Hyperreality Options

[Hey Hey]

Should hyperreality be an accepted element of a singularized consciousness?

[trojan_libido]

Since evolution tends to speed up, hyper reality may be a good description.

[Trip like I do]

Is it a hyperreality or are we all just becoming hyperactive?

[Hey Hey]

Is it a hyperreality or are we all just becoming hyperactive?

Maybe hyperreactive!

[trojan_libido]

I suppose we will need to become hyperactive, and speak in clicks and other strange mouth noises. Then we'll need to be hyperreactive to our surroundings. I guess it'll just be Hyper

[Hey Hey]

I guess it'll just be Hyper

Administered with a hyperdermic?

[Trip like I do]

I guess it'll just be Hyper

Administered with a hyperdermic?

.... as long as it aims are towards becoming hyperaware, not hyper sensitive! Although I do like to be hyper stimulized,... ladies, want to come for a ride on me boat.... lol! Where have all the women gone on this forum. Its like one big sausage fest around here.

[Trip like I do]

.... has everything become hyper relative?

[Trip like I do]

I suppose we will need to become hyperactive, and speak in clicks and other strange mouth noises. Then we'll need to be hyperreactive to our surroundings. I guess it'll just be Hyper

.... to think actively and to actively think.

[Lao_Tzu]

Hyperreality is something scarier than you may realise.

This from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality):

Hyperreality is a way of characterising the way the consciousness interacts with "reality". Specifically, when a consciousness loses its ability to distinguish reality from fantasy, and begins to engage with the latter without understanding what it is doing, it has shifted into the world of the hyperreal.

Most aspects of hyperreality can be thought of as "reality by proxy." For example, a viewer watching pornography begins to live in the non-existent world of the pornography, and even though the pornography is not an accurate depiction of sex, for the viewer, the reality of "sex" becomes something non-existent.

Umberto Eco looked at Disney as an example of hyperreality... a glitzy facade that was "more exciting, more beautiful, more inspiring, more terrifying, and generally more interesting than what we encounter in everyday life. In his description of Disney, Eco also saw that behind the facades lurks a sales pitch. Put these ideas together and you have a succinct characterization of the age, which is forever offering us something that seems better than real in order to sell us something."

The hyperreal results when consciousness cannot distinguish reality from imagination, and gets lost in the latter without realising it, or is lured into that state by the promise of a reward (a sales pitch). Not good, in my books. If that's the hyperreal, is hyperreality the unwitting experience of a fantasy world successfully masquerading as reality?

If so then I would say no, it ought not to be an accepted element of any consciousness. We ought to see the world as it is, not as we would prefer it to be or are fooled into thinking it is.

[trojan_libido]

So entertainment and marketing hope to get us hooked into these hyperreality states to sell their product. Thats grim news.

[Trip like I do]

Hyperreality is something scarier than you may realise.

This from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality):

Hyperreality is a way of characterising the way the consciousness interacts with "reality". Specifically, when a consciousness loses its ability to distinguish reality from fantasy, and begins to engage with the latter without understanding what it is doing, it has shifted into the world of the hyperreal.

Most aspects of hyperreality can be thought of as "reality by proxy." For example, a viewer watching pornography begins to live in the non-existent world of the pornography, and even though the pornography is not an accurate depiction of sex, for the viewer, the reality of "sex" becomes something non-existent.

Umberto Eco looked at Disney as an example of hyperreality... a glitzy facade that was "more exciting, more beautiful, more inspiring, more terrifying, and generally more interesting than what we encounter in everyday life. In his description of Disney, Eco also saw that behind the facades lurks a sales pitch. Put these ideas together and you have a succinct characterization of the age, which is forever offering us something that seems better than real in order to sell us something."

The hyperreal results when consciousness cannot distinguish reality from imagination, and gets lost in the latter without realising it, or is lured into that state by the promise of a reward (a sales pitch). Not good, in my books. If that's the hyperreal, is hyperreality the unwitting experience of a fantasy world successfully masquerading as reality?

If so then I would say no, it ought not to be an accepted element of any consciousness. We ought to see the world as it is, not as we would prefer it to be or are fooled into thinking it is.

Now that sounds like complete jibberish, I ain't bying it.... snap back to reality.

Hyperreality could be seen as having the ability to see the reality on that plane as well, maybe even simultaneously, one reality parraleling the reality on another plane of experience in any given moment of duration.

[Lao_Tzu]

Hyperreality could be seen as having the ability to see the reality on that plane as well, maybe even simultaneously, one reality parraleling the reality on another plane of experience in any given moment of duration.

Well I'm kinda in the dark here too, I just looked it up on the net and that's what I found.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "Hyperreality could be seen as having the ability to see the reality on that plane as well"? Do you mean the plane of constructed reality, as in the hyperreality I quoted earlier? Or some (or any?) other kind of plane?

It might be possible to perceive two different conceptual frameworks for interpreting the same reality (e.g. the brand values of the McDonalds' M at the same time as the actual material of the glowing yellow plastic).

But I'm not sure that it's tenable to speak of two distinct realities, paralleling one another. If we call a reality a set of all that is real then you could not have two separate such sets, because the proper reality would be the sum of all such sets, and it's only by problematic semantic contortions that a subset of the whole could be called a different reality. (Even if there are two completely different types of experience happening simultaneously, if they were separate realities then they wouldn't be temporally comparable and we couldn't speak of them. Any two or more events, experiences, things, or sets thereof must both be of the same one reality.)

Reality does include what we think about reality, but the content of those thoughts need not correspond to reality itself. So we might develop thoughts about the way reality is, but while those thoughts are part of reality, their content might be untrue. Believing the untrue content of the thoughts, and taking that to be reality, we could construct the hyperreal.

Or that is my initial understanding following superficial research on the subject.

