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Feb 14, 2010, 12:04 PM
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spammer time
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Feb 14, 2010, 12:08 PM
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| Homegamek |
Aug 05, 2010, 01:39 PM
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UFO files: Winston Churchill 'feared panic' over Second World War RAF incident
watch video: h ttp : // www . telegraph . co . uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/7926037/UFO-files-Winston-Churchill-feared-panic-over-Second-World-War-RAF-incident . html By Andrew Hough, and Peter Hutchison Published: 12:01AM BST 05 Aug 2010 Winston Churchill was accused of ordering a cover-up of a Second World War encounter between a UFO and a RAF bomber because he feared public "panic" and loss of faith in religion, newly released secret files disclose. The former Prime Minister allegedly banned reporting of the “bizarre” incident, off the east coast of England, for half a century amid fears disclosures about unidentified flying objects would create public hysteria. He is said to have made the orders during a secret war meeting with US General Dwight Eisenhower, the then commander of the Allied Forces, at an undisclosed location in America during the latter part of the conflict. The claims are contained in thousands of pages of declassified files on UFOs, released on Thursday online by the National Archives: h ttp : // ufos . nationalarchives . gov . uk/ . The 18 files, which cover from 1995 to 2003, are made up of more than 5,000 pages of reports, letters, and drawings drawn from correspondence with the public and questions raised in parliament. The allegations involving Churchill were made by the grandson of one his personal bodyguards, an RAF officer who overheard the discussion, who wrote to the Ministry of Defence in 1999 inquiring about the incident after his grandfather disclosed details to his family. According to the series of letters, written by the guard's grandson who is now a physicist from Leicester, a reconnaissance plane and its crew were returning from a mission over occupied Europe when they were involved in the war incident. During their flight, on the English coast, possibly near Cumbria, their aircraft was approached by a metallic UFO which shadowed them. Photographs of the object, which the crew claimed had “hovered noiselessly” near the plane, were taken by the crew. Later, during discussions about the unexplained incident, the two men were claimed to have become so concerned by the incident that Churchill ordered it remain secret for 50 years or more. During the meeting, a weapons expert dismissed suggestions the object was a missile as the event was "totally beyond any imagined capabilities of the time". Another person at the meeting raised the possibility of a UFO, at which point Churchill ordered the report to be classified for at least half a century and reviewed by the prime minister to stop “panic” spreading. “There was a general inability for either side to match a plausible account to these observations, and this caused a high degree of concern,” wrote the scientist, whose details are redacted. "Mr Churchill is reported to have made a declaration to the effect of the following: 'This event should be immediately classified since it would create mass panic among the general population and destroy one's belief in the Church'." Apart from telling his daughter – the scientist’s mother – about the incident when she was nine, the bodyguard, who was “greatly affected by his experience”, only disclosed the details to his wife on his deathbed in 1973. The scientist, also an expert in astronomy who said he developed software for use in "spacecraft thermal engineering", was told years later by his mother. Stressing he was not a “crackpot”, he said he wanted to investigate the science behind the incident after his grandfather, who was bound by the Official Secrets Act, remained convinced that the object was secret technology being tested by a foreign power. After investigating the claims, an MoD official said there was no evidence to support the claims as all “UFO files before 1967 were destroyed after five years” due to insufficient public interest. This was supported by a Cabinet Office official. While there was documents supporting the events, historians last night believed it more than likely occurred. They said that Churchill had a known interest with UFOs, even asking for a report in 1952 on “flying saucers” and what it “amounted to”. Dr David Clarke, author of The UFO files and Senior Lecturer in Journalism at Sheffield Hallam University, said the “fascinating” files showed the level of concern about such “bizarre incidents” during the war. “It does tie in with what we already know as you have to remember that this was also long before the phrase UFO was created,” he said. “I suspect there is an element of truth to the statement.” |
| Homegamek |
Aug 05, 2010, 01:51 PM
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What a funny news about Sir Winston, is not it?
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| code buttons |
Aug 05, 2010, 09:29 PM
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What a funny news about Sir Winston, is not it? You have to look at it within the context of the time in order to get a better perspective. The incident happened within just a couple of years of the in(famous) Orson Welles alien invasion radio prank here in the U.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_(radio) |
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Aug 06, 2010, 03:16 PM
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| Homegamek |
Aug 06, 2010, 07:50 PM
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What a funny news about Sir Winston, is not it? You have to look at it within the context of the time in order to get a better perspective. The incident happened within just a couple of years of the in(famous) Orson Welles alien invasion radio prank here in the U.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_(radio) And then for more than a decade as Sir Winston was roaming near apex of British Power the Common People of England were remaining in Common Unawareness about watchful presence of some unknown forces. And all this "to protect their religious believes… " A remarkable example of ‘Democratic’ approach on behalf of a tactful British Aristocrat. Btw, have you noted that by now it is 2010 and only now we learn about those facts. Now imagine what else they are hiding... No one knows about the extent of extraterrestrial manipulation. The only fact that we are visited demands re analyzing of entire history of mankind from that point of view, including security measures. It is a political matter of international scale. United Nations must take swift actions after that publication to evaluate dangers coming to Human Race from those technologies. If world governments shall not take swift open actions to increase peoples' awareness, then it is right and it is the duty of the people to act accordingly. In view of the news about Sir Winston now it is quite clear that Man in Black saga, X-Men saga etc it is a direct propaganda aiming to reconcile mankind with an idea that we are not alone here and moreover that ‘green men’, eventually, may get discovered to be a part of our government or even upper managerial elite, e.g. as USA President Woodrow Wilson once mentioned: "Some of the biggest men in the United States are afraid of something. They know there is a power somewhere, so organised, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." -- USA President Woodrow Wilson Funny is not it? |
| Tone |
Aug 26, 2010, 07:50 PM
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| Hey Hey |
Aug 27, 2010, 08:22 AM
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Everyone has a digital camera/camcorder in their pocket (if only on a mobile phone) and yet almost every UFO picture looks fuzzy and distant. The rest are Chinese lanterns or balloons. Just one piece of credible evidence would do.
