| YoungS |
May 28, 2008, 02:11 PM
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This is a forum about the human brain so I think i'm at the right place to suggest to start a topic about this.
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| Joesus |
Jun 03, 2008, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE The most of your post I don't know what you talking about (because my bad english) but I said you have another interpretation of god his excistens than the average of the religious. That depends on whether you could comprehend the existence of God in the average religion. IF you are going to make a comparison you would first have to know what you are comparing it to. IF you are not familiar with the average religion then you couldn't make a comparison. If you are familiar, then what makes your experience of the average religion above the average so that you have an authoritative foundation in which to start? QUOTE I'd rather believe that some molucules (or whatever) bumped up in each other and gave us live then god created this all in 7 days Of course you would, because you think in terms that are familiar to you. That is why I said you have already made up your mind what you want to believe. You would rather, is a statement of preference. You have taken a stand and are wanting the stand to be dis-proven by someone else rather than to look for the possibilities otherwise through your own ability to open to possibility. If a person is truly open to possibility they don't put their preferences in front of them when they are moving forward. If you really want to know what 7 days are then you would have to search a bit deeper into scripture to understand what one day in the life of God is. I suggest you look into the vedic teachings and how they connect to astrology. You just might find the molecules were moving with intelligence rather than by accident. The idea that the universe came together by accident in such an order is similar to the idea that the Earth is flat, the imagination is sometimes connected to divine intelligence, and sometimes to the superstition of fear and ego. QUOTE When you were trippin' on acid? haha just kiddin'! Give me some examples, what things did you experienced? About the profets, I think that they didn't do any of them, it's more likely that they had visions on doing such things what brings me back to symptoms of schizophrenia/drug use. Give you some examples? You think the creation of the universe is a miracle, what makes it a miracle? If you had shown a television set to someone in the dark ages they would have called it the work of the devil. If you had stuck a needle and syringe with medicine into a sick person of the same time, the people would have said that you that you put something of the devil into them. When Jesus was healing the sick the pharisees said it was the work of the devil. Go figure people see things they don't understand and the first thing that comes to mind is to condemn the act and the experience from the fear that is stimulated by being in the unknown. People don't witness and experience miracles because they can't allow themselves to step out of the known and into the unknown. Several years ago a man came to a medical symposium to speak of a medical procedure that could detect pre-cancerous cells in women. The doctors in the building laughed the young man out of the meeting. The young man was Georgios Papanikolaou the man who is given credit for the widely used Pap smear. Anything I tell you is subject to your own ability to believe and you would rather believe what you can understand and what makes sense to you. You have a way to go before you can make sense of God, because right now you know nothing of God other than what you have been told or what you have read. And what you have read doesn't make sense to you. A college physics book doesn't make much sense to a 5 year old but then there is always room for growth and experience to prepare the 5 year old for greater comprehension. Science is driven to answer questions, and sometimes they ask the right questions but they are not always the majority nor the mainstream. The mainstream intellect is absorbed in books that are written ten or more years ago, and are self absorbed in the media which pumps people up with drama and information that is more of a distraction for the intellect than to really help anyone understand who and what they are. Schools don't teach the meaning of life because they do not know. People who are ripe to know are the ones who are opening to spirituality that goes far beyond the mainstream media and Churchianity. How would you convince me you are ready for a miracle or that you are beyond the limitations of rather believing in one thing and actually open to experience it all? What makes you different than someone from the dark ages who would cast accusation of dark forces? You've already jokingly thrown out the trippin on acid remark, and I'd say that says alot about your subconscious reactive mind. QUOTE Doing those things would not make them humans (made out of flesh and blood) would it? Jesus said he was the son of god, he got tortured and cruzified, for our sins? Or because he could not proof the miracles he claimed he