The essence of all the religions is one and the same
The essence of all the religions is one and the same
May 05, 2008, 07:01 AM
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The essence of all the religions is one and the same
The essence of all the religions is one and the same since the Universal God gives it. The religions are different from each other because the religious leaders who are the human beings create the material that surrounds the essence. The skeleton is one and the same and there is no difference in the skeletons of the human beings. The difference lies only in the external materials covering the skeletons, which are flesh, skin etc., in these external materials differences arose due to deficiencies. Suppose there are two students. One is weak in physics and the other is weak in chemistry.
Each student mocks the other for the deficiency. Therefore, the deficiency is the root of difference and quarrels in the religions. The reason for the deficiency is the human brain that developed the external body of the spiritual knowledge. Therefore, the spiritual knowledge is the skeleton and the religion is its body. The deficiency in a religion can be removed by taking the merits of the other religions. Every religion has deficiency and the rectification of that deficiency should be from other religion without any ego and jealousy. Do not think that you are without defects. Do not think that your parents have no defects. Do not think that your teachers and preachers do not have defects. Therefore, observe others and take the merits from anybody without prejudice.
May 11, 2008, 12:32 AM
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Ok, so basically what your saying is that any religious structure is irrelevant.
It can be extremely relevant to someone, and it may lead them to greater questions and growth beyond any restrictions of dogmatic idealization.
What I'm saying is God is not a proprietary concept encapsulated by any one design.
They all say absolutely different things.
If several different people describe one event in different words they are saying it differently but describing the same thing.
If they pass their experience on in some story and that is passed on again and again it may not be the same story but the origin of the story is still pure to the original experience.
They are all at this point so far from any truth that absolutely nothing worthwhile can be gleaned, right?
Any story followed after being passed on generation after generation is subject to scrutiny and should be given some thought. If one is genuinely interested in something they tend to seek answers for themselves.
Those that seek find. Those that generalize from the sidelines know nothing but often have many opinions about a subject.
Those who are genuinely interested find the information that leads them to a path of self discovery, which is what the essence of religion is all about. Religions, or what they originate from is the example of discovery and the experiences that follow discovery.
Those that are too lazy to follow the example take any story that suits them and apply it to their beliefs and then try to line everyone else up to those beliefs.
Any True teaching always points one back to their own hearts. Once you get past all the distortions of the original teachings of any religion you can find the essence of that. If you pass judgment from the outside, knowing nothing of the origins of religion, you are just talking about nothing.
Experience what is underlying any true Teaching and you know something.
While I can appreciate the story, your eliminating any form of absolutism.
Absolutes don't exist in any form, that is what religious teachings,(True religious teachings) point toward. Every relative form can be traced back to its absolute underlying reality, the one that supports all aspects of human being and its relationship to the divine creator.
So their isn't one god, or many gods, instead theres some other option that we are to stupid to understand. God doesn't want you to kill, but sometimes he does. Were just to blind to know when? This doesn't really do anything to further anyone. It gives absolutely no guidance towards what behaviors are appropriate, what the consequences of any actions are. It gives absolutely no indication as to the nature of anything. So overall, nothing has been said.Stupidity in this case is the choice to ignore the reality of Truth. Cause and effect is given to some absolute God by the ignorant, when it is in fact in the hands of the individual.
Karma is in effect the thought fulfilled in universal dimension. Everything that is experience is initiated by choice. The separation that exists in man from this reality has led man to think some mystic entity is responsible for the magnitude of creation that is out of its control.
When Jesus said "I and my Father are one" he was expressing his conscious connection to the forces of nature and nature itself. In union God and man are one. With the mind immersed in the infinite absolute all relative universal creations are exuding from consciousness that dreams and maintains reality as we experience it. We just can't wrap our minds around it so we try to reduce the infinite into role playing.
God, God's creation, and God's defective creation as mankind seeking absolution and salvation from its omniscient, omnipresent, perfect Father who couldn't seem to get it right when he created man and the earth. Twisted ideas based on the limitations of the ego and its delusions of the infinite universe.
In Truth, when one becomes aware of the reality of God and immerses themselves in the fabric of space and time through the absolute, they become aligned with the direction of the manifest. Once you become the driver, the car and the road, it no longer has any single projected end or scenery and is wide open to the desire and intention of the creator.
6 Billion generators projecting a foundation of thought based on limited self worth and fear creates a rather substantial bubble of time and space with various implications toward self destruction.
Humanity is slowly coming around but it has taken some thousands of years to get this far and it will be soon that we make or break this bubble into something greater or we vaporize it and start over again.
Human free will is the essence of humanity and it takes its place in the projection of the image of itself on the screen of time and space.
We are only one page of many books that are the stories of God.
