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post May 28, 2008, 02:11 PM
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This is a forum about the human brain so I think i'm at the right place to suggest to start a topic about this.

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post Jun 05, 2008, 08:06 PM
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You know Joesus I really wanted to comment to what your saying but I won't, the main reason I opened this thread is because in my opinion the 'phropets' had nothing more or nothing less then a brain desease what is called Schizophrenia nowadays.

Well it looks like you did comment even tho you said you won't. By the way I had an opinion once...

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They just spread 'gods wise words' at the right time and place.

Gods words!!??...Say hallelujah!!! wub.gif
This brings up an interesting idea. Evidently you are saying one thing and doing another, do you think you are schizophrenic, and do you believe that God is a schizophrenic delusion because of what you have been told by some authority, or because of what one of you has told the other of you?

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Even a healthy person can have a experience with 'god' etc. just by poppin' a LSD stamp.

A healthy person can have an experience of God without creating an altered state of mind through artificial means. The experience is much more grounded in the sense of real perception and it is most likely that the doubts that follow the use of hallucinogenics as to whether the experience was real or not, will not plague ones senses when they trip again and fail to have the same experience.
Generally speaking when one experiences God in a normal state of mind the experiences may change but the presence of God does not, and it does not leave ones senses as it does when one trips.

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From this point I do want to continue...
This is good, then I won't have to answer the second person who repeated their statement that they weren't going to continue, the second time.

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The life on earth is a miracle, and that makes the universe a miracle, as the earth is part of the universe.
All those billions stars and planets, it's just one of my favorites to think about, that we are possibly not alone, if we ever can travel at the speed of light without getting vaporized to explore what else is out there.

Well your never alone if you're schizophrenic...
OK... joking aside. What makes something a miracle, is usually when the mind is stretched a bit and the left hemisphere of the brain is stimulated. It is the logical side of the brain where the right side is the intuitive side. Generally speaking most men are left brain dominant and women are right brain dominant, which is why men and women fail to see eye to eye all of the time.
As I mentioned once before if you were to bring a Television into the experience of someone from the dark ages they would think it was either a miracle or demonic. Since they were so superstitious they pretty much made anything that wasn't normal demonic, but if they were a bit more open minded and less paranoid they would have looked at the television with awe and amazement because they wouldn't have imagined something like it could be real and exist.
Such is the state of mind that human evolution creates when it doesn't understand something but sees it as a part of reality.
When science gets a hold of it and breaks it down, it doesn't become miraculous anymore it becomes mechanical. Just like when science gets a hold of someone experiencing split personalities, it breaks them down into mechanics that are relative to what is known as not a broken human.
100 years from now will science look at current technology as we do the dark ages?

Anyway God is mechanical as well as intelligent. Its reflected in us and in the universe. Nothing is random, everything is precisely located and has a perfect function. That it appears miraculous to us just means we can't wrap our limited minds or experience associated ideas around it. Best way to expand our sense of awareness is by changing the way we look at things and to look at it through a different set of eyes.
Hence the teachings of the Masters such as Jesus and Muhammad. They were hardly delusional, in fact they were pretty clear, while the rest of humanity during their time were still trying to match wits with the goats and the chickens. The men were treating their women like their livestock and most men weren't much smarter than their livestock.