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| Rick |
Aug 27, 2010, 11:09 AM
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Absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
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| Hey Hey |
Aug 27, 2010, 06:03 PM
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Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. |
| Tone |
Aug 27, 2010, 09:55 PM
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Everyone has a digital camera/camcorder in their pocket (if only on a mobile phone) and yet almost every UFO picture looks fuzzy and distant. The rest are Chinese lanterns or balloons. Just one piece of credible evidence would do. yes yes, either #1 "there are no close up photos" or #2"all close up photos are faked along with the other data" pick and choose which generic response, today HEY HEY picked #1. tomorrow someone will say #2. while you make these kinds of posts, governments of the world chuckle and already concluded the ET presence over 50 years ago. |
| Hey Hey |
Aug 29, 2010, 04:50 PM
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Everyone has a digital camera/camcorder in their pocket (if only on a mobile phone) and yet almost every UFO picture looks fuzzy and distant. The rest are Chinese lanterns or balloons. Just one piece of credible evidence would do. yes yes, either #1 "there are no close up photos" or #2"all close up photos are faked along with the other data" pick and choose which generic response, today HEY HEY picked #1. tomorrow someone will say #2. while you make these kinds of posts, governments of the world chuckle and already concluded the ET presence over 50 years ago. |
| Trip like I do |
Aug 29, 2010, 07:19 PM
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if there were truly evidence the world would know it.... thats why god made man intelligent and he made sheep.... well, bahhhh
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Aug 30, 2010, 04:27 AM
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| Hey Hey |
Aug 30, 2010, 10:10 AM
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if there were truly evidence the world would know it.... thats why god made man intelligent and he made sheep.... well, bahhhh Don't talk about sheep!... Phi is back! |
| Trip like I do |
Aug 30, 2010, 06:34 PM
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I mean common now people (and pot smoking monkeys).... I do not believe that I am that gullible.... are you? What about you.... or you? I believe that if it were a reality that, not only I, but many many more bright and intelligent people in this world would know and be firmly aware
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| Hey Hey |
Aug 31, 2010, 05:27 PM
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I mean common now people (and pot smoking monkeys).... I do not believe that I am that gullible.... are you? What about you.... or you? I believe that if it were a reality that, not only I, but many many more bright and intelligent people in this world would know and be firmly aware |
| Tone |
Oct 17, 2010, 09:28 PM
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I dont want to have to come back to this thread, why didnt someone else take over
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us...tivity.cnn.html |
| Hey Hey |
Oct 18, 2010, 02:01 PM
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I saw a UFO in Hull a week or so ago. Bright orange glow at the front and travelling fast. It didn't look like any aircraft I've seen. Three of us saw it and noone had an idea what it might have been. I've not been abducted since then, nor have I been afraid to go out in the dark despite seeing The Fourth Kind again on TV. Ah well, back to the sci-fi novels.
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| Tone |
Oct 20, 2010, 10:55 AM
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it would be poetic if hey hey really saw a UFO, and one of the ones that look nothing like Chinese lanterns or balloons. There are silent changing-direction cigar shape ones that glow like glow-in-the-dark materials as a closest analogy, there are all kinds.
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| Hey Hey |
Oct 20, 2010, 12:26 PM
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it would be poetic if hey hey really saw a UFO, and one of the ones that look nothing like Chinese lanterns or balloons. There are silent changing-direction cigar shape ones that glow like glow-in-the-dark materials as a closest analogy, there are all kinds. |
| Tone |
Jun 29, 2012, 06:15 AM
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Senior CIA: Roswell was Real
http://news.exopoliticsinstitute.org/index...-happened76459/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmYVx2Ep3QU |
| Magister Hayk |
Jul 01, 2012, 05:32 AM
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Btw Mr. Tone,
Have you noted that the Greenland map mentioned by Mr. Enki at Google Map now changed in appearance the squares he mentioned disappeared from it?: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=70.65....506836&t=h&z=5 As you can see absolutly clear ice. |
| Magister Hayk |
Jul 01, 2012, 06:03 AM
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Here are the original shapshots of the Greenland with those squares, let it remain here for the inhabitants of the Planet of Monkeys:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-ckqxqani1ZSDY5OXV5RUFEN2M https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-ckqxqani1ZcGY1VFd2VjViaE0 ![]() ![]() |
| Magister Hayk |
Jul 02, 2012, 10:38 PM
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And please note, that when representatives of the Planet of Monkeys for such a long period of time been ignoring self-evident facts that obviously indicates how dip they are zombifide.
In any case this thread is terrifically amazing. |
| Tone |
Jul 07, 2012, 07:12 AM
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| Abolitionist |
Jul 19, 2012, 08:51 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpK5a5l8Y58 if this short video interests you , then scroll up and hit case for nasa UFOs http://www.wanttoknow.info/12/07_cia_official_ets_real |
| Tone |
Apr 10, 2013, 10:54 AM
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