Do evolutionary devices limit our experience?, A question of wonder, not necessarily debate. Options

[Ignorance Is Eternal]

This thought dawned on me while eating wonderful Palaak Paneer:

If the neural devices that encourage evolution change the way we react to certain things, (ie pleasurable sense-experience) then does our scope of experience (as a human race) not grow but rather shift?

An analogy for possible clarity:

There are two different plastic shovels (the tiny toy ones). Shovel A has a sieve base, and Shovel B has a solid base. Shovel A can pick up a good amount of sand at one time, but the sand that is first picked up is sorted out to make room for more sand.

Does our scope of experience (as a human race) not grow(like shovel B's relationship to the sand) but rather shift(like shovel A's relationship to the sand)?

I hope that is clear.

[Joesus]

You'd like to be put into the matrix?

[Ignorance Is Eternal]

You'd like to be put into the matrix?

Eludicate.

[Joesus]

You'd like to be put into the matrix?

Eludicate.

You mean elucidate?

There is a book you might like reading.

It's called "Bleeding Sun" by Samuel Sagan

Tho the whole series that precedes it makes it all come together.

[Ignorance Is Eternal]

You mean elucidate?

There is a book you might like reading.

It's called "Bleeding Sun" by Samuel Sagan

Tho the whole series that precedes it makes it all come together.

Thank you for the correction.

The book sounds interesting.

But what did you mean by "You'd like to be put into the matrix?"

[Joesus]

Timothy leary believed taking LSD was a pathway to stabilizing higher states of consciousness. The reason no one ever did was because the foundation of belief was that the lesser state was real and the higher was beyond the ability to naturally attain.
The manipulation of consciousness by artificial means may lead to some kind of altered state but such a device would circumvent an existing foundation of conditioning within the nervous system.
Consciousness is intimately connected at the cellular level, any circumnavigation would have to take into consideration all facets of the foundation created and where it came from.

Lets say you made the heads of state happy by giving them everything they want. They are not inherently obligated to pass on the sentiment to the rest of the Kingdom. If they did it may take some time for the rest of the body to catch up.

[Rick]

But what did you mean by "You'd like to be put into the matrix?"

I think Joesus was referring to the movie where the Judas-like character made a deal with the Agent to be put back into the Matrix (an escape from reality).

[Ignorance Is Eternal]

Lets say you made the heads of state happy by giving them everything they want. They are not inherently obligated to pass on the sentiment to the rest of the Kingdom. If they did it may take some time for the rest of the body to catch up.

I wasn't necessarily speaking change within one generation, I was thinking on a much larger scale: over generations and generations does the human races scope of experience expand or just shift.

Also, I wasn't trying to say,"I want to have all those experiences!" It was more a question of speculation because I do not know which occurs.

And I still don't see how any of that would make things unrealistic.

[Trip like I do]

try looking into richard maurice bucke's 'cosmic consciousness'.

[Hey Hey]

try looking into richard maurice bucke's 'cosmic consciousness'.

The old ones are always the best, eh?

[Lao_Tzu]

Do evolutionary devices limit our experience?

To answer this question I suppose one might have to go back 22,000 years and check the mind-state of a San bushman in Africa... (wouldn't that be a trip?)

But logically it might stand to reason that a species' overall sense experience is not expanded but just altered over generations. Assuming that the processing of sense data requires resources, it makes sense to process only the relevant data. If data become irrelevant but energy is still spent processing it, individuals who don't waste energy in this way would have greater reproductive fitness than individuals who do.

Thus, we currently do not have the sense experience that allows birds to navigate around the globe, or the sonar sense of dolphins... though at one stage our genetic precursors might have had these senses.