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Mostly everyone operates/navigates in this world as if their mental representation of it were synonymous with the objective world. Few stop to think about the fact that their 'objective world' is merely their mental representation and wonder over the nature of mental representation in general.

Pick an object in your environment, like a book or sculpture and examine it closely. What is that? I don't mean the object considered as thing-in-itself. I mean the object considered as your mental representation. What is that mental representation? And why do I perceive it as such an not otherwise?

Let's forget about ontologies and metaphysics for the moment; we don't care about the thing-in-itself if such a thing exists, at least for the purposes of answering the above questions. The concern here is the nature of the mental representation itself.

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lucid_dream   On the Mental Representation of the Objective World   Oct 28, 2007, 02:18 PM
Joesus   Mostly everyone operates/navigates in this world ...   Oct 28, 2007, 08:05 PM
lucid_dream   Mental representation is of that which is felt and...   Oct 28, 2007, 08:21 PM
Joesus   No it doesn't but if you narrow thoughts so ...   Oct 28, 2007, 10:45 PM
lucid_dream   No it doesn't but if you narrow thoughts so...   Oct 28, 2007, 11:09 PM
Wafa..   Did anyone knows about the claim that consciousnes...   Oct 29, 2007, 01:11 AM
Rick   Pick an object in your environment, like a book or...   Oct 29, 2007, 10:58 AM
maximus242   mm this is dependent on a number of factors. Neuro...   Oct 29, 2007, 11:01 AM
Joesus   Then you won't leave out what what you would ...   Oct 30, 2007, 09:17 AM
forgottenpresence   The ego in itself cannot contain consciousness ...   Oct 30, 2007, 10:29 AM
Joesus   The ego in itself cannot contain consciousness ...   Oct 30, 2007, 07:08 PM
forgottenpresence   [quote name='forgottenpresence' post='84784' date...   Oct 30, 2007, 10:11 PM
kortikal   Joesus, do you call the manifest the objects of du...   Oct 30, 2007, 07:12 PM
Joesus   The manifest is more than the objects of dual con...   Oct 30, 2007, 08:00 PM
kortikal   The absolute appears still in contrast to the mov...   Oct 30, 2007, 08:25 PM
Flex   The absolute appears still in contrast to the mo...   Oct 30, 2007, 09:04 PM
kortikal   I'm talking about activity, not motion, and th...   Oct 30, 2007, 09:29 PM
Flex   we're talking about activity, not motion, and...   Oct 30, 2007, 09:35 PM
kortikal   we're talking about activity, not motion, an...   Oct 30, 2007, 09:37 PM
Flex   How can change exist independent of time?   Oct 30, 2007, 09:39 PM
kortikal   How can change exist independent of time? who eve...   Oct 30, 2007, 09:43 PM
Flex   How can change exist independent of time? who ev...   Oct 30, 2007, 09:44 PM
kortikal   [quote name='kortikal' post='84842' date='Oct 30,...   Oct 30, 2007, 09:46 PM
Flex   [quote name='kortikal' post='84842' date='Oct 30...   Oct 30, 2007, 09:57 PM
kortikal   In order for there to be causality, there must be ...   Oct 30, 2007, 10:06 PM
Flex   In order for there to be causality, there must be...   Oct 30, 2007, 10:25 PM
Joesus   Probably an illusion? Some say everything is an ...   Oct 30, 2007, 09:48 PM
kortikal   Do you believe mind can be objective, without atta...   Oct 30, 2007, 10:01 PM
Joesus   [quote name='Joesus' post='84847' date='Oct 30, 2...   Oct 30, 2007, 10:50 PM
forgottenpresence   When perceiving reality through Unity consciousne...   Oct 30, 2007, 11:46 PM
Joesus   If you accept this: God consciousness is all-know...   Oct 31, 2007, 09:05 AM
forgottenpresence   This is duality, because I am thinking it and proj...   Oct 31, 2007, 11:54 AM
Rick   Regarding causality: 1. I hold a rubber band in m...   Oct 31, 2007, 02:29 PM
lucid_dream   Regarding causality: 1. I hold a rubber band in ...   Oct 31, 2007, 04:35 PM
