God Is In The Magic Mushrooms, Psychedelic drugs could be very good for your mind, heart, soul. Can you believe? Options

[Hey Hey]

http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/

[rhymer]

My conclusion, having read the article is that anyone who has 'mind blowing' experiences after taking psylocybin (or any other psychedelic drug) would have the same experience if they took the 'right' antidepressant*.

I make this statement based on my own experience of taking about 15 types of AD's for depression.
Again, I just wish that writers would state just what these 'spiritual' experiences are.
I could easily call some of my experiences 'spiritual', but realise that just because they are amazing, unexpected and surprising does not mean that they are 'spiritual'.
The human brain when not working optimally, but accepted in its performance as the norm (ie., the same as everybody elses experiences in similar circumstances), is presumed to be supercharged when it starts working optimally (ie., the same as everybody elses experiences in similar circumstances).

*everyone reacts differently to different AD's. It requires experimentation to find the right AD per person.
This is not meant to be a critique on psylocybin; it's just a reflection of my own thoughts.

[BatineAcid]

My conclusion, having read the article is that anyone who has 'mind blowing' experiences after taking psylocybin (or any other psychedelic drug) would have the same experience if they took the 'right' antidepressant*.

I make this statement based on my own experience of taking about 15 types of AD's for depression.
Again, I just wish that writers would state just what these 'spiritual' experiences are.
I could easily call some of my experiences 'spiritual', but realise that just because they are amazing, unexpected and surprising does not mean that they are 'spiritual'.
The human brain when not working optimally, but accepted in its performance as the norm (ie., the same as everybody elses experiences in similar circumstances), is presumed to be supercharged when it starts working optimally (ie., the same as everybody elses experiences in similar circumstances).

*everyone reacts differently to different AD's. It requires experimentation to find the right AD per person.
This is not meant to be a critique on psylocybin; it's just a reflection of my own thoughts.

I disagree completely, based on my experience with anti-depressants. I've tried four different anti-depressants over a period of 5 years. I also think antidepressants are completely irrelevant to the discussion. If you have never tried a tryptamine psychedelic such as psilocybin, like the article said, you will never understand. It is impossible to put into words the spiritual aspect, as it is intrinsic in the effects of the chemical's interaction with your brain. The rapid expansion of thought and completely unique perspective on everything is completely different than the effects of SSRI, SSNRI, and MAOI antidepressants. On top of that, psilocybin only requires one dose, lasting 4 hours, where as antidepressants require continuous dosing, etc, and usually aren't effective for several days or weeks.

[Hey Hey]

On top of that, psilocybin only requires one dose, lasting 4 hours, where as antidepressants require continuous dosing, etc, and usually aren't effective for several days or weeks.

you need to read more on antidepressants, of which there are numerous types, often working on different pathways. yes, usually the antidepressant effect takes weeks to reach an acceptable status, but we aren't talking about the antidepressant effect here ..... are we?

and try ECT (an antidepressant, though not a pharmaceutical in the usual sense), that in most cases has rather an immediate effect!