Morals, Tapas or useful boundaries are guidelines to structure conscious awareness away from the delusions of separation and ego. The Ten commandments are hints to the discipline necessary in turning the senses back toward the absolute rather than outward through the senses to see who we really are. We are simply addicted to what we see in our current projections of ourselves in the entertaining world of sensation and instant gratification.
This is like walking into a U.N. summit and saying, "gee I'm sure your all right." Do you really think this will solve the political issues of the day? In the end, any connection is arbitrary and irrelevant if one can't draw any conclusions.
If one has neither the ears to hear or the eyes to see they are blind. Any brief contact made with a small surface of the elephant and the foolish attempt to try and summarize the totality of the elephant and its nature from a blind mans point of view always leads to more ignorance.
You haven't really grasped the big picture, but you will if you really want to know of it and aren't going to just complain about what you don't understand.
Integration of religion? Experientially I understand what your saying, but this reads as ridiculously as "the secret" or "what the bleep."
There is some good stuff in the secret and what the bleep. But like I said if you don't know anything about consciousness it would appear as some new agey idealism.
Integrating religion is far from what I'm saying, integrating several clubs that do not in themselves have an understanding and living experience of God would just paste illusions together to try to come up with a democratic resolution but still have nothing permanent.
People have to be conscious of God, with a permanent connection to the evolving experience of God to be able to speak of God, otherwise they project only their best guess, as it changes with their beliefs and the weather.
It's nice to pretend that Jesus Christ and Buddha sat around thinking happy thoughts, and that string theory means all our wishes come true, but whats been said here is absolutely unsupported, and in fact unsupportable at all.
The trouble with proof is that those who can't think very big want their proof to fall into small categories of thinking. We build instruments of idea based on what we can imagine. What we haven't imagined we will invent when we get smart enough to think about them and understand them.
The same is true of God. We as humans locked in the limited confines of the ego think three dimensionally and then insist God accommodate us by confining itself to a three dimensional reality and one that is to our insistent designs. God waits patiently in its perfection until our imagination gets a bit more expanded to accommodate a tiny glimpse of its Truth.
It's kind of like the wheel that existed always, waiting for humans to grasp its reality before humanity pulled it forward into function and use from its infinite storage in the absolute realm of potential.
We only see what we want to see, and then demand God to show us more when we haven't opened up to our capacity to see more.
Man once thought man could never fly but then we built airplanes. The airplane couldn't be built until man stopped thinking man could never fly and knew that he could somehow and some way. Only then could the reality trickle through the layers of conditioning that is small thinking and delusion of ego. It is still evolving today and we are flying higher and faster letting go of more limitations every day.
Those that have had the experience and have become enlightened lead others who are ready, but like any unripe fruit on a tree, if you try and pull it off of its tree it loses its attachment to its nourishment which it has created to bring it to ripeness. Once it no longer needs the tree it becomes something different.
People through their own designs have attached themselves to trees they have long ago planted through many lifetimes of thoughts and ideas until they reach a certain maturity to become something else.
Humanity as a whole and as individuals are getting there, slowly but surely. Over 90% of humanity believes and thinks about some sort of God or force in the universe and they are awakening to their connection to the force that connects us all and gives us power to be who and what we are. We are only now as a whole beginning to understand what that is.
Unfortunately our ignorance has created some bizarre interpretations from throwing people to the lions, all out war for religious control and pockets of isolated cults with a sincere desire to extricate themselves from the confines of control by the forces of greed and totalitarianism, but we are like children in a playground imagining some bizarre concepts of what it is like to be grown up.
The sages of the present and past have always been around to help guide humanity toward their inevitable Truth of origin and nature. Proof lies in something much greater than can be contained in any relative measure. We have little compassion yet for our own ignorance but we are not hopeless.
Always the Truth exists for those who can grasp it, and it always exists for anyone. Not everyone is willing or capable of letting their small ideas of reality loose to glimpse it.
Those that try to get a grip by using drugs of any kind know their altered state of mind is stretching beyond their limited belief and because they don't know how to let go try to force their mind to let go by detaching it from the normal neural pathways created through the integration of thoughts and ideas passed on from generation to generation in common delusion. They then try to imagine the glimpses they get through the foggy experiences are what enlightenment and God are all about when they return to what they call normal.
Some day they will allow their mind to wander naturally into who they are and find that they never had to force the mind in any way to experience who they are.
The natural ability for anyone to take their mind into the depths of consciousness is much easier than most think.
It actually takes more effort to maintain the delusions of belief and creates more stress in the body than it does to let go and let God, to immerse the mind into the absolute.
The science of Union to those who can't understand seem like illusions of religious imagination and fantasy, when the fact is, death and the short lived imaginings of 80 some odd years are the illusions of the ego and are not the permanent reality of consciousness or anything relevant to the underlying essence of any true religion.
Tho it is a long post I have added some information that may be relative to your questions on this subject in another topic posted on May 11th
heres the link http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19066&hl=
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