The goats and chickens of that time were less worried about survival and superstitious phenomena than the humans, which I think put them ahead on the evolutionary scale. They probably would have dominated the planet as a species if they could have become a bit more aggressive and started eating the humans for food like the humans were doing to them, but being herbivores they didn't have a chance. wink.gif
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YoungS   God/Religion a creation of the powerfull human mind ?/!   May 28, 2008, 02:11 PM
Joesus   Good topic heading. Can't wait to see if you a...   May 28, 2008, 04:31 PM
Lindsay   This is a forum about the human brain so I think ...   May 29, 2008, 08:10 PM
trojan_libido   We are the Universe experiencing itself. That is ...   May 29, 2008, 11:24 PM
Lindsay   [b]We are the Universe experiencing itself. That...   May 30, 2008, 05:18 AM
Joesus   John 17 a translation from the Aramaic texts (the ...   May 30, 2008, 09:38 AM
YoungS   I started this topic because more than the half of...   May 31, 2008, 03:43 AM
Joesus   Survey says more than 90% which is substantially ...   May 31, 2008, 11:31 AM
Lindsay   YoungS, the feedback you just received from Joesu...   May 31, 2008, 01:55 PM
Joesus   God, beyond being encapsulated in experience doe...   May 31, 2008, 02:21 PM
YoungS   Joesus, No offence, but I don't know what the...   May 31, 2008, 03:18 PM
YoungS   Hey Lindsay, unitheist/panentheist I think thi...   May 31, 2008, 03:30 PM
Lindsay   Hey Lindsay, I think this is new for me, i...   May 31, 2008, 08:15 PM
Joesus   It would stand to reason if you don't know w...   May 31, 2008, 04:06 PM
Lindsay   YoungS: =======ooo000ooo====== I think of GØD a...   May 31, 2008, 08:33 PM
YoungS   hey guys i'll respond tuesday when I got my ne...   Jun 01, 2008, 04:11 AM
trojan_libido   Hearing someone elses voice in your own head is sc...   Jun 01, 2008, 11:35 PM
YoungS   The most of your post I don't know what you ...   Jun 03, 2008, 07:56 AM
YoungS   I agree Agree again, I could not come to a di...   Jun 03, 2008, 08:11 AM
YoungS   Sound more like a spiritual (connection to god) ...   Jun 03, 2008, 08:31 AM
Lindsay   Sounds, to me, more like a spiritual (connectio...   Jun 03, 2008, 09:43 AM
Joesus   That depends on whether you could comprehend the ...   Jun 03, 2008, 10:19 AM
YoungS   Hey Lindsay, thanks for correcting me. I am 24 ye...   Jun 03, 2008, 12:46 PM
lindsayking   Hey Lindsay, thanks for correcting me. I am 24 ...   Jun 03, 2008, 04:30 PM
YoungS   Joesus, I comparing it to the average religious...   Jun 03, 2008, 02:17 PM
Joesus   No, no need to be uptight but being truthful is ...   Jun 03, 2008, 08:13 PM
YoungS   You know Joesus I really wanted to comment to what...   Jun 05, 2008, 11:49 AM
Lindsay   YoungS, here is how I understand what you wrote: ...   Jun 05, 2008, 01:20 PM
YoungS   Lindsay, Yes it is almost fairly. You know, Jo...   Jun 05, 2008, 01:39 PM
Lindsay   Lindsay, Yes it is almost fairly. ... But my ques...   Jun 05, 2008, 02:08 PM
YoungS   From this point I do want to continue... The ...   Jun 05, 2008, 02:07 PM
Joesus   Well it looks like you did comment even tho you ...   Jun 05, 2008, 08:06 PM
YoungS   (1)yea I think that religious people are having...   Jun 06, 2008, 04:00 AM
YoungS   @ Lindsay, I prefer a debate. (1)true, that...   Jun 06, 2008, 05:27 AM
Joesus   1) If over 90% of the human race believes in a G...   Jun 06, 2008, 08:20 AM
Lindsay   YoungS, here is how I read you: I heard you say: ...   Jun 07, 2008, 09:08 AM
rhymer   Hello YoungS, First of all, I welcome you to Brai...   Jun 07, 2008, 02:49 PM
Lindsay   Hello YoungS, First of all, I welcome you to Bra...   Jun 08, 2008, 12:32 PM
Joesus   Who in hell would believe that!?......   Jun 07, 2008, 09:15 PM
rhymer   I don't believe there is a place called Hell s...   Jun 08, 2008, 09:05 AM
Joesus   Using that point of reference the quote: is misrep...   Jun 08, 2008, 11:34 AM
rhymer   Lindsay, In answer to your post..... I don't ...   Jun 09, 2008, 11:39 AM
Lindsay   Lindsay, In answer to your post ... I don't t...   Jun 10, 2008, 03:50 AM
Joesus   Finding any common truth, is impossible when no on...   Jun 09, 2008, 02:19 PM
rhymer   It is possible that a person who detects a Truth i...   Jun 09, 2008, 03:43 PM
Joesus   It is possible that a person who detects a Truth ...   Jun 09, 2008, 04:48 PM
Joesus   The ego is not an evil thing, however it is the o...   Jun 10, 2008, 08:36 AM
