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post Dec 01, 2006, 11:07 PM
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Is synergy already a universal law?
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post May 22, 2007, 05:24 PM
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Rick tells us:
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Interstellar space is the hardest vacuum known and it contains about one atom per cubic meter. Hard vacuum is generated on Earth in chambers for testing spacecraft and other devices. The vacuums of which every person (except astronauts) has personal experience are artificial.

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Is this is a statement of fact, or is it just one of faith?
If it is a proveable fact, how does one go about proving it to be such?
Is there is such a thing as an absolute vacuum, that is, one which contains no atoms at all?
If so, can this phenomenon be measured and proved to be as claimed?
What is a soft vacuum?
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post May 23, 2007, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE(Lindsay @ May 22, 2007, 06:24 PM) *
[vacuum is emptiness] Is this is a statement of fact, or is it just one of faith?
If it is a proveable fact, how does one go about proving it to be such?
Is there is such a thing as an absolute vacuum, that is, one which contains no atoms at all?
If so, can this phenomenon be measured and proved to be as claimed?
What is a soft vacuum?


1. It's an empirical fact. See various astronomy references.

2. Yes. Take a cubic meter with one atom in it and divide it in half. One half will have a 50-50 chance of having no atoms in it.

3. If you wanted to spend a lot of money, you could produce a total vacuum and spend some time proving it was empty by scanning it with a fine laser.

4. A soft vacuum is less costly to produce than a hard vacuum. Soft vacuums are used for various test and research purposes, and also in Cathode Ray Tubes (CRTs) and magnatrons. Soft vacuum is measured in torr. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torr
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post May 24, 2007, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE(Rick @ May 23, 2007, 07:40 AM) *

QUOTE(Lindsay @ May 22, 2007, 06:24 PM) *
[vacuum is emptiness]
1. Is this a statement of fact, or is it just one of faith?
2. If it is a proveable fact, how does one go about proving it to be such?
3. Is there is such a thing as an absolute vacuum, that is, one which contains no atoms at all?
4. If so, can this phenomenon be measured and proved to be as claimed?
What is a soft vacuum?
1. It's an empirical fact. See various astronomy references.

2. Yes. Take a cubic meter with one atom in it and divide it in half. One half will have a 50-50 chance of having no atoms in it.
3. If you wanted to spend a lot of money, you could produce a total vacuum and spend some time proving it was empty by scanning it with a fine laser.
4. A soft vacuum is less costly to produce than a hard vacuum. Soft vacuums are used for various test and research purposes, and also in Cathode Ray Tubes (CRTs) and magnatrons. Soft vacuum is measured in torr. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torr
As one who did some basic studies in physics, decades ago, and who is still very interested in it, Rick, I really appreciate you taking the trouble to answer my questions which I just got around to reading. I found your answers very congruent with my philosophy of religion.

In the Spirit of dialogue and of the new thread, ON RELIGION, started by Max, here, at this point--I am always open to change-- is what I believe this has to do with what I call GØD, or, as you term IT, Nature:

Our very ancient and unsophisticated ancestors, IMO, sensed gods in almost everything and everywhere. And, loving to fight, they warred in the name of their gods.
Later, the more sophisticated ancients simple lumped all the gods into one. The semitics called Him:
Elohim (the highest power),
Allah (the highest power),
The Greeks and Latins called Him, Theos (the highest idea), Deus, Deos, Dieu (the highest idea),
We anglos called Him, God (the highest Good, Love). All, loving to fight, and claiming to have God on our side, added politics and economics to the mix and continued to "enjoy" the glory of battle.

Certain wise people among the ancients, including Jesus, sought to speak of GOD in a way other than in terms of matter, space and time.
The Semites called it Ruach, Rooka, Ruh--meaning air, wind, breath.
The Latins called it Spiritus, Spirito; the Greeks callled it Pneuma.
We Anglos call it Spirit.
If as you say, there is such a "thing" as vacuum--space without matter, or atoms, then I can just as easily call it Vacuum.
For me, this means that I can say that Nature, or G0D, is ALL Vacuum, plus all measurable matter within it. I cannot imagine anything beyond that. God, or gods, less than that are, for me, too small. For me, it is the One Unifying factor.
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QUOTE(Lindsay @ May 24, 2007, 08:01 AM) *
For me, this means that I can say that Nature, or GØD--IMHO, G?D is also an acceptable of writing the god-idea--is ALL Vacuum, plus all measureable matter within it. I cannot imagine anything beyond that. God, or gods, less than that are, for me, too small. For me, it is the One Unifying factor.

