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Rawlinson
post Sep 20, 2008, 04:19 AM
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Im not completely sure if I am posting on the right forum, but for starters I was a christian for a period of time and became confused on how the Bible should be interpreted this lead me to believe that I may be wrong. I then went onto this website and learnt of the Indian folk-tale of the elephant and the three blind men. The point of that story was that there are many interpretations (religions) but they are all of the same thing and only through understanding this can one totally understand God. After reading this I felt that I understood. I started looking into Hindu philosophy and the concept of reincarnation which I now feel is right. However, I am still confused as to where I should begin, I have contemplated reading the Bhagavad Gita and other Hindu literature so as to understand because as far as I know (or think I know) already, in Hinduism, no belief should be considered wrong as they all stem from Brahman who is within everything. This is why I have considered Hinduism.

Is it possible that I can understand God through Hinduism, or should I look to other scripture and consider Hinduism as part of it all? Basically, I am searching for total understanding of God, and I don't know where to begin. I would like it if your answers would not dictate what I should do as I would like to understand myself but I feel I need a 'sign-post at the crossroads' as it were to point down the right direction without forcing me along the way.

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post Sep 22, 2008, 03:33 PM
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has a ring of dogmatism, graywulf
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QUOTE(lucid_dream @ Sep 22, 2008, 03:33 PM) *

has a ring of dogmatism, graywulf


Maybe so, maybe not so. Indian say no one understand God. I say this is true. Do you understand God, dream? Do you know anyone who understands God? Whre is dogmatism here?

I say Indian way is "good way" to begin. Where is dogmatism here?

I then describe Indian relationship with mother and father. Where is dogmatism there?
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QUOTE(graywulf @ Sep 22, 2008, 06:24 PM) *
I say Indian way is "good way" to begin.

maybe if you mean Indian, as in Hinduism. wink.gif Native americans indian mythology/spirituality is not on a par with that expounded in the gita and upanishads.

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Where is dogmatism here?

what you said is "You need understand that no one can understand God", which is a dogmatic statement. It's your unsubstantiated belief, nothing more. If God is immanent within us, then what is there to understand of God beyond this universal awareness? Are you granting God a personality with unfathomable motives?


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Rawlinson   former Christian searching for understanding of God, unsure where to begin   Sep 20, 2008, 04:19 AM
lucid_dream   the gita is a good place to start   Sep 20, 2008, 08:19 AM
Joesus   Sounds like you already had a start..   Sep 20, 2008, 10:58 AM
Rawlinson   Sounds like you already had a start.. Thanks fo...   Sep 20, 2008, 11:12 AM
Rick   ... I started looking into Hindu philosophy and th...   Sep 21, 2008, 12:11 PM
Joesus   ... I started looking into Hindu philosophy and t...   Sep 21, 2008, 01:16 PM
Rick   You are still assuming this particular planet host...   Sep 22, 2008, 12:30 PM
Joesus   You are still assuming this particular planet hos...   Sep 22, 2008, 04:18 PM
Rick   I don't think this particular civilization on ...   Sep 22, 2008, 04:45 PM
Joesus   I don't think this particular civilization on...   Sep 22, 2008, 06:02 PM
Rick   Third rate romance low rent rendezvous..... Any po...   Sep 23, 2008, 07:22 AM
lucid_dream   i agree with Rick. Also, reincarnation is not par...   Sep 21, 2008, 12:28 PM
Orbz   Basically, I am searching for total understanding...   Sep 22, 2008, 09:18 AM
graywulf   Im not completely sure if I am posting on the rig...   Sep 22, 2008, 03:24 PM
Joesus   Rawlinson, You need understand that no one can u...   Sep 22, 2008, 04:26 PM
graywulf   Rawlinson, You need understand that no one can ...   Sep 22, 2008, 05:30 PM
lucid_dream   has a ring of dogmatism, graywulf   Sep 22, 2008, 03:33 PM
graywulf   has a ring of dogmatism, graywulf What do you m...   Sep 22, 2008, 03:40 PM
graywulf   has a ring of dogmatism, graywulf Maybe so, may...   Sep 22, 2008, 05:24 PM
lucid_dream   I say Indian way is "good way" to begin....   Sep 22, 2008, 05:55 PM
graywulf   I say Indian way is "good way" to begin...   Sep 22, 2008, 06:01 PM
lucid_dream   Who you know who understand God? Do you understan...   Sep 22, 2008, 06:05 PM
graywulf   Who you know who understand God? Do you understa...   Sep 22, 2008, 07:14 PM
Joesus   Hinduism is not advanced, it, like Christianity...   Sep 22, 2008, 06:06 PM
graywulf   Hinduism is not advanced, it, like Christianit...   Sep 22, 2008, 07:12 PM
Joesus   Joseph, You are one sly white man Who said I wa...   Sep 22, 2008, 07:18 PM
graywulf   Joseph, You are one sly white man Who said I w...   Sep 22, 2008, 07:38 PM
Rick   From Dictionary.com: "unfounded positiveness...   Sep 22, 2008, 03:57 PM
graywulf   From Dictionary.com: "unfounded positivenes...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:12 AM
Joesus   No need to understand religions. They all are fal...   Sep 22, 2008, 07:54 PM
graywulf   No need to understand religions. They all are fa...   Sep 22, 2008, 08:43 PM
Joesus   Ah Joseph, you get part of it right and part o...   Sep 23, 2008, 12:08 AM
graywulf   Ah Joseph, you get part of it right and part ...   Sep 23, 2008, 06:13 AM
Joesus   Grandfather said, In the beginning was the Ear...   Sep 23, 2008, 09:34 AM
graywulf   [quote name='tonto' post='92785' date='Sep 23, 20...   Sep 23, 2008, 10:24 AM
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Rick   We'll leave the light on for ya... Thanks. I...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:13 AM
Joesus   We'll leave the light on for ya... Thanks. ...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:19 AM
lucid_dream   how old are you, graywulf? I ask because, well, I...   Sep 23, 2008, 07:16 AM
lucid_dream   graywulf, I think you're taking the multiplici...   Sep 23, 2008, 10:29 AM
graywulf   graywulf, I think you're taking the multiplic...   Sep 23, 2008, 10:34 AM
Joesus   I take it as it is. I do not interpret it, li...   Sep 23, 2008, 10:55 AM
graywulf   I take it as it is. I do not interpret it, l...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:03 AM
Joesus   I can only reflect what you are actually giving me...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:12 AM
graywulf   I can only reflect what you are actually giving m...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:23 AM
Joesus   American Indian Myths American Indian tribes shar...   Sep 23, 2008, 11:18 AM
lucid_dream   Wow, Indian mythology is quite imaginative, like a...   Sep 23, 2008, 12:01 PM
graywulf   Wow, Indian mythology is quite imaginative, like ...   Sep 25, 2008, 03:49 PM
Joesus   From wiki: Deloria was criticized for his embrace ...   Sep 25, 2008, 04:10 PM
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graywulf   One of my many, but not so famous talents. Do y...   Sep 25, 2008, 08:22 PM
Joesus   One of my many, but not so famous talents. Do ...   Sep 25, 2008, 08:48 PM
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