Definitions from writers about hyperreality (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality):

"The simulation of something which never really existed." - Jean Baudrillard
"The authentic fake." - Umberto Eco

[Trip like I do]

Since evolution tends to speed up, hyper reality may be a good description.

Dark energy is driving the expansion of the universe at an ever accelerating rate.... hence the underlying physical explanation as to why we are temporally experiencing both subjective and objective reality to occur at a seemingly accelerating rate.

Only when we learn to dilate time and contract space can we at first individually, then collectively slow the process down.

[Trip like I do]

maybe we are already beginning to contract space and dilate time....

.... the contraction of moving bodies, for example, which to Lorentz was an ordinary physical effect like the contraction through cooling, and to Einstein was merely the result of the difference in the times that were regarded as simultaneous by relatively moving observers....

what time is it there?

it's 5:03 pm here!

[Trip like I do]

.... the relativity of assymetrical aging.

[Trip like I do]

motion through the ether retards the rate of working

.... one's clock actually slows down by its motion through the ether, both outward and backward, to record a shorter time for the journey than a clock that has not moved.

[Hey Hey]

motion through the ether retards the rate of working

.... one's clock actually slows down by its motion through the ether, both outward and backward, to record a shorter time for the journey than a clock that has not moved.

If there was an ether, then that might be true. Unfortunately there isn't, so what do you think actually causes the retardation?

[Trip like I do]

I guess I was using that in a metaphorical sense for the concept of space.

How many times to I have to say it? lol .... dilation.

[Trip like I do]

What happens when ones pupil dilates?

[Hey Hey]

Assuming that you mean dilation of space, what do you mean by space?

[Trip like I do]

We contract space by dilating time .....temporally.

.... but what do I actually know, I'm merely philosophiizng.

[Enki]

Let us not divert from key scientific concepts otherwise this philosophic discussion may lead us astray.

[Trip like I do]

Sometimes it is beneficial to be led astray.... but what I am philosophizing is not leading anywhere except towards sharing an understanding and experience of the hyper real.

[Hey Hey]

an understanding and experience of the hyper real.

You got it!

[Enki]

Sometimes it is beneficial to be led astray.... but what I am philosophizing is not leading anywhere except towards sharing an understanding and experience of the hyper real.

Those who are lead by rational desire to construct, improve and learn should be guided by rational wisdom and strive to express ideas and concepts in most clear way so to stimulate others to catch the expressed ideas promptly and develop them into something more interesting, thus putting new brick on the old one.

So please indicate the aims of this particular quest and please be very cautious while utilizing scientific terminology at the philosophizing process.

[Trip like I do]

an understanding and experience of the hyper real.

You got it!

.... lol, I've always had it! I am now merely sharing and enlightening so that others will finally get it and aid others like myself in pulling the masses out of the turbidty of their ignorance for the betterment of the human species. Are you ready? Can you handle the new reality thats at your doorstep? Will you venture out and explore with your newly acquired heightened sensorial aperati, or will you cower in the basement of past failed temporal trajectories?

[Trip like I do]

Sometimes it is beneficial to be led astray.... but what I am philosophizing is not leading anywhere except towards sharing an understanding and experience of the hyper real.

Those who are lead by rational desire to construct, improve and learn should be guided by rational wisdom and strive to express ideas and concepts in most clear way so to stimulate others to catch the expressed ideas promptly and develop them into something more interesting, thus putting new brick on the old one.

So please indicate the aims of this particular quest and please be very cautious while utilizing scientific terminology at the philosophizing process.

..!.. <--- that's me giving you the finger!

Ummmm..... no, I don't think I'll do that.... I enjoy the linguistic plasticity of vocabulary. So why don't you just crawl back into your tea induced hysterically myopic, rational and absolute brick brain and come back when something more bubbleous and maleable hits you. Quick, I think someone is hacking you right now.

I'm not here to give answers, I'm here to steer people off on relatively appropriate trajectories.... aren't you listening?

Cracks are starting to appear in the bastions.

Sometimes being led astray helps one establish what it was they were looking for in the first place.

The word matrix is vaster and more complex than you could ever possibly fathom.

All the grammar that you got has become miscellaneous.

[Trip like I do]

.... riddle me this!

Do you expand or contract space? Do you accelerate or dilate time?

[Enki]

Sometimes it is beneficial to be led astray.... but what I am philosophizing is not leading anywhere except towards sharing an understanding and experience of the hyper real.

Those who are lead by rational desire to construct, improve and learn should be guided by rational wisdom and strive to express ideas and concepts in most clear way so to stimulate others to catch the expressed ideas promptly and develop them into something more interesting, thus putting new brick on the old one.

So please indicate the aims of this particular quest and please be very cautious while utilizing scientific terminology at the philosophizing process.

..!.. <--- that's me giving you the finger!

Ummmm..... no, I don't think I'll do that.... I enjoy the linguistic plasticity of vocabulary. So why don't you just crawl back into your tea induced hysterically myopic, rational and absolute brick brain and come back when something more bubbleous and maleable hits you. Quick, I think someone is hacking you right now.

I'm not here to give answers, I'm here to steer people off on relatively appropriate trajectories.... aren't you listening?

Cracks are starting to appear in the bastions.

Sometimes being led astray helps one establish what it was they were looking for in the first place.

The word matrix is vaster and more complex than you could ever possibly fathom.

All the grammar that you got has become miscellaneous.

The bastions will never fail! Nobody is able to question their incessant power!

Do not forget that I am the inventor of the Words Matrixes concept and only I know their true power under the sun. Remember that!

Nobody can hack the Invisible Empire Trip!

Surrender my dear, brave, rebellious artist and enjoy the glamour of the Kingdom of Wisdom!

Do you like a cup of tea Earl Gray without lemon?