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post May 28, 2008, 02:11 PM
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This is a forum about the human brain so I think i'm at the right place to suggest to start a topic about this.

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post May 31, 2008, 04:06 PM
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No offence, but I don't know what the hell you talking about.......................

That is your interpertation, there are so much religious people still live by the books (bible, qur'an), or what a priest or imam says.

It would stand to reason if you don't know what I'm talking about, that you could only answer with the idea that it was an interpretation.
Ask yourself, how do you come up with an interpretation of what I said when you don't know what I said?
I think you are projecting from the experience of not knowing, but thinking about God as you make statements to whether God exists or not.

By the way I agree there are many who live by what they interpret from the Bible or the Qur’an and by following what others interpret. This is the sad state of most religions these days.
Those who were the inspiration for these scriptures lived by what they taught and experienced what most only dream of in communion with God.

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There are very wise words in holy books, that's true but don't tell me the desciples really saw Jesus walk on water, Turn water into wine, There was something with bread also forgot how that story was or with one touch cure a little ill kid or how Moses opened the sea in half to walk through. Do you believe those things? We live in a world where it more sounds like a fairytail.

I don't find it necessary to tell you he walked on water, or turned water into wine, or fed thousands with a few loaves of bread and a few fish. You've already made up your mind that the world we live in is the tantamount reason for its impossibility. Just like those who believe things that are written in the bible you believe what you have read and have been told that are relative to the impossibility of miracles.

Do I believe these things? Absolutely. I've seen and experienced a few things in my life that go beyond the normal comprehension of belief and relative laws of science as it is, in its infancy.

By the way who or what is that actually tells you there is wisdom in the bible and the Qur'an? Is it someone else's idea or did you come up with that yourself?

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I don't really quite understand what you trying to tell me (senteces you use).
Was god not directly speaking trough Jesus, Muhammed, Moses? Commanding/Ordering them to say/do things what lead to Jesus his own death, Muhammed to a war, Moses jeapordyzing many lives to send them into the desert? Hearing voices in/outside the head ordering/commanding things is a typical symptom of schizophrenia.
Back then they were saviours, and not seen as a disturbance to the majority. Now we live in a time where knowledge is power and no one will ever believe that god speaks trough someone. On one hand religious people believe (without real proof) what was 2000 years ago on the other hand the time we live in right now, they are called crazy (because there is no proof), an disturbance to the majority, isn't this hypocracy?

Relative values that are supposed to be knowledge don't always encapsulate the vastness of the universe.
For every question that is answered by science there are probably at least 10 more questions that come up that are relative to the study of reality.

Jesus, Muahammed and Moses spoke from the experience of union with God regarding the nature of reality. The word of God refers to the absolute potential that exists in all manifestations. It is not in itself a single word tho the Aum or Amen is referred to as the vibration of the universe or the "Word" of God.
Jesus by example in the crucifixion demonstrated that the spirit was stronger than the physical body and everlasting.
Moses led slaves out of Egypt in a representation of freedom of mind body and soul through enlightenment. The Ten commandments were symbolic of the natural laws of cause and effect in how the senses can be turned inward or outward, each having their corresponding affects.
Turning the mind inward releases the mind from its fascination and habitual addictions to beliefs and stresses ingrained in the neural pathways of the mind due to dualistic experiences and limited awareness of reality. Turning the senses outward create habits akin to the relative nature of sensory addictions to pleasure and the aversion to pain along with various bits of information passed on through the majority and its foundation of belief, be they scientific or spiritual.
Being that everyone is different and with different addictions, the outward sense addictions manifest themselves in attachment to symbols that represent psychological freedom from suffering.
Sex, drugs which include alcohol and tobacco, relationships, and other devices of mental and physical distraction like television and the internet are the tantalizing temptresses of instant gratification.

The Ten commandments are actually based on scientific principals.
Those that tend to lean a little more to the right would disagree in that any regard to spiritual intelligence is subject to relative values.
Even Muhammed spoke of the nature of spirituality or of the same things that Jesus and Moses did however they were all at different stages of their evolution and conscious enlightenment regardless of their ability to surrender to the voice and will of spirit in each experience and demonstration of spiritual living.

Each had their own experience because each human experience is unique.
Due to the diversity of human nature and its tendency to become attached to the relative some personalities appeal more to the nature of the surroundings in bringing in the teaching of spirituality.
The teacher always fit the classroom and the comprehensive ability of students.

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It's late over here and i'm tired, I'll try to read and respond to your post tomorrow, maybe i'll understand more about it.

