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post Oct 28, 2007, 12:47 PM
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I feel our Matrix has serious security problems.

I do really wonder, why people do not undersand that
some ideas should not be expressed openly?
A clever man should feel responcibility.
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post Oct 28, 2007, 12:59 PM
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>These babies radiate good energy.

Non scientific terminology.
If one does not know the mechanism of healing one cannot advertise products.
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post Oct 28, 2007, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(Enki @ Oct 28, 2007, 01:59 PM) *

>These babies radiate good energy.

Non scientific terminology.
If one does not know the mechanism of healing one cannot advertise products.


Straight up, that is plain ignorance.

I take it you have not heard of Kirlian technology.

http://www.crystal-life.com/home/library/w...crystals_do.htm

Kirlian photographs of quartz crystals show a white light radiating out from a blue star-like center, another good symbol on its own. And since each crystal is an individual, its Kirlian photograph is as distinctive to it as yours is to you. Experimentation with Kirlian photography and crystals also clearly shows that a crystal�s energy patterns change as its environment changes, just one more thing crystals and humans have in common.

Lead crystal is not actually quartz crystal at all but is glass mixed with lead. While lead crystal prisms refract light spectacularly, they will not have the qualities nor be capable of functioning like natural quartz crystal.[/b]




One does not need to know the mechanisms of healing to benefit from crystal energy. Knowledge of the energy of crystals can be gained through experience with them. I have had powerful experiences with my quartz, just sharing some potentially useful info.
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post Oct 28, 2007, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(Hudzon @ Oct 28, 2007, 01:30 PM) *

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if you want the easy self-hypnosis method just say so and ill type it up for you.

I want some!


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Hope you enjoy Brain Wave Generator dinnie, ive used it for a long time and its been a great tool.

What do you mainly use it for?

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Some methods of achieving alpha state through technology are binaural beats,

Are they safe? Can they be used to either enhance sleep or to wake up faster? Doesn't your mind get confused if it's in one state and you try to forcefully change it to another?

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E.g. listening this music (see attached) you can see the chap Horus at nights.

But I strongly do not recommend listening it to anyone. laugh.gif

I think I know what you mean there, as I came across some similar files a while ago. The link says that the files are missing, though, is that just me or are they really gone? If so, I will be grateful if you would reupload them.


Binaural Beats are quite safe, they can be used with any ordinary headphones, you can download the software for free at www.bwgen.com
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post Oct 28, 2007, 11:36 PM
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/Kirlian technology/

It is not the crystal that radiates, it is the apparatus gas below the glass shows sparks, you can put any object, it will 'radiate'. It is the gas below the glass which marks electromagnetic Waves distortion when ANY OBJECT is inserted in the field!!!

It is simple physics btw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirlian_photography

Scientifically, it is considered more likely that as the leaf loses moisture it becomes less electrically conductive, causing a gradual weakening of the electrical field at the drier edges of the leaf.

David G. Boyers and William A. Tiller (1973). "Corona discharge photography". Journal of Applied Physics 44: 3102-3112.

The accepted physical explanation is that the images produced are those typically caused by a high voltage corona effect, similar to those seen from other high voltage sources such as the Van de Graaff generator or Tesla coil. In a darkened room, this is visible as a faint glow but, because of the high voltages, the film is affected in a slightly different way from the usual. Color photographic film is calibrated to faithfully produce colors when exposed to normal light. The corona discharge has a somewhat different effect on the different layers of dye used to accomplish this result, resulting in various colors depending on the local intensity of the discharge.

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post Oct 29, 2007, 06:48 PM
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I would not believe something just because Wiki said it.

Crystals store and conduct energy. They can even absorb one kind of energy and emit another when squeezed, heated or cooled. Quartz crystal absorbs both magnetism from the Earth̢۪s core and radiation from the Sun, and then emits that energy. Kirlian photography has recorded this energy emission, which appears in photographs as a white-light aura radiating from a blue star center. The energy radiant from clear quartz and other crystals is resonant with the human aura; this is its healing attribute.

http://www.llewellynencyclopedia.com/article/274


Crystals have orderly and symmetrical molecular structures; thus they radiate energy in a consistent and steady manner. This is one of the reasons we're attracted to them. Their energy helps to smooth out our own. Many people who were previously unable to meditate find that laying crystals on or around them induces mental quiet.

http://www.rainbowcrystal.com/crystal/program.html


kirlian.com


Let's look at a definition of radiate -

ra·di·ate /v. ˈreɪdiËŒeɪt; adj. ˈreɪdiɪt, -ËŒeɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[v. rey-dee-eyt; adj. rey-dee-it, -eyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -at·ed, -at·ing, adjective
–verb (used without object)
1. to extend, spread, or move like rays or radii from a center.