forgottenpresence   Mind projects things but duality is a state of min...   Oct 31, 2007, 06:13 PM
lucid_dream   When in a dual state of mind, all the mind does i...   Oct 31, 2007, 08:10 PM
forgottenpresence   you define unity consciousness in terms of negati...   Oct 31, 2007, 09:09 PM
Wafa..   I dunno if this might be considered out of this di...   Oct 31, 2007, 02:32 PM
Joesus   When the mind is still there is the experience of ...   Oct 31, 2007, 09:15 PM
forgottenpresence   Why must there be a reflection? Can one see wit...   Nov 01, 2007, 11:00 AM
Joesus   No it wouldn't sound like unity, if unity is...   Nov 01, 2007, 06:48 PM
forgottenpresence   Guess I just don't know what I'm talking a...   Nov 03, 2007, 01:01 AM
Joesus   Guess I just don't know what I'm talking ...   Nov 03, 2007, 08:01 AM
forgottenpresence   Would that mean you are now reconsidering your gr...   Nov 05, 2007, 02:50 AM
Joesus   Would that mean you are now reconsidering your g...   Nov 05, 2007, 08:21 AM
forgottenpresence   [quote name='forgottenpresence' post='84977' date...   Nov 05, 2007, 06:16 PM
Joesus   [quote name='forgottenpresence' post='84977' dat...   Nov 05, 2007, 07:37 PM
forgottenpresence   Well it obviously is a different state of consciou...   Nov 05, 2007, 09:50 PM
Joesus   Altered state of consciousness are enticing. They ...   Nov 05, 2007, 10:51 PM
forgottenpresence   For one to achieve a higher state of consciousnes...   Nov 06, 2007, 08:56 PM
Joesus   Is a higher state of consciousness an opinion?   Nov 06, 2007, 09:09 PM
Rick   Is a higher state of consciousness an opinion? P...   Nov 07, 2007, 08:39 AM
forgottenpresence   Is a higher state of consciousness an opinion? ...   Nov 09, 2007, 06:14 AM
Joesus   Cop an attitude/Cop a state of consciousness.... :...   Nov 07, 2007, 08:51 AM
forgottenpresence   Cop an attitude/Cop a state of consciousness.... ...   Nov 07, 2007, 10:25 AM
Joesus   :huh:   Nov 07, 2007, 06:11 PM
Joesus   Is it your experience if you assimilate yourself i...   Nov 09, 2007, 08:22 AM
forgottenpresence   Giving an example of another's perspective doe...   Nov 09, 2007, 05:38 PM
Joesus   No? I 'm still waiting for you to speak of you...   Nov 09, 2007, 08:54 PM
forgottenpresence   You will find your answer if you read back a bit.....   Nov 10, 2007, 09:35 AM
forgottenpresence   BAHAH you are the biggest load of BS ego I've ...   Nov 10, 2007, 10:21 AM
Joesus   I made my statement in reference to your posts.....   Nov 10, 2007, 07:22 PM
forgottenpresence   Love and light, Dark master! http://youtube.c...   Nov 11, 2007, 09:22 AM
forgottenpresence   behind the conceptual framework of a dark master l...   Nov 11, 2007, 10:55 AM
forgottenpresence   people can seem so perfect on the outside, it is l...   Nov 11, 2007, 11:05 AM
Joesus   I think what you recognize is what you believe ...   Nov 11, 2007, 11:07 AM
Joesus   The resonance of sensual love or love of the sen...   Nov 11, 2007, 12:00 PM
forgottenpresence   Tell me something I don't know, Joe. And you ...   Nov 12, 2007, 10:01 AM
Joesus   Tell me something I don't know, Joe. And you...   Nov 15, 2007, 09:50 AM
forgottenpresence   You dictate the way things are, and you speak from...   Nov 16, 2007, 02:19 AM
Joesus   You dictate the way things are, and you speak fro...   Nov 16, 2007, 08:34 AM
forgottenpresence   You dictate the way things are, and you speak fr...   Nov 17, 2007, 10:03 AM
Flex   I agree. The more I identify with true love (agape...   Nov 11, 2007, 12:07 PM
trojan_libido   Can I define something without referral to a highe...   Nov 16, 2007, 03:02 AM
forgottenpresence   I thought I'd try and get this train off these...   Nov 18, 2007, 08:41 AM
Joesus   You mean the people you observe who do not meet yo...   Nov 17, 2007, 07:32 PM
forgottenpresence   You mean the people you observe who do not meet y...   Nov 18, 2007, 08:32 AM
Joesus   Only an egoic mind would identify creation or wha...   Nov 18, 2007, 10:36 AM


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