did or could do? Why couldn't it make them humans of flesh and blood? Science says an atom is 90% empty space and everything is made of atoms according to science. So what does it mean to be made of flesh and blood that is made of atoms? Jesus was crucified because he was a threat to the existing hierarchy. What he was doing was beyond the acceptance of those who were losing power and respect as the people were being taught that the ability of survival was not dependent on what others told them, but what they could understand and experience themselves. The message Jesus was teaching was that universal mind is an intelligence that lives to create universes and that they were just as powerful. Just as science is learning today that what we think affects the very life within us and that we make ourselves sick by worry, and that we can heal ourselves just as easy by changing the way we think Jesus was speaking to the effect of mind being the master and the body the servant rather than the other way around. The human body is a microcosmic entity in a larger macrocosm, and the human mind/brain is a tuner for consciousness to connect the relative to the etheric absolute universal mind. The soul is an immortal spark not unlike an atom that can support a physical universe and still be 99% empty space, and it is intelligent as an atom has intelligence. Anyone can become self aware, witness their thoughts and experience themselves as not the thoughts they are thinking. But man has habitually taken their senses outward into the physical and identified with the solid matter, that is always breaking down in its temporary state of being. Death has become the belief of man rather than life eternal. Man would rather believe that by random happenstance he comes into the world of change for a few years in ignorance, accumulating a few memories, ages, becomes invalid and dies, than to believe he is any more than that. Most would prefer to believe their lives be defined by scientific methods, even tho science in the form of medicine produces doctors who are to be the experts for your health and longevity and have themselves an average lifespan of 60 some odd years. Jesus was a man who was trying to get a sleeping humanity to awaken to greater thinking, and 2000 years hasn't created much of a change in the way we think about ourselves and how we so easily give our attention to false prophets and politicians who would destroy mankind to accumulate more power. QUOTE By the way who or what is that actually tells you there is wisdom in the bible and the Qur'an? Is it someone else's idea or did you come up with that yourself? No, I just know that it has a collection of standards and values (note: standards and values, might not be the correct translation) in it. Setting standards is the way we objectify our knowledge into rules. It is the way the ego protects its individuality. However, standards are not universal by rule of individuality and are often oriented to beliefs rather than universal principals that apply regardless of beliefs or individuality. True wisdom doesn't come from rules or the ego. It comes to those who have experience in surrendering to that which is greater than individuality and any egoic standard of Earthly ruling. There is alot you don't see in the scripture and that is because you don't have a conscious experience of God. |
YoungS God/Religion a creation of the powerfull human mind ?/! May 28, 2008, 02:11 PM
Joesus Good topic heading. Can't wait to see if you a... May 28, 2008, 04:31 PM
Lindsay
This is a forum about the human brain so I think ... May 29, 2008, 08:10 PM
trojan_libido We are the Universe experiencing itself. That is ... May 29, 2008, 11:24 PM
Lindsay
[b]We are the Universe experiencing itself. That... May 30, 2008, 05:18 AM
Joesus John 17 a translation from the Aramaic texts (the ... May 30, 2008, 09:38 AM
YoungS I started this topic because more than the half of... May 31, 2008, 03:43 AM
Joesus
Survey says more than 90% which is substantially ... May 31, 2008, 11:31 AM
Lindsay YoungS, the feedback you just received from Joesu... May 31, 2008, 01:55 PM
Joesus
God, beyond being encapsulated in experience doe... May 31, 2008, 02:21 PM
YoungS Joesus,
No offence, but I don't know what the... May 31, 2008, 03:18 PM
YoungS Hey Lindsay,
unitheist/panentheist
I think thi... May 31, 2008, 03:30 PM
Lindsay
Hey Lindsay,
I think this is new for me, i... May 31, 2008, 08:15 PM
Joesus
It would stand to reason if you don't know w... May 31, 2008, 04:06 PM
Lindsay YoungS:
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I think of GØD a... May 31, 2008, 08:33 PM
YoungS hey guys i'll respond tuesday when I got my ne... Jun 01, 2008, 04:11 AM
trojan_libido Hearing someone elses voice in your own head is sc... Jun 01, 2008, 11:35 PM
YoungS
The most of your post I don't know what you ... Jun 03, 2008, 07:56 AM
YoungS
I agree
Agree again, I could not come to a di... Jun 03, 2008, 08:11 AM
YoungS
Sound more like a spiritual (connection to god) ... Jun 03, 2008, 08:31 AM
Lindsay
Sounds, to me, more like a spiritual (connectio... Jun 03, 2008, 09:43 AM
YoungS Hey Lindsay,
thanks for correcting me. I am 24 ye... Jun 03, 2008, 12:46 PM
lindsayking
Hey Lindsay, thanks for correcting me.
