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post Jul 23, 2008, 07:59 AM
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The Ten Commandments:

1) You shall have no other Gods before me.

2) You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

3) You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.

4) Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

5) Honor your mother and father.

6) You shall not murder.

7) You shall not commit adultry.

8) You shall not steal.

9) You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

10) You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.



These are commandments which aim to supress the selfish desires of the Ego. Killing, lying, giving in to sensual pleasure and materialism, envying, worshiping idles...These are all actions which one is tempted to do by the Ego, but do not help one attain peace and enlightenment. You shall not take the Lord's name in vain. You should not believe that the Ego is more significant than God, than Totality.

I think by honoring one's mother and father, one should be honoring all who have more experience in the world. The elders, the wise ones. It is with their help that we gain knowledge and truth.

Remember the sabbath day. I am not quite sure the function of this commandment. Could it be that we live in such a complicated social world that it is to our benefit to devote a full day of the week to ourselves and our own meditation?

You shall have no other Gods before me. What is meant by this? I guess it depends on what is meant by God. If God is Totality, then this commandment is reminding us that God is more significant than the Ego, and that the Ego is only a part of God.

I think problems begin to arise when God is viewed as a separate entity from us. The other commandments seem to suggest that problems arise when the Ego is viewed as separate from God, so how can God be viewed as separate from the Ego? This first commandment should not be interpreted to mean that we should close our minds to other opinions of Truth. This would be a hinderence to our own understanding of Truth. Unfortunately, I think that many religions think this way...I think that many religions misunderstand the Ten Commandments, especially the First.
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post Jul 31, 2008, 03:02 PM
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The scientific method isn't absolute, but provides a means to approach reliable knowledge.
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QUOTE(Rick @ Jul 31, 2008, 03:02 PM) *

The scientific method isn't absolute, but provides a means to approach reliable knowledge.
I agree. Otherwise, why would it be part of GOD, which I believe it is.
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post Jul 31, 2008, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(Lindsay @ Jul 31, 2008, 04:31 PM) *

QUOTE(Rick @ Jul 31, 2008, 03:02 PM) *

The scientific method isn't absolute, but provides a means to approach reliable knowledge.
I agree. Otherwise, why would it be part of GOD, which I believe it is.


Why couldn't the definition of God be redefined through enlightenment to include the scientific method, or has the idea of God been too tainted and abused in the past to ever reclaim what was originally intended?
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QUOTE(Phi @ Jul 31, 2008, 06:34 PM) *
Why couldn't the definition of God be redefined through enlightenment to include the scientific method, or has the idea of God been too tainted and abused in the past to ever reclaim what was originally intended?

Yes, too tainted and abused. Why carry all that old baggage (inquisition, witch burning, jihad)? I say throw that old word overboard. Splash. Lindsay, of course, disagrees, but he's rather old fashioned.
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QUOTE(Rick @ Aug 01, 2008, 04:39 PM) *

QUOTE(Phi @ Jul 31, 2008, 06:34 PM) *
Why couldn't the definition of God be redefined through enlightenment to include the scientific method, or has the idea of God been too tainted and abused in the past to ever reclaim what was originally intended?

Yes, too tainted and abused. Why carry all that old baggage (inquisition, witch burning, jihad)? I say throw that old word overboard. Splash. Lindsay, of course, disagrees, but he's rather old fashioned.

The ego is always responsible for trying to change God into something perfect, whether it be inquisitions, witch burnings, Jihad or changing the name of God to G'd. It is because of self absorption that the eye does not see, the ears do not hear and the mouth revels in the dogma of personal opinion and self aggrandizement.