Understanding comes with time and experience. Try not to make a rules out of non-understanding. Many do you know. They say, "This is what I understand and so this is the way it must be," while they say to themselves and others, "I don't understand this or that."
It would stand to reason unless you believe there is nothing more for you to learn and understand that you might keep an open mind to possibility rather than to close it because you have a difficult time comprehending what is in your reality.
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YoungS   God/Religion a creation of the powerfull human mind ?/!   May 28, 2008, 02:11 PM
Joesus   Good topic heading. Can't wait to see if you a...   May 28, 2008, 04:31 PM
Lindsay   This is a forum about the human brain so I think ...   May 29, 2008, 08:10 PM
trojan_libido   We are the Universe experiencing itself. That is ...   May 29, 2008, 11:24 PM
Lindsay   [b]We are the Universe experiencing itself. That...   May 30, 2008, 05:18 AM
Joesus   John 17 a translation from the Aramaic texts (the ...   May 30, 2008, 09:38 AM
YoungS   I started this topic because more than the half of...   May 31, 2008, 03:43 AM
Joesus   Survey says more than 90% which is substantially ...   May 31, 2008, 11:31 AM
Lindsay   YoungS, the feedback you just received from Joesu...   May 31, 2008, 01:55 PM
Joesus   God, beyond being encapsulated in experience doe...   May 31, 2008, 02:21 PM
YoungS   Joesus, No offence, but I don't know what the...   May 31, 2008, 03:18 PM
YoungS   Hey Lindsay, unitheist/panentheist I think thi...   May 31, 2008, 03:30 PM
Lindsay   Hey Lindsay, I think this is new for me, i...   May 31, 2008, 08:15 PM
Joesus   It would stand to reason if you don't know w...   May 31, 2008, 04:06 PM
Lindsay   YoungS: =======ooo000ooo====== I think of GØD a...   May 31, 2008, 08:33 PM
YoungS   hey guys i'll respond tuesday when I got my ne...   Jun 01, 2008, 04:11 AM
trojan_libido   Hearing someone elses voice in your own head is sc...   Jun 01, 2008, 11:35 PM
YoungS   The most of your post I don't know what you ...   Jun 03, 2008, 07:56 AM
YoungS   I agree Agree again, I could not come to a di...   Jun 03, 2008, 08:11 AM
YoungS   Sound more like a spiritual (connection to god) ...   Jun 03, 2008, 08:31 AM
Lindsay   Sounds, to me, more like a spiritual (connectio...   Jun 03, 2008, 09:43 AM
Joesus   That depends on whether you could comprehend the ...   Jun 03, 2008, 10:19 AM
YoungS   Hey Lindsay, thanks for correcting me. I am 24 ye...   Jun 03, 2008, 12:46 PM
lindsayking   Hey Lindsay, thanks for correcting me. I am 24 ...   Jun 03, 2008, 04:30 PM
YoungS   Joesus, I comparing it to the average religious...   Jun 03, 2008, 02:17 PM
Joesus   No, no need to be uptight but being truthful is ...   Jun 03, 2008, 08:13 PM
YoungS   You know Joesus I really wanted to comment to what...   Jun 05, 2008, 11:49 AM
Lindsay   YoungS, here is how I understand what you wrote: ...   Jun 05, 2008, 01:20 PM
YoungS   Lindsay, Yes it is almost fairly. You know, Jo...   Jun 05, 2008, 01:39 PM
Lindsay   Lindsay, Yes it is almost fairly. ... But my ques...   Jun 05, 2008, 02:08 PM
YoungS   From this point I do want to continue... The ...   Jun 05, 2008, 02:07 PM
Joesus   Well it looks like you did comment even tho you ...   Jun 05, 2008, 08:06 PM
YoungS   (1)yea I think that religious people are having...   Jun 06, 2008, 04:00 AM
YoungS   @ Lindsay, I prefer a debate. (1)true, that...   Jun 06, 2008, 05:27 AM
Joesus   1) If over 90% of the human race believes in a G...   Jun 06, 2008, 08:20 AM
Lindsay   YoungS, here is how I read you: I heard you say: ...   Jun 07, 2008, 09:08 AM
rhymer   Hello YoungS, First of all, I welcome you to Brai...   Jun 07, 2008, 02:49 PM
Lindsay   Hello YoungS, First of all, I welcome you to Bra...   Jun 08, 2008, 12:32 PM
Joesus   Who in hell would believe that!?......   Jun 07, 2008, 09:15 PM
rhymer   I don't believe there is a place called Hell s...   Jun 08, 2008, 09:05 AM
Joesus   Using that point of reference the quote: is misrep...   Jun 08, 2008, 11:34 AM
rhymer   Lindsay, In answer to your post..... I don't ...   Jun 09, 2008, 11:39 AM
Lindsay   Lindsay, In answer to your post ... I don't t...   Jun 10, 2008, 03:50 AM
Joesus   Finding any common truth, is impossible when no on...   Jun 09, 2008, 02:19 PM
rhymer   It is possible that a person who detects a Truth i...   Jun 09, 2008, 03:43 PM
Joesus   It is possible that a person who detects a Truth ...   Jun 09, 2008, 04:48 PM
Joesus   The ego is not an evil thing, however it is the o...   Jun 10, 2008, 08:36 AM