In addition to mass-energy, there exists consciousness, which nobody yet has been able to explain.
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Hey Hey   A better term for God   Dec 01, 2006, 11:07 PM
Joesus   There is only One. Synergy is a fragmented awarene...   Dec 01, 2006, 11:09 PM
Hey Hey   There is only One. Synergy is a fragmented awaren...   Dec 01, 2006, 11:11 PM
Joesus   Simplicity is often ignored in favor of creating a...   Dec 01, 2006, 11:14 PM
Hey Hey   Simplicity is often ignored in favor of creating ...   Dec 01, 2006, 11:25 PM
Joesus   God has a belief system? Is this part of the analy...   Dec 02, 2006, 12:59 AM
Hey Hey   God has a belief system? Is this part of the anal...   Dec 02, 2006, 02:05 AM
Joesus   Yes, by all means, but lets get back to the name o...   Dec 02, 2006, 11:09 AM
Flex   Makes sense in your eyes~ Can you give us a clear ...   Dec 02, 2006, 12:41 PM
Joesus   Labels are superfluous to the absolute, only the e...   Dec 02, 2006, 05:59 PM
Chip   How about "all" what Buckminster Fuller ...   Mar 08, 2007, 09:51 AM
Joesus   There is really nothing wrong with any term. The t...   Mar 08, 2007, 10:50 AM
Chip   I agree with you except for your first sentence, ...   Mar 08, 2007, 12:54 PM
Joesus   Uh yeah... but who is going to be in charge of mak...   Mar 08, 2007, 06:17 PM
Chip   Two things have and will enforce more intelligent ...   Mar 08, 2007, 07:20 PM
Joesus   Are we there yet? I spent some time in the southe...   Mar 08, 2007, 11:13 PM
Joesus   It applies to the ego and its points of reference ...   Mar 09, 2007, 08:35 PM
maximus242   Joesus, I have to ask, do you consider yourself to...   Mar 09, 2007, 08:39 PM
Joesus   Joesus, I have to ask, do you consider yourself t...   Mar 09, 2007, 10:03 PM
Rick   ... Have I mastered the ego? What would be the...   Mar 12, 2007, 02:26 PM
maximus242   To help me understand, its a genuine question. I a...   Mar 09, 2007, 10:12 PM
Chip   Yeah verily... Me thinks ego is basically the wor...   Mar 10, 2007, 01:36 AM
Joesus   There are two voices actually that are within us, ...   Mar 10, 2007, 10:09 AM
maximus242   Indeed but in the same way, the same deception cou...   Mar 10, 2007, 10:12 PM
Lindsay   MAX, I JUST BECAME AWARE OF THIS THREAD suggesting...   May 22, 2007, 08:59 AM
Joesus   As I said before, Ego places all of its importanc...   Mar 11, 2007, 10:22 AM
Joesus   Of course it is, and it exists in the same way as...   Mar 11, 2007, 07:32 PM
rhymer   A better term for God is "I'll risk it...   Mar 12, 2007, 03:10 PM
Rick   A better term for God is "I'll risk it...   Mar 12, 2007, 03:16 PM
lucid_dream   A better term for God is "I'll risk it...   Mar 12, 2007, 09:34 PM
Joesus   Would you apply "nature" to a vacuum?   Mar 12, 2007, 06:53 PM
Rick   Would you apply "nature" to a vacuum? I...   Mar 13, 2007, 07:51 AM
Chip   I totally agree with you Rick. The thing is if we...   Mar 14, 2007, 10:04 AM
Hey Hey   A better term for God is   Mar 12, 2007, 07:16 PM
Chip   Hmmm. Kirby, Hoover, Dust Devil...? Seriously ...   Mar 12, 2007, 07:31 PM
rhymer   ...just in case... another better term for God is...   Mar 14, 2007, 12:58 PM
Joesus   You could but you would be shortchanging human p...   May 22, 2007, 09:32 AM
Lindsay   Check what Shawn quoted in http://brainmeta.com/f...   May 22, 2007, 11:35 AM
Joesus   So you're willing to give up the "fragile...   May 22, 2007, 11:45 AM
Lindsay   Rick tells us: Questions: Is this is a statement ...   May 22, 2007, 05:24 PM
Rick   [vacuum is emptiness] Is this is a statement of fa...   May 23, 2007, 07:40 AM
Lindsay   [quote name='Lindsay' post='79064' date='May 22, ...   May 24, 2007, 07:01 AM
Rick   For me, this means that I can say that Nature, or ...   Jun 11, 2007, 10:53 AM
Lindsay   ...In addition to mass-energy, there exists consc...   Jun 12, 2007, 12:19 PM
Joesus   What is an atom? 99.99% empty space?   May 22, 2007, 06:11 PM
Rick   What is an atom? 99.99% empty space? I think that...   May 23, 2007, 07:43 AM
Joesus   99.99% Non accessable meaningless space....?   May 23, 2007, 08:26 AM
Rick   99.99% Non accessable meaningless space....? You ...   May 23, 2007, 09:43 AM
Joesus   No way, or no known way?   May 23, 2007, 10:26 AM
Rick   Known physics precludes any meaningful access, unl...   May 23, 2007, 10:52 AM
hello12   hi, i just wanted to ask a question. what are some...   Jun 10, 2007, 06:25 PM


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