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Tim4848
post Sep 02, 2007, 09:35 PM
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Thank you for reading my thoughts,

You might remember me, I have been here before.

I now know how to communicate with future out of body people in a way that can be measured.

Please fill free to list any expert in this field of science that you know besides me?

Thank you once again for reading my thoughts,
Tim


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post Sep 06, 2007, 08:19 AM
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I FOUND THE FOLLOWING RATHER INTERESTING
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http://www.cod.edu/people/faculty/fancher/Limits.htm
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The three areas of limitation are

* Science can't answer questions about value. For example, there is no scientific answer to the questions, "Which of these flowers is prettier?" or "which smells worse, a skunk or a skunk cabbage?" And of course, there's the more obvious example, "Which is more valuable, one ounce of gold or one ounce of steel?" Our culture places value on the element gold, but if what you need is something to build a skyscraper with, gold, a very soft metal, is pretty useless. So there's no way to scientifically determine value.


* Science can't answer questions of morality. The problem of deciding good and bad, right and wrong, is outside the determination of science. This is why expert scientific witnesses can never help us solve the dispute over abortion: all a scientist can tell you is what is going on as a fetus develops; the question of whether it is right or wrong to terminate those events is determined by cultural and social rules--in other words, morality. The science can't help here.

Note that I have not said that scientists are exempt from consideration of the moral issues surrounding what they do. Like all humans, they are accountable morally and ethically for what they do.


* Finally, science can't help us with questions about the supernatural. The prefix "super" means "above." So supernatural means "above (or beyond) the natural." The toolbox of a scientist contains only the natural laws of the universe; supernatural questions are outside their reach.

In view of this final point, it's interesting how many scientists have forgotten their own limitations. Every few years, some scientist will publish a book claiming that he or she has either proven the existence of a god, or proven that no god exists. Of course, even if science could prove anything (which it can't), it certainly can't prove this, since by definition a god is a supernatural phenomenon.

So the next time someone invokes "scientific evidence" to support his or her point, sit back for a moment and consider whether they've stepped outside of these limitations.
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Tim4848   The Department of Positive out of Body Possibilities   Sep 02, 2007, 09:35 PM
trojan_libido   Can you explain what you mean please?   Sep 03, 2007, 07:27 AM
Rick   From some of his earlier posts, I think Tim means ...   Sep 04, 2007, 03:59 PM
Tim4848   From some of his earlier posts, I think Tim means...   Sep 05, 2007, 11:46 AM
Rick   Do you have proof that they cease to exist when th...   Sep 05, 2007, 03:45 PM
Enki   All scientific evidence and experience indicates ...   Sep 09, 2007, 01:05 PM
code buttons   All scientific evidence and experience indicates...   Sep 11, 2007, 08:48 AM
Enki   [quote name='Enki' post='82710' date='Sep 09, 200...   Sep 11, 2007, 12:29 PM
code buttons   Yes Code Buttons, Reductionism, Exactly! ...   Sep 11, 2007, 01:52 PM
Enki   [quote name='Enki' post='82806' date='Sep 11, 200...   Sep 11, 2007, 07:38 PM
Tim4848   [quote name='Enki' post='82806' date='Sep 11, 20...   Oct 10, 2007, 09:36 PM
Enki   I am setting up the biggest event in somebody lif...   Oct 12, 2007, 10:45 AM
maximus242   I am setting up the biggest event in somebody li...   Dec 11, 2007, 11:56 PM
Lindsay   For what it is worth, check out the following: ===...   Sep 04, 2007, 08:21 PM
trojan_libido   So where does that leave science then? OBE's ...   Sep 04, 2007, 11:18 PM
Lindsay   So where does that leave science then? ... Perhap...   Sep 05, 2007, 01:00 PM
Flex   Doesn't the pineal gland play a major role in ...   Sep 05, 2007, 10:00 AM
Lindsay   "...now that would be a fun conference to be ...   Sep 05, 2007, 01:10 PM
trojan_libido   I doubt the organism you call self will exist, but...   Sep 05, 2007, 11:20 PM
Lindsay   Rick, I am glad you said, "indicates". ...   Sep 06, 2007, 08:10 AM
Rick   Question: would you say, no brain, no mind, no spi...   Sep 06, 2007, 12:04 PM
Lindsay   I FOUND THE FOLLOWING RATHER INTERESTING =========...   Sep 06, 2007, 08:19 AM
Lindsay   Rick, being a spiritual being, states his opinion ...   Sep 06, 2007, 07:23 PM
Rick   My cat gives very spirited chase to mice and birds...   Sep 07, 2007, 09:38 AM
Lindsay   My cat gives very spirited chase to mice and bird...   Sep 07, 2007, 12:41 PM
Enki   Thank you for reading my thoughts, You might rem...   Sep 09, 2007, 12:59 PM
Rick   If it's not the case, then I suggest you show ...   Sep 10, 2007, 12:10 PM
Enki   If it's not the case, then I suggest you show...   Sep 11, 2007, 11:57 AM
Rick   I hope that opinion and observations of the former...   Sep 11, 2007, 01:41 PM
Enki   [quote name='Enki' post='82804' date='Sep 11, 200...   Sep 11, 2007, 07:28 PM
Tim4848   Dear Santa, I have really been good this year, co...   Dec 11, 2007, 10:06 PM


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