   Sep 26, 2008, 12:12 PM
Rick   ... Without any prompting from us, Catherine did h...   Sep 26, 2008, 12:56 PM
trojan_libido   Mr. Dream, you are most wrong. Hinduism is not adv...   Oct 02, 2008, 12:53 AM
Rick   @Rick/Lindsay: I dont believe reincarnation can b...   Oct 02, 2008, 07:01 AM
trojan_libido   Animism tends to include shamanic practices which ...   Oct 04, 2008, 02:37 AM
Lindsay   TL, this also fits in with the concept of reincar...   Oct 04, 2008, 11:11 AM
Joesus   NATURE/NURTURE; HEREDITY/ENVIRONMENT At this po...   Oct 05, 2008, 09:50 AM
Lindsay   Sure as shootin', some self-appointed, long-w...   Oct 05, 2008, 04:43 PM
Joesus   Some self appointed Guru might, but the statemen...   Oct 05, 2008, 05:04 PM
trojan_libido   Disappointed that this thread is beginning to go o...   Oct 05, 2008, 11:08 PM
Joesus   Disappointed that this thread is beginning to go ...   Oct 05, 2008, 11:14 PM
graywulf   Disappointed that this thread is beginning to go...   Oct 06, 2008, 07:55 AM
trojan_libido   fractal expressions can be recursive linear functi...   Oct 06, 2008, 08:46 AM
Lindsay   RECENTLY, IN SCIENCE-AGOGO, I WROTE THE FOLLOWING....   Oct 06, 2008, 10:20 AM
Joesus   RECENTLY, IN SCIENCE-AGOGO, I WROTE THE FOLLOWING...   Oct 06, 2008, 11:06 AM
trojan_libido   I'm sorry if I've ever come across as a wi...   Oct 06, 2008, 12:00 PM
Lindsay   TL: Your comment about "the spirit animating ...   Oct 06, 2008, 08:46 PM
Hey Hey   Is the past life of mentally deficient humans rele...   Oct 06, 2008, 09:00 PM
Joesus   Contrast is sometimes relevant to making a change....   Oct 06, 2008, 10:14 PM
trojan_libido   Is the past life of mentally deficient humans rele...   Oct 06, 2008, 11:05 PM
Joesus   Nice.   Oct 07, 2008, 12:46 AM
Phi   Here's one: If you had the choice to believe i...   Oct 07, 2008, 05:05 AM
Rick   If you must believe, then believe in Zeus, the fat...   Oct 07, 2008, 07:14 AM
trojan_libido   If your going to believe in an artistic representa...   Oct 07, 2008, 09:09 AM
trojan_libido   1. God exists 2. God does not exist In #1, non-be...   Oct 07, 2008, 09:20 AM
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trojan_libido   How do you move mass without expending energy?   Oct 07, 2008, 11:43 AM
Rick   How do you move mass without expending energy? Re...   Oct 07, 2008, 12:13 PM
trojan_libido   I understand what your saying, but complete energy...   Oct 07, 2008, 01:52 PM
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Phi   Well, that's how I started out, although I did...   Oct 07, 2008, 02:30 PM
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P.j.S   A tripod is the most stable structure. The priest...   Oct 03, 2009, 08:59 AM
Hey Hey   Just because evolution hasn't invented a third...   Oct 03, 2009, 09:10 AM
P JayS   Just because evolution hasn't invented a thir...   Sep 15, 2012, 06:10 AM
trojan_libido   The Oracles of Delphi seem to have been poor girls...   Oct 09, 2008, 02:13 PM
Rick   As we move further into abstraction (subatomic, qu...   Oct 09, 2008, 02:18 PM
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Rick   But fractals do not accurately describe trees, clo...   Oct 09, 2008, 03:17 PM
trojan_libido   Thats a non-issue really. It is massively more re...   Oct 10, 2008, 02:49 AM


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