The reason for God being unimaginable Options

[dattaswami]

The reason for God being unimaginable

Atibodhaakaashaatitamanuhyam tatkaaranam.

(God is unimaginable because God, the generator of space, is beyond the space. The intelligence can never go beyond the space).

Veda says that God is the cause of space (Atmaana Aakaashah….). Cause can be seen in its original form, only when its effect is destroyed. The lump of mud can be visualized only when the pot is destroyed. Hence, to understand the original God, the space must be destroyed. When the space is destroyed and does not exist, the situation is unimaginable, in spite of your intensive imagination even for hundred years. Since, your intelligence cannot cross the space, God, who is beyond space can never be imagined by human intelligence. This is the reason for God being unimaginable.

There is no worldly item that can be perfectly compared to God

Nopameyadoshopamaanam tadupaadhivaachyam.

(There is no worldly item that can be perfectly compared to God. Hence, any simile has defect in the case of God. God can be said to be the item if God enters that due to identification).

All the worldly items have dimensions of the space and hence are not beyond space. If the items are beyond space, they will be also unimaginable. But all the items of the world are imaginable only. No imaginable item can be a simile to the unimaginable God. Hence, a complete simile for God is absent in this world. A simile among the worldly items also is never perfect in all aspects. The face is compared to the moon. Moon increases and decreases in the month but the face has no such increase and decrease. An imaginable item cannot be a perfect simile to another imaginable item in the world. Then, how can you bring a perfect simile from the imaginable items to the unimaginable God? Of course, God enters into an imaginable item as medium. In that case the medium itself is said to be God as the live wire is said to be the current itself. Here also the medium is treated as God but actually the medium is not God directly.

[Cassox]

So I can't see the first domino to fall, until I've destroyed each domino that fell from its influence? So we can't really conceive of god, unless we destroy the universe itself?

Why? Why even separate God from time and existence? Why not simply say that we conceive of 3 spacial dimensions, and the forth spatial dimension, which we can only observe sequentially, is time. All dimensions together are god, and movement is an illusion. Why not?

[dattaswami]

So I can't see the first domino to fall, until I've destroyed each domino that fell from its influence? So we can't really conceive of god, unless we destroy the universe itself?

Why? Why even separate God from time and existence? Why not simply say that we conceive of 3 spacial dimensions, and the forth spatial dimension, which we can only observe sequentially, is time. All dimensions together are god, and movement is an illusion. Why not?

Movement is not illusion for us. It is an illusion for God. We are in relative plane and God is in absolute plane. For God this entire universe is just an imagination or dream.

In atoms lot of space exists as per science. In fact, the solid matter consisting of packed atoms is only full of vacuum and hence the experience of solid state of matter should be the experience of the vacuum only. But the experience of solid state is quite different. When you put the finger, actually the finger should penetrate in to the solid state due to lot of vacuum existing in the closely packed atoms. But the finger does not penetrate into the solid state, which is quite opposite experience. The reason for the non penetration of finger is not due to absence of vacuum in the atoms. The highly revolving subatomic particles in the atoms create resistance-force, which does not allow the finger to penetrate in to the vacuum. Due to this an illusion is created to the observer, so that the observer thinks that there is no vacuum at all in the solid state. Hence, the solid state of matter is the effect of the work of resistance only. Now, this concludes that even the matter is a form of work like the awareness. In such case the matter should not be an entity or working element like the awareness. All this is the argument of opposition to establish awareness also as an entity like matter or to establish matter also as work or non entity like awareness.

The answer for this opposing argument is given like this: Even though the solid matter is the form of work of force or inert energy like the awareness, the result of the illusion created by such work is ending in experiencing the matter as an entity. Such experience of entity is not the result in the case of awareness even though awareness is also a form of work like solid matter. Hence, due to the difference between the experience of awareness and solid matter in the end, you cannot treat awareness as an entity like solid matter. Hence, the opposition is negated.