In my experience, energy moves from the center, which is the crystal. I feel it spreading into my hands and energy body. Sometimes the feeling is so strong a ball of very hot heat forms around my hands that are holding the crystal. I could see with my third eye the energy that was emanating from the crystal. Please don't deny my experience, because there is no way you can. Feeling is real, and I feel the energy quartz give off. You don't need to tell me otherwise.
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post Oct 29, 2007, 09:55 PM
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I do not deny your experience; it is a matter of research but not a ground for jumping to conclusions. I respect your experience as I do highly respect any spiritual experience.

Many crystals have dipole structure and have quite many electromagnetic properties. Many properties are not discovered yet. People are researching the subject. Vibrating dipoles certainly perturb the electromagnetic field surrounding any crystal. Any electromagnetic wave somehow influences biological objects. Some waves may resonate with some structural elements of biological objects on molecular level. The resonance may cause some sort of energy transfer (exact cases are not reported in scientific press). There are many specific open questions related with the crystals. I just been accentuating on Kirlian technology which you was bringing along as a solid proof. Non – scientific usage of the word ‘energy’ does not help to construct new ideas, such improper usage of the word ‘energy’ leads astray and shadows mind. I just been pointing at that.

If one does not trust Enki trust Wiki!
Ehhh, it is so sad that I could not manage money and visit
London in December this year to attend conference where Jimmy Wales
is opening keynote speaker. -(

You know Wiki is an excellent source of info. Besides that it brings a link to Journal of Applied Physics. I do really wonder how you can protest in maters related with Kirlian technology?! I agree there are some specific open questions, but they still are a matter of scientific debate.

The rest of the so called energy coming out of some crystals, which you speak about, may be related with zero-waves triggered between crystallographic surfaces of crystals somehow concerned with the Casimir effect, but those ideas are still science fiction and a matter of corridor discussions. But those things are not researched well (absolutely not researched in referable scientific press). It is a matter of future research. Druids liked to speak with crystals, they knew how properly to fluctuate the crystallographic surfaces. But this is a forbidden topic!

I am ill a little and cannot concentrate to write in more details, but I advise you not to jump to conclusions so easily. Remember about misleading. Wrong suppositions may lead you astray. Spiritual experiences does not always tell the truth. They may help the critical analytic reason to find the truth.


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post Oct 29, 2007, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(Joesus @ Oct 28, 2007, 09:55 AM) *

I don't think so, I think what Enki is implying is that higher states of awareness naturally connect you to what Enki calls the natural state of being the Tea club.
Resonance to emotional states and personal value. Like attracts like, etc. etc.


Just look at this guy.

QUOTE(Joesus @ Oct 28, 2007, 09:55 AM) *

In this case a mechanical device that alters the brain waves to align with cohesive mental efficiency and upward spiraling creativity.


A mechanical device. Hmmmm. Very interesting.
Maybe you have a picture of that device, I am just interested.
You know those words in shadow does not clarify anything.
Hope you do not speak about Robert's chronovisor.

And please go on and disclose to us what is "This case".

I added you to ignore list and just accidentally clicked and opened the post and got surprised.
What a hell you are talking about Joesus?!!!
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post Oct 29, 2007, 10:36 PM
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Fair enough, Enki. It is good I suppose to question what appear to be my beliefs, conclusions, and how I interpret my experiences. It is good to know that these thoughts are but mere projections of a subjective reality I continue to experience and lean on for gaining knowledge of such matters.

Energy is the root of all things, what I receive from quartz can be interpreted in so many ways - depending on the observer and his mental construct of reality. I still don't think calling it energy is wrong at all, as energy is everything when perceiving from a non-dual non-egocentric perspective. Sure some may get confused over my interpretation but some will also get confused over the scientific approach to describing all of this.