I am 24 ... Jun 03, 2008, 04:30 PM
YoungS Joesus,
I comparing it to the average religious... Jun 03, 2008, 02:17 PM
Joesus
No, no need to be uptight but being truthful is ... Jun 03, 2008, 08:13 PM
YoungS You know Joesus I really wanted to comment to what... Jun 05, 2008, 11:49 AM
Lindsay YoungS, here is how I understand what you wrote:
... Jun 05, 2008, 01:20 PM
YoungS Lindsay,
Yes it is almost fairly.
You know, Jo... Jun 05, 2008, 01:39 PM
Lindsay
Lindsay, Yes it is almost fairly. ... But my ques... Jun 05, 2008, 02:08 PM
YoungS
From this point I do want to continue...
The ... Jun 05, 2008, 02:07 PM
Joesus
Well it looks like you did comment even tho you ... Jun 05, 2008, 08:06 PM
YoungS
(1)yea I think that religious people are having... Jun 06, 2008, 04:00 AM
YoungS @ Lindsay,
I prefer a debate.
(1)true, that... Jun 06, 2008, 05:27 AM
Joesus
1) If over 90% of the human race believes in a G... Jun 06, 2008, 08:20 AM
Lindsay YoungS, here is how I read you:
I heard you say: ... Jun 07, 2008, 09:08 AM
rhymer Hello YoungS,
First of all, I welcome you to Brai... Jun 07, 2008, 02:49 PM
Lindsay
Hello YoungS,
First of all, I welcome you to Bra... Jun 08, 2008, 12:32 PM
Joesus
Who in hell would believe that!?...... Jun 07, 2008, 09:15 PM
rhymer I don't believe there is a place called Hell s... Jun 08, 2008, 09:05 AM
Joesus Using that point of reference the quote: is misrep... Jun 08, 2008, 11:34 AM
rhymer Lindsay,
In answer to your post.....
I don't ... Jun 09, 2008, 11:39 AM
Lindsay Lindsay,
In answer to your post ... I don't t... Jun 10, 2008, 03:50 AM
Joesus Finding any common truth, is impossible when no on... Jun 09, 2008, 02:19 PM
rhymer It is possible that a person who detects a Truth i... Jun 09, 2008, 03:43 PM
Joesus
It is possible that a person who detects a Truth ... Jun 09, 2008, 04:48 PM
Joesus
The ego is not an evil thing, however it is the o... Jun 10, 2008, 08:36 AM
rhymer To answer your questions Lindsay:-
"I have ... Jun 10, 2008, 12:15 PM
Joesus Continuing from the last post in regards to Micah ... Jun 10, 2008, 05:38 PM
Lindsay Rhymer you write: "No God is required for tho... Jun 10, 2008, 06:52 PM
YoungS Joesus,
If CERN research leads to more informatio... Sep 24, 2008, 06:19 AM
Joesus
Joesus,
If CERN research leads to more informati... Sep 24, 2008, 10:31 AM
trojan_libido @YoungS: I doubt Joesus thinks the Earth was creat... Sep 24, 2008, 07:47 AM
Rick Psychology isn't really a science, is it? Sep 24, 2008, 08:26 AM
Lindsay Psychology isn't really a science, is it? Sep 24, 2008, 05:38 PM
Joesus
Psychology isn't really a science, is it?
It... Sep 24, 2008, 05:55 PM
trojan_libido I thought we like to keep things based in science ... Sep 24, 2008, 11:53 PM
Rick Magic? Sep 25, 2008, 07:18 AM
Joesus Spiritual science. Sep 25, 2008, 09:10 AM
Rick With reproducible results? Sep 25, 2008, 02:49 PM
Joesus Most definitely.