God itself is never really born of the decoration of personal ideas and superstition, only religion is born of personal ideas and superstition, or ego.
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boots   The Ten Commandments   Jul 23, 2008, 07:59 AM
boots   Rather than interpreting this positively as ...   Jul 23, 2008, 09:33 AM
Joesus   It's only confusing if you don't know God....   Jul 23, 2008, 10:37 AM
boots   What were they meant for? What is your take on ...   Jul 23, 2008, 10:53 AM
Rick   Only the first pillar of Islam gets it part right:...   Jul 23, 2008, 11:37 AM
boots   There is defintely something. God doesn't hav...   Jul 23, 2008, 11:44 AM
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boots   It is certainly true that "God" invites ...   Jul 23, 2008, 12:05 PM
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boots   I doubt it. I think belief is evolving from primi...   Jul 24, 2008, 07:43 AM
boots   Atheism seems to mirror nihilism, doesn't it? ...   Jul 23, 2008, 03:34 PM
Rick   No. There is no practical way to distinguish a uni...   Jul 23, 2008, 03:50 PM
boots   No. There is no practical way to distinguish a un...   Jul 24, 2008, 07:04 AM
Charity7   No. There is no practical way to distinguish a u...   Aug 05, 2008, 06:15 AM
Rick   Love is an emotion just like any other, and a surv...   Aug 05, 2008, 06:52 AM
boots   I think it is mostly an argument over words. Word...   Jul 23, 2008, 03:55 PM
Joesus   Those with the ears to hear and the eyes to see.....   Jul 23, 2008, 04:21 PM
Rick   I'm not following your reference to "ther...   Jul 24, 2008, 11:54 AM
Phi   I'm not following your reference to "the...   Jul 30, 2008, 05:46 AM
Joesus   Everything about religion is a form of Atheism, i...   Jul 24, 2008, 09:07 AM
Joesus   Well, if the divine could be packaged into a neat ...   Jul 24, 2008, 12:45 PM
Rick   I'd be satisfied with just some repeatable mag...   Jul 24, 2008, 01:51 PM
Lindsay   I'd be satisfied with just some repeatable ma...   Jul 28, 2008, 08:06 PM
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Rick   It's unethical to misrepresent the statements ...   Jul 29, 2008, 09:21 AM
Rick   Something capable of acting or having an effect on...   Jul 30, 2008, 11:48 AM
Phi   Something capable of acting or having an effect o...   Jul 30, 2008, 01:37 PM
Rick   What if the agency lives through us, or, what if w...   Jul 30, 2008, 02:08 PM
Phi   What if the agency lives through us, or, what if ...   Jul 30, 2008, 02:18 PM
Lindsay   What if the agency lives through us, or, what if w...   Jul 31, 2008, 06:52 AM
Phi   What if the agency lives through us, or, what if ...   Aug 01, 2008, 04:35 PM
Rick   Here's the problem: there is no way to tell th...   Jul 30, 2008, 02:45 PM
Phi   Here's the problem: there is no way to tell t...   Jul 30, 2008, 03:02 PM
Lindsay   ... so the default position is atheism, since it...   Jul 30, 2008, 05:56 PM
Rick   That's just mind management, isn't it?   Jul 30, 2008, 03:43 PM
Phi   That's just mind management, isn't it? ...   Jul 31, 2008, 02:12 PM
Rick   Right, secret knowledge, hidden in plain sight. R...   Jul 31, 2008, 07:00 AM
Rick   The main idea is to promote positive action over w...   Jul 31, 2008, 02:39 PM
Joesus   How do you separate the two, absolutely?   Jul 31, 2008, 02:51 PM
Rick   The scientific method isn't absolute, but prov...   Jul 31, 2008, 03:02 PM
Lindsay   The scientific method isn't absolute, but pro...   Jul 31, 2008, 03:31 PM
Phi   The scientific method isn't absolute, but pr...   Jul 31, 2008, 05:34 PM
Lindsay   [quote name='Lindsay' post='90844' date='Jul 31, ...   Jul 31, 2008, 09:44 PM
Rick   Why couldn't the definition of God be redefine...   Aug 01, 2008, 08:39 AM
Joesus   Why couldn't the definition of God be redefin...   Aug 01, 2008, 08:50 AM
Phi   Why couldn't the definition of God be redefin...   Aug 01, 2008, 12:53 PM
Lindsay   [quote name='Phi' post='90850' date='Jul 31, 2008...   Aug 01, 2008, 01:45 PM
Joesus   The scientific method isn't absolute, but pro...   Jul 31, 2008, 03:50 PM
Rick   ... But it was found that what is said affects the...   Jul 31, 2008, 04:00 PM
Joesus   Conscious awareness or enlightenment. Which bring...   Jul 31, 2008, 04:05 PM
Rick   The shaman's method, of course, because he kno...   Jul 31, 2008, 04:47 PM
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Phi   It's sort of like the spread of Christianity:...   Aug 01, 2008, 01:07 PM
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Phi   The trouble with not alienating religious folk is...   Aug 01, 2008, 12:59 PM
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