rhymer   To answer your questions Lindsay:- "I have ...   Jun 10, 2008, 12:15 PM
Joesus   Continuing from the last post in regards to Micah ...   Jun 10, 2008, 05:38 PM
Lindsay   Rhymer you write: "No God is required for tho...   Jun 10, 2008, 06:52 PM
YoungS   Joesus, If CERN research leads to more informatio...   Sep 24, 2008, 06:19 AM
Joesus   Joesus, If CERN research leads to more informati...   Sep 24, 2008, 10:31 AM
trojan_libido   @YoungS: I doubt Joesus thinks the Earth was creat...   Sep 24, 2008, 07:47 AM
Rick   Psychology isn't really a science, is it?   Sep 24, 2008, 08:26 AM
Lindsay   Psychology isn't really a science, is it?   Sep 24, 2008, 05:38 PM
Joesus   Psychology isn't really a science, is it? It...   Sep 24, 2008, 05:55 PM
trojan_libido   I thought we like to keep things based in science ...   Sep 24, 2008, 11:53 PM
Rick   Magic?   Sep 25, 2008, 07:18 AM
Joesus   Spiritual science.   Sep 25, 2008, 09:10 AM
Rick   With reproducible results?   Sep 25, 2008, 02:49 PM
Joesus   Most definitely. But repeatability doesn't a...   Sep 25, 2008, 04:19 PM
YoungS   If they find out the facts they want to find: CERN...   Sep 27, 2008, 02:06 PM
Joesus   If they find out the facts they want to find: CER...   Sep 28, 2008, 08:56 AM
trojan_libido   I don't think we have even the slightest handl...   Sep 28, 2008, 11:20 PM
YoungS   As for the question of our relation with God, I...   Sep 29, 2008, 02:47 PM
Joesus   One of CERN 'primairy' goal is to ...   Sep 30, 2008, 09:28 AM
trojan_libido   What people need to learn to do is to take unbelie...   Oct 01, 2008, 05:33 AM
Rick   If you replace the singularity from before the Big...   Oct 01, 2008, 07:21 AM
trojan_libido   I hope thats true rick, I'm rubbish at sarcasm...   Oct 01, 2008, 11:31 AM
Rick   I'm a straight shooter, generally. When I get ...   Oct 01, 2008, 12:33 PM
trojan_libido   Haha, yes I guess I used the term explusion subcon...   Oct 02, 2008, 03:46 AM
Joesus   Whatever takes place in the evolution of the speci...   Oct 02, 2008, 09:09 AM
trojan_libido   The way I see it the serpent is a symbol of the pa...   Oct 02, 2008, 10:57 PM
YoungS   @Jesoes I can make this statement because I gre...   Oct 05, 2008, 05:54 AM
Joesus   @Joesus I can make this statement because I gr...   Oct 05, 2008, 09:38 AM
YoungS   @ Trojan_Libido No comment, nice explanation of y...   Oct 05, 2008, 05:56 AM
trojan_libido   The name Jesus is an Anglicization of the Greek, i...   Oct 05, 2008, 11:20 PM
Rick   Is it co-incidence that Jesus came back to life in...   Oct 07, 2008, 06:15 AM
Hey Hey   It's autumn again. And more old chestnuts to j...   Oct 06, 2008, 07:29 PM
Joesus   If we overcome something to evolve beyond it, what...   Oct 07, 2008, 08:55 AM
Rick   Sounds like a paradox, doesn't it? The problem...   Oct 07, 2008, 10:58 AM
trojan_libido   Chasing ghosts through the tunnels of evolution...   Oct 07, 2008, 11:44 AM
YoungS   @ Joesus True, u can tell a child a fairy tail t...   Oct 09, 2008, 03:44 PM
Joesus   Weren't we discussing what is true rather th...   Oct 09, 2008, 06:46 PM
trojan_libido   Weak minded individuals who have been broken down ...   Oct 09, 2008, 11:48 PM
trojan_libido   I believe its a fine line for sure. But being awa...   Oct 10, 2008, 12:46 AM
YoungS   @ Joesus I might have gotten of track there, I a...   Oct 10, 2008, 03:28 PM
Joesus   It does not bother me what others think of me, ...   Oct 10, 2008, 06:05 PM
YoungS   U might wanna avoid the mushrooms, every year 5 t...   Oct 10, 2008, 03:54 PM
trojan_libido   You are completely wrong here. Only tobacco is co...   Oct 11, 2008, 03:26 AM
YoungS   First off all, I live in The Netherlands. This ...   Oct 11, 2008, 06:06 AM
trojan_libido   Unfortunately theres no age limit on mushroom sa...   Oct 12, 2008, 02:20 AM
YoungS   No, the major of Amsterdam came with that idea, h...   Oct 12, 2008, 03:12 AM
trojan_libido   I guess you were playing devils advocate then. Do...   Oct 14, 2008, 04:01 AM
Rick   ... 'Is the human mind a creation of the power...   Oct 14, 2008, 06:57 AM
trojan_libido   I used the term 'God process' as a referen...   Oct 14, 2008, 07:06 AM
Rick   I don't like the term "God" because ...   Oct 14, 2008, 07:56 AM
Joesus   Not liking something is not a reason to keep other...   Oct 14, 2008, 09:33 AM
Rick   Obviously "God" the word added enough in...   Oct 14, 2008, 12:54 PM
trojan_libido   People believe God created everything. I believe ...   Oct 14, 2008, 11:36 AM
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