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post Nov 13, 2007, 04:02 PM
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I am very interested on the topic but know very little in comparison to the people I've seen posting. I was hoping for some help on the topic, including some good sources as well as some of your opinions and/or input.

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post Nov 14, 2007, 11:18 AM
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In reference to proposed time travel, the actual concept of traveling through time is fairly simple. I think of time as the way of measuring changes in the universe to other changes, so in order to go backwards through time its quite simple.

One would simply need to cause all of the matter in the universe to revert to the state it was in at the proposed time period. Of course actually doing such a thing is a whole different matter. But in essence, since nothing is created or destroyed, you only need to revert matter to a previous state.

Of course the implications for such a thing as well as the mind boggling mathematical equations required just to calculate such a feat are enormous. Not to mention the hundreds of things which could go wrong.
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QUOTE(maximus242 @ Nov 14, 2007, 11:18 AM) *

In reference to proposed time travel, the actual concept of traveling through time is fairly simple. I think of time as the way of measuring changes in the universe to other changes, so in order to go backwards through time its quite simple.

One would simply need to cause all of the matter in the universe to revert to the state it was in at the proposed time period. Of course actually doing such a thing is a whole different matter. But in essence, since nothing is created or destroyed, you only need to revert matter to a previous state.

Of course the implications for such a thing as well as the mind boggling mathematical equations required just to calculate such a feat are enormous. Not to mention the hundreds of things which could go wrong.

Hey, that's a pretty good observation there Max. But, being that time is the movement of matter throughout space, then we'd have two major "dimensions" that we'd have to manipulate. And then, if energy and matter are exchangable as proposed, there you have a whole other problem! Forget it! I like the "time is not real' statement better already. But, if time is not real, what is real, then? Personally, I view time a little bit the way T_L does: some kind of bipolar abstraction. objective and subjective. Relative and otherwise. Hate it and love it. Too much and not enough of. A year seemed like a decade when I was a kid. My granmother tells me that Christmans comes around every 3 months or so to her, nowadays. Now, as I reason about my purpose in life, and how I am going to go about it, I realize how much I hate time; as it drags on forever, or so it seems, before I can get on with the things I've set out to accomplish before I run out of... you know!
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QUOTE(code buttons @ Nov 14, 2007, 09:32 PM) *

QUOTE(maximus242 @ Nov 14, 2007, 11:18 AM) *

In reference to proposed time travel, the actual concept of traveling through time is fairly simple. I think of time as the way of measuring changes in the universe to other changes, so in order to go backwards through time its quite simple.

One would simply need to cause all of the matter in the universe to revert to the state it was in at the proposed time period. Of course actually doing such a thing is a whole different matter. But in essence, since nothing is created or destroyed, you only need to revert matter to a previous state.

Of course the implications for such a thing as well as the mind boggling mathematical equations required just to calculate such a feat are enormous. Not to mention the hundreds of things which could go wrong.

Hey, that's a pretty good observation there Max. But, being that time is the movement of matter throughout space, then we'd have two major "dimensions" that we'd have to manipulate. And then, if energy and matter are exchangable as proposed, there you have a whole other problem! Forget it! I like the "time is not real' statement better already. But, if time is not real, what is real, then? Personally, I view time a little bit the way T_L does: some kind of bipolar abstraction. objective and subjective. Relative and otherwise. Hate it and love it. Too much and not enough of. A year seemed like a decade when I was a kid. My granmother tells me that Christmans comes around every 3 months or so to her, nowadays. Now, as I reason about my purpose in life, and how I am going to go about it, I realize how much I hate time; as it drags on forever, or so it seems, before I can get on with the things I've set out to accomplish before I run out of... you know!


to me time is measurement
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why-think   Writing a Philosophy Essay on "Time is not real" (HELP)   Nov 13, 2007, 04:02 PM
Rick   Time as we experience in life via consciousness is...   Nov 13, 2007, 04:25 PM
maximus242   Oh my, well you asked the right place, I have been...   Nov 13, 2007, 10:15 PM
trojan_libido   Time isn't real: Many terms people are famili...   Nov 14, 2007, 03:37 AM
Rick   Also see the very interesting book A World Without...   Nov 14, 2007, 09:17 AM
maximus242   In reference to proposed time travel, the actual c...   Nov 14, 2007, 11:18 AM
code buttons   In reference to proposed time travel, the actual ...   Nov 14, 2007, 07:32 PM
maximus242   In reference to proposed time travel, the actual...   Jul 03, 2011, 07:47 AM
Lindsay   THINGS TO THINK ABOUT ==================== ABOUT R...   Nov 14, 2007, 11:35 AM
trojan_libido   One would simply need to cause all of the matter i...   Nov 14, 2007, 11:42 AM
maximus242   Yes I realize there are many problems with the con...   Nov 14, 2007, 01:39 PM
Rick   Yes I realize there are many problems with the co...   Nov 14, 2007, 02:49 PM
Lindsay   ...If time travel were technically possible, it w...   Nov 14, 2007, 03:01 PM
why-think   Wow! Thanks so much guys. You have all really ...   Nov 14, 2007, 02:19 PM
why-think   Thanks for all the input rick!! and others...   Nov 14, 2007, 06:14 PM
Clothes   Big thanks   May 14, 2011, 04:15 AM
njwoods   There was an interesting television program that I...   Jun 16, 2011, 09:34 AM
Joesus   An effect of identity with evolution. What comes f...   Jul 03, 2011, 07:51 AM
maximus242   Its possible that time is non linear but human per...   Jul 03, 2011, 08:13 PM
Joesus   Its possible that time is non linear but human pe...   Jul 04, 2011, 06:29 AM
maximus242   interesting point, though i would say its not put ...   Jul 04, 2011, 08:45 AM
Joesus   interesting point, though i would say its not put...   Jul 04, 2011, 01:37 PM
Digital Apotheosis   Time is a human measurement of motion. Motion ten...   Apr 16, 2013, 04:45 AM


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