But repeatability doesn't a... Sep 25, 2008, 04:19 PM
YoungS If they find out the facts they want to find:
CERN... Sep 27, 2008, 02:06 PM
Joesus
If they find out the facts they want to find:
CER... Sep 28, 2008, 08:56 AM
trojan_libido I don't think we have even the slightest handl... Sep 28, 2008, 11:20 PM
YoungS
As for the question of our relation with God, I... Sep 29, 2008, 02:47 PM
Joesus
One of CERN 'primairy' goal is to ... Sep 30, 2008, 09:28 AM
trojan_libido What people need to learn to do is to take unbelie... Oct 01, 2008, 05:33 AM
Rick If you replace the singularity from before the Big... Oct 01, 2008, 07:21 AM
trojan_libido I hope thats true rick, I'm rubbish at sarcasm... Oct 01, 2008, 11:31 AM
Rick I'm a straight shooter, generally. When I get ... Oct 01, 2008, 12:33 PM
trojan_libido Haha, yes I guess I used the term explusion subcon... Oct 02, 2008, 03:46 AM
Joesus Whatever takes place in the evolution of the speci... Oct 02, 2008, 09:09 AM
trojan_libido The way I see it the serpent is a symbol of the pa... Oct 02, 2008, 10:57 PM
YoungS @Jesoes
I can make this statement because I gre... Oct 05, 2008, 05:54 AM
Joesus
@Joesus
I can make this statement because I gr... Oct 05, 2008, 09:38 AM
YoungS @ Trojan_Libido
No comment, nice explanation of y... Oct 05, 2008, 05:56 AM
trojan_libido The name Jesus is an Anglicization of the Greek, i... Oct 05, 2008, 11:20 PM
Rick Is it co-incidence that Jesus came back to life in... Oct 07, 2008, 06:15 AM
Hey Hey It's autumn again. And more old chestnuts to j... Oct 06, 2008, 07:29 PM
Joesus If we overcome something to evolve beyond it, what... Oct 07, 2008, 08:55 AM
Rick Sounds like a paradox, doesn't it? The problem... Oct 07, 2008, 10:58 AM
trojan_libido Chasing ghosts through the tunnels of evolution... Oct 07, 2008, 11:44 AM
YoungS @ Joesus
True, u can tell a child a fairy tail t... Oct 09, 2008, 03:44 PM
Joesus
Weren't we discussing what is true rather th... Oct 09, 2008, 06:46 PM
trojan_libido Weak minded individuals who have been broken down ... Oct 09, 2008, 11:48 PM
trojan_libido I believe its a fine line for sure. But being awa... Oct 10, 2008, 12:46 AM
YoungS @ Joesus
I might have gotten of track there, I a... Oct 10, 2008, 03:28 PM
Joesus
It does not bother me what others think of me, ... Oct 10, 2008, 06:05 PM
YoungS
U might wanna avoid the mushrooms, every year 5 t... Oct 10, 2008, 03:54 PM
trojan_libido You are completely wrong here. Only tobacco is co... Oct 11, 2008, 03:26 AM
YoungS
First off all, I live in The Netherlands.
This ... Oct 11, 2008, 06:06 AM
trojan_libido
Unfortunately theres no age limit on mushroom sa... Oct 12, 2008, 02:20 AM
YoungS
No, the major of Amsterdam came with that idea, h... Oct 12, 2008, 03:12 AM
trojan_libido I guess you were playing devils advocate then. Do... Oct 14, 2008, 04:01 AM
Rick ... 'Is the human mind a creation of the power... Oct 14, 2008, 06:57 AM
trojan_libido I used the term 'God process' as a referen... Oct 14, 2008, 07:06 AM
Rick I don't like the term "God" because ... Oct 14, 2008, 07:56 AM
Joesus Not liking something is not a reason to keep other... Oct 14, 2008, 09:33 AM
Rick Obviously "God" the word added enough in... Oct 14, 2008, 12:54 PM
trojan_libido People believe God created everything. I believe ... Oct 14, 2008, 11:36 AM![]() ![]() |
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