| trojan_libido |
Nov 06, 2007, 05:00 AM
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I work in a factory producing power steering motors for cars. I see thousands upon thousands of these units being built, everything identical, everything efficient, every business meeting about efficiency, capacity and speed.
I see the same process has occurred throughout the evolution of life. Biology carries information with DNA - we have no real idea on what this information is or how it accumulates. Take a plant as an example - its shape has evolved to suit the environment, to make it more efficient, to store and convert more and more energy, to grow as fast as possible into new suitable areas. Doesn't it seem odd that capitalism has heralded in an age that seems remarkably similar to Natures original goals? (I'm giving Nature a personality and thus deifying it, live with it Another example - termites. These things are deaf and blind, yet they build structures that dwarf the pyramids of Giza by comparison. They form colonies, they work together, they presumably do all this communication through smell or vibrations. More importantly they go to war. Animals have been fighting for territory, the opposite sex, or just when they're grumpy, well before we ever began taking notice. So is the current trend of mass production and global conflict something we can actually remove from our lives? Aren't we a bit limited in our view of what God intended for us? It seems to me that the signs are all around us that life is acting exactly the way life has always acted. If there is a God there is NO evidence whatsoever that it is a God that cares for our pain. It seems that the process called God is simply to expand into order, and carry on the volatile nature that has always been part of life. My question is fairly simple, is mass production a new realisation of natures laws of speed and efficiency? |
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| Joesus |
Nov 10, 2007, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE I simply mean that just because eachviewpoint differs, doesn't invalidate what I'm saying. Each consciousness is simply another receptor. Each viewpoint is relative, non can really support another or invalidate another which leaves the personal viewpoint powerless unless something or someone gives it power and attention. As soon as attention is removed it doesn't exist in the relative anymore. But getting back to Unity: There is only one consciousness. Because you don't trace your own personality back to its source and any other receptor you believe in, Unity exists as a projection of like minded individuals or group consciousness all making their decisions based on agreement, like lemmings following an idea even if it is to the edge of a cliff and over the edge. Similarly the singularity cannot be manufactured because manufacturing something is a relative term given to the idea that something doesn't exist. Relatively speaking Unity doesn't exist to the awareness when it is ignored, like any other idea. But all ideas exist in consciousness and so does the relationship between consciousness and the relative. The relative and consciousness are united always. Recognizing consciousness both in its formlessness and relative expression at the same time is a unity experience. Recognizing the union of the two all the time, in every thought feeling and action a state of conscious awareness. When one experiences this, there is no separation of personalities or receptors, they are living as one, and the personality is surrendered to the greater consciousness. I and my Father are one.. When thine eye be single....that is Union When the awareness is in a thousand places at the same time, this is a greater conscious experience of Union. When this is lived through the formless, all form is malleable or pliable to intention and desire, you as the one consciousness create all form. Life is easily maintained without the thought of age or sickness or the illusion of death, which are born of separation in thought, or the ignoring of the relationship between consciousness and the relative, the belief that Union is somewhere in a different reality and not available, or something different than it really is according to ego and personalities driven by belief. |
trojan_libido Manufacturing the Singularity? Nov 06, 2007, 05:00 AM
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Joesus
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Joesus
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Joesus
Lets take it to this level
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Joesus
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Hudzon
All of them...? Nov 09, 2007, 01:26 AM
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Joesus
Not if you don't know what true union is.
T... Nov 09, 2007, 08:34 AM
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Enki
My question is fairly simple, is mass production ... Nov 10, 2007, 01:02 PM
trojan_libido I just wanted to know others opinions on the matte... Nov 10, 2007, 02:25 PM
Enki Let us hope that it is the same pattern. We do not... Nov 11, 2007, 07:25 AM
trojan_libido http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/tesla2.htm
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trojan_libido Dont you see the similaries to the world wide web ... Nov 17, 2007, 01:18 AM
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