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post Jul 07, 2006, 09:39 AM
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Push for Simpler Spelling Persists
By DARLENE SUPERVILLE


WASHINGTON (AP) - When ``say,'' ``they'' and ``weigh'' rhyme, but ``bomb,'' ``comb'' and ``tomb'' don't, wuudn't it maek mor sens to spel wurdz the wae thae sound?

Those in favor of simplified spelling say children would learn faster and illiteracy rates would drop. Opponents say a new system would make spelling even more confusing.

Eether wae, the consept has yet to capcher th publix imajinaeshun.

It's been 100 years since Andrew Carnegie helped create the Simplified Spelling Board to promote a retooling of written English and President Theodore Roosevelt tried to force the government to use simplified spelling in its publications. But advocates aren't giving up.

They even picket the national spelling bee finals, held every year in Washington, costumed as bumble bees and hoisting signs that say ``Enuf is enuf but enough is too much'' or ``I'm thru with through.''

Thae sae th bee selebraets th ability of a fue stoodents to master a dificult sistem that stumps meny utherz hoo cuud do just as wel if speling were simpler.

``It's a very difficult thing to get something accepted like this,'' acknowledges Alan Mole, president of the American Literacy Council, which favors an end to ``illogical spelling.'' The group says English has 42 sounds spelled in a bewildering 400 ways.

Americans doen't aulwaez go for whut's eezy - witnes th faeluer of th metric sistem to cach on. But propoenents of simpler speling noet that a smatering of aulterd spelingz hav maed th leep into evrydae ues.

Doughnut also is donut; colour, honour and labour long ago lost the British ``u'' and the similarly derived theatre and centre have been replaced by the easier-to-sound-out theater and center.

``The kinds of progress that we're seeing are that someone will spell night 'nite' and someone will spell through 'thru,''' Mole said. ``We try to show where these spellings are used and to show dictionary makers that they are used so they will include them as alternate spellings.''

Lurning English reqierz roet memory rather than lojic, he sed.

In languages with phonetically spelled words, like German or Spanish, children learn to spell in weeks instead of months or years as is sometimes the case with English, Mole said.

But education professor Donald Bear said to simplify spelling would probably make it more difficult because words get meaning from their prefixes, suffixes and roots.

``Students come to understand how meaning is preserved in the way words are spelled,'' said Bear, director of the E.L. Cord Foundation Center for Learning and Literacy at the University of Nevada, Reno.

Th cuntry's larjest teecherz uennyon, wuns a suporter, aulso objects.

Michael Marks, a member of the National Education Association's executive committee, said learning would be disrupted if children had to switch to a different spelling system. ``It may be more trouble than it's worth,'' said Marks, a debate and theater teacher at Hattiesburg High School in Mississippi.

E-mail and text messages are exerting a similar tug on the language, sharing some elements with the simplified spelling movement while differing in other ways. Electronic communications stress shortcuts like ``u'' more than phonetics. Simplified spelling is not always shorter than regular spelling - sistem instead of system, hoep instead of hope.

Carnegie tried to moov thingz along in 1906 when he helpt establish and fund th speling bord. He aulso uezd simplified speling in his correspondens, and askt enywun hoo reported to him to do the saem.

A filanthropist, he becaem pashunet about th ishoo after speeking with Melvil Dewey, a speling reform activist and Dewey Desimal sistem inventor hoo simplified his furst naem bi droping ``le'' frum Melville.

Roosevelt tried to get the government to adopt simpler spellings for 300 words but Congress blocked him. He used simple spellings in all White House memos, pressing forward his effort to ``make our spelling a little less foolish and fantastic.''

The Chicago Tribune aulso got into th act, uezing simpler spelingz in th nuezpaeper for about 40 years, ending in 1975. Plae-riet George Bernard Shaw, hoo roet moest of his mateerial in shorthand, left muny in his wil for th development of a nue English alfabet.

Carnegie, Dewey, Roosevelt and Shaw's work followed attempts by Benjamin Franklin, Daniel Webster and Mark Twain to advance simpler spelling. Twain lobbied The Associated Press at its 1906 annual meeting to ``adopt and use our simplified forms and spread them to the ends of the earth.'' AP declined.

But for aul th hi-proefiel and skolarly eforts, the iedeea of funy-luuking but simpler spelingz didn't captivaet the masez then - or now.

``I think that the average person simply did not see this as a needed change or a necessary change or something that was ... going to change their lives for the better,'' said Marilyn Cocchiola Holt, manager of the Pennsylvania department of the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh.

Carnegie, hoo embraest teknolojy, died in in 1919, wel befor sel foenz went maenstreem. Had he livd, he probably wuud hav bin pleezd to no that milyonz of peepl send text and instant mesejez evry dae uezing thair oen formz of simplified speling: ``Hav a gr8 day!''

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post Jul 07, 2006, 09:55 AM
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Phonetic spelling will create more problems than it solves. Only people who don't read or write much will find it useful. For example, I find the written distinction between "wait" and "weight" to be very useful in resolving ambiguity in written language.
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post Jul 07, 2006, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Jul 07, 12:55 PM) *

Phonetic spelling will create more problems than it solves. Only people who don't read or write much will find it useful. For example, I find the written distinction between "wait" and "weight" to be very useful in resolving ambiguity in written language.

I tried to come up with a sentence where wait and weight might be confused:

"Wen u visit th doktr, dont be surpriezd if ur waet is eksesiv."

This type of word confusion is already a problem in spoken language and often when written. Jokes are made of this phenomenon all the time on Leno.

I'm fairly fortunate to have somewhat of a photographic memory. Not perfect, by any means, but usually words that are spelled incorrectly just look wrong to me. Not so for a lot of people, and it may have little to do with their intelligence. Just think of the freed-up brain space if we didn't have to waste so much of it on ridiculous spelling that must be memorized! Spanish is a great model. For the most part, everything is spelled exactly as it sounds.
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post Jul 07, 2006, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(OnlyNow @ Jul 07, 07:46 PM) *

Spanish is a great model. For the most part, everything is spelled exactly as it sounds.

Qué?

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post Jul 07, 2006, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Jul 07, 02:16 PM) *

QUOTE(OnlyNow @ Jul 07, 07:46 PM) *

Spanish is a great model. For the most part, everything is spelled exactly as it sounds.

Qué?

Touché. But you have to admit, it's much more consistent than English.

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post Jul 07, 2006, 05:32 PM
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In Austria and Germany many local dialects are spoken. If everbody would write according to the pronunciation communication would be very difficult.
On top comes that certain words have a different meaning in these dialects. For example the word run means in the area I am living, walk ...to avoid misunderstandig we really need a standard.
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post Jul 10, 2006, 09:13 AM
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Wen I went to the doktor's office I had to wate for my wate. The wate turned out to be more than I expected. Am I tu hevvy or did I wate tu long?
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QUOTE(Rick @ Jul 10, 12:13 PM) *

Wen I went to the doktor's office I had to wate for my wate. The wate turned out to be more than I expected. Am I tu hevvy or did I wate tu long?

Regarding ur enormus wate, ur doktor must hav a lot of paeshens!
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I carn't bring myself in2 this dikushon becos I am 2arsed!
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