| Hey Hey |
Dec 05, 2006, 11:04 PM
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Technically, every man woman and child is agnostic, there are no theists or atheists. We can believe we know, but in the true sense of what it is to know something, the existence of God is not like that. I can say there is a cup on the table and I can say I there is a God but the existence of the cup is 'knowable' (with caveats for my ability to interpret my senses). I think this was one of Mark Vernon's points.
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| Lindsay |
Dec 07, 2006, 04:30 PM
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Rick, you quote me, "GØD = existence." I will add: GØD is TOTAL (physical, mental and spiritual) existence.
If this is what Spinoza meant, I agree with Spinoza, for now. I always reserve the right to change my mind. Rick, at this point, I understand that you are NOT an atheist, right? If not, what then are you? In addition, please clarify what do you do mean by QUOTE As to the atheist "dealing" with physical, mental, and spiritual existence, if we assume there is no need for a god (or GØD) concept, then your equation becomes meaningless and unnecessary. It's much simpler that way. Notice that your equation, above, is giving two names to the same thing. BTW, is there any law against "giving two names to the same thing"? |
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