rhymer   To answer your questions Lindsay:- "I have ...   Jun 10, 2008, 12:15 PM
Joesus   Continuing from the last post in regards to Micah ...   Jun 10, 2008, 05:38 PM
Lindsay   Rhymer you write: "No God is required for tho...   Jun 10, 2008, 06:52 PM
YoungS   Joesus, If CERN research leads to more informatio...   Sep 24, 2008, 06:19 AM
Joesus   Joesus, If CERN research leads to more informati...   Sep 24, 2008, 10:31 AM
trojan_libido   @YoungS: I doubt Joesus thinks the Earth was creat...   Sep 24, 2008, 07:47 AM
Rick   Psychology isn't really a science, is it?   Sep 24, 2008, 08:26 AM
Lindsay   Psychology isn't really a science, is it?   Sep 24, 2008, 05:38 PM
Joesus   Psychology isn't really a science, is it? It...   Sep 24, 2008, 05:55 PM
trojan_libido   I thought we like to keep things based in science ...   Sep 24, 2008, 11:53 PM
Rick   Magic?   Sep 25, 2008, 07:18 AM
Joesus   Spiritual science.   Sep 25, 2008, 09:10 AM
Rick   With reproducible results?   Sep 25, 2008, 02:49 PM
Joesus   Most definitely. But repeatability doesn't a...   Sep 25, 2008, 04:19 PM
YoungS   If they find out the facts they want to find: CERN...   Sep 27, 2008, 02:06 PM
Joesus   If they find out the facts they want to find: CER...   Sep 28, 2008, 08:56 AM
trojan_libido   I don't think we have even the slightest handl...   Sep 28, 2008, 11:20 PM
YoungS   As for the question of our relation with God, I...   Sep 29, 2008, 02:47 PM
Joesus   One of CERN 'primairy' goal is to ...   Sep 30, 2008, 09:28 AM
trojan_libido   What people need to learn to do is to take unbelie...   Oct 01, 2008, 05:33 AM
Rick   If you replace the singularity from before the Big...   Oct 01, 2008, 07:21 AM
trojan_libido   I hope thats true rick, I'm rubbish at sarcasm...   Oct 01, 2008, 11:31 AM
Rick   I'm a straight shooter, generally. When I get ...   Oct 01, 2008, 12:33 PM
trojan_libido   Haha, yes I guess I used the term explusion subcon...   Oct 02, 2008, 03:46 AM
Joesus   Whatever takes place in the evolution of the speci...   Oct 02, 2008, 09:09 AM
trojan_libido   The way I see it the serpent is a symbol of the pa...   Oct 02, 2008, 10:57 PM
YoungS   @Jesoes I can make this statement because I gre...   Oct 05, 2008, 05:54 AM
Joesus   @Joesus I can make this statement because I gr...   Oct 05, 2008, 09:38 AM
YoungS   @ Trojan_Libido No comment, nice explanation of y...   Oct 05, 2008, 05:56 AM
trojan_libido   The name Jesus is an Anglicization of the Greek, i...   Oct 05, 2008, 11:20 PM
Rick   Is it co-incidence that Jesus came back to life in...   Oct 07, 2008, 06:15 AM
Hey Hey   It's autumn again. And more old chestnuts to j...   Oct 06, 2008, 07:29 PM
Joesus   If we overcome something to evolve beyond it, what...   Oct 07, 2008, 08:55 AM
Rick   Sounds like a paradox, doesn't it? The problem...   Oct 07, 2008, 10:58 AM
trojan_libido   Chasing ghosts through the tunnels of evolution...   Oct 07, 2008, 11:44 AM
YoungS   @ Joesus True, u can tell a child a fairy tail t...   Oct 09, 2008, 03:44 PM
Joesus   Weren't we discussing what is true rather th...   Oct 09, 2008, 06:46 PM
trojan_libido   Weak minded individuals who have been broken down ...   Oct 09, 2008, 11:48 PM
trojan_libido   I believe its a fine line for sure. But being awa...   Oct 10, 2008, 12:46 AM
YoungS   @ Joesus I might have gotten of track there, I a...   Oct 10, 2008, 03:28 PM
Joesus   It does not bother me what others think of me, ...   Oct 10, 2008, 06:05 PM
YoungS   U might wanna avoid the mushrooms, every year 5 t...   Oct 10, 2008, 03:54 PM
trojan_libido   You are completely wrong here. Only tobacco is co...   Oct 11, 2008, 03:26 AM
YoungS   First off all, I live in The Netherlands. This ...   Oct 11, 2008, 06:06 AM
trojan_libido   Unfortunately theres no age limit on mushroom sa...   Oct 12, 2008, 02:20 AM
YoungS   No, the major of Amsterdam came with that idea, h...   Oct 12, 2008, 03:12 AM
trojan_libido   I guess you were playing devils advocate then. Do...   Oct 14, 2008, 04:01 AM
Rick   ... 'Is the human mind a creation of the power...   Oct 14, 2008, 06:57 AM
trojan_libido   I used the term 'God process' as a referen...   Oct 14, 2008, 07:06 AM
Rick   I don't like the term "God" because ...   Oct 14, 2008, 07:56 AM
Joesus   Not liking something is not a reason to keep other...   Oct 14, 2008, 09:33 AM
Rick   Obviously "God" the word added enough in...   Oct 14, 2008, 12:54 PM
trojan_libido   People believe God created everything. I believe ...   Oct 14, 2008, 11:36 AM
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