And pardon my Wiki comment, just saying Wiki is not the conclusion of such things from what I observe. Good to consider multiple perspectives and not rely on only one for a source of information. I just seen some things on the net that make me question Wiki -

http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/

Not saying this has anything to do with what we are talking about here, but consider the possibilities..
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post Nov 09, 2007, 07:40 PM
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Consideration of possibilities makes impossible slowly possible.
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post Jan 14, 2009, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE(Enki @ Nov 09, 2007, 07:40 PM) *

Consideration of possibilities makes impossible slowly possible.


I didn't read all the posts, but it ended nicely so I thought I'd say goodnight. 'Alpha level' has top-priority clearance, and pass keys to the executive pisser. Free doughnuts and coffee will be provided. Getting there is of your "own" personal choice. Feel free to follow the tracks of those before you, but do remember not to get lost on "your" way. goodnight
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post Jan 19, 2009, 07:14 AM
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I prefer my DAVID light & sound machine (they're made by a company called Mind Alive in Canada). I find that audiovisual entrainment works for me whereas audio entrainment alone doesn't do anything significant. Basically, you listen to a pulsed beat (usually masked by classical or some other soothing music) through headphones whilst wearing goggles with flashing LED bulbs over your closed eyelids.

There is a PC-based version of this technology, check out Transparent Corp. You can download a 15 day trial of their Neuroprogrammer software, but it's not very expensive if you decide to purchase.
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Can I recommend thinking harddddddd and longgggggg .... It can get you up there ...
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QUOTE(dinnie @ Aug 01, 2006, 05:12 AM) *

Ok, all the mind power enthusiasts out there must have known about the levels or states of our consciousness namely alpha, beta, theta etc. Jose Silva and other meditation techniques advocate visualising in alpha state of mind. Now, I am interested to know how can we achieve that state. Can you describe the method elaborately? Has anyone ever tried doing it? What about the results -- were you satiesfied with them? I would love to hear you guys.



You can just take some L-Theanine it will induce a alpha state of mind by itself within about 30 minutes of taking it.
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theanine has worked well, when I combine with some yerba chocolate
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QUOTE(Enki @ Aug 01, 2006, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(dinnie @ Aug 01, 04:12 AM) *

Ok, all the mind power enthusiasts out there must have known about the levels or states of our consciousness namely alpha, beta, theta etc. Jose Silva and other meditation techniques advocate visualising in alpha state of mind. Now, I am interested to know how can we achieve that state. Can you describe the method elaborately? Has anyone ever tried doing it? What about the results -- were you satiesfied with them? I would love to hear you guys.


E.g. listening this music (see attached) you can see the chap Horus at nights.

But I strongly do not recommend listening it to anyone. laugh.gif


Help ! I can't download this file. It says error in the board. Can you provide me some sort of external link ?
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QUOTE(Jakeneo @ Jul 18, 2009, 04:31 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Aug 01, 2006, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(dinnie @ Aug 01, 04:12 AM) *

Ok, all the mind power enthusiasts out there must have known about the levels or states of our consciousness namely alpha, beta, theta etc. Jose Silva and other meditation techniques advocate visualising in alpha state of mind. Now, I am interested to know how can we achieve that state. Can you describe the method elaborately? Has anyone ever tried doing it? What about the results -- were you satiesfied with them? I would love to hear you guys.


E.g. listening this music (see attached) you can see the chap Horus at nights.

But I strongly do not recommend listening it to anyone. laugh.gif


Help ! I can't download this file. It says error in the board. Can you provide me some sort of external link ?

yeah, i would like to hear it too
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QUOTE(airjaws @ Feb 01, 2010, 02:32 PM) *

yeah, i would like to hear it too


Thanks for reviving the topic, after a few months.

Alpha waves of the mind is just a small indicator of the benefits of meditation, when rightly taken up. The research mentions clearly that you have similar waves, when you sleep as well. So there's nothing mystical or exclusive about them.

Normally, our mind is hyper-active with thought processes. But this is not necessarily linked to gaining energy or a peaceful or a positive state of mind. Often we end up tired, distracted and restless.

Jumpiness yields no results. On the contrary, when you focus on any specific experience, especially of the five senses, it becomes absolutely easy for you to deepen them and stay with them for long hours, which necessarily yields a freshness of the mind.

Refuting this is like someone who is not accustomed to cycling arguing with all others that it's impossible to balance oneself on two wheels.

But with little bit of results attained through focusing on simple experience, there's a whole lot of hype on the merits of meditation.

The higher merits arise, only when you learn how to focus on energy-giving ideas and truths. I would leave it abrupt here and would explain if there's an interest.
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