 True Randomness?, Is anything ever truely random? |
| maximus242 |
 May 15, 2006, 01:07 PM
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Okay I am putting forth the question can anything ever be truely random? I hope most of you already know that all casino games are not perfectly random and can be predicted. What else appears to be random but fails to be truely random? Computer random algorithms base themselves off of time or else they would continually repeat but we know time is not random, it follows a strict code, so is anything ever really random or just appear to be so?
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| lucid_dream |
Jan 14, 2007, 04:50 PM
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even if all variables were known, there's always chaos theory and nonlinear dynamics to contend with, with the result being that knowing the state of a system (i.e., the values of its variables at arbitrarily high, but not infinite, precision) does not imply being able to compute the dynamics or future states of the system.
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maximus242 True Randomness? May 15, 2006, 01:07 PM
lucid_dream anything that appears random is really pseudorando... May 15, 2006, 01:46 PM maximus242 hmm intresting, I was getting the same idea, but I... May 15, 2006, 02:01 PM
OnlyNow Can you say, "determinism"? May 15, 2006, 02:15 PM OnlyNow Maybe quantum mechanics renders something random. May 15, 2006, 02:17 PM maximus242 Detequinism Dammit! no I cant! LOL May 15, 2006, 02:17 PM OnlyNow
Detequinism Dammit! no I cant! LOL
LOL, ... May 15, 2006, 02:18 PM maximus242 hmm thats an intresting concept, im not sure if it... May 15, 2006, 02:20 PM rhymer The one thing I have come across that seems to be ... May 16, 2006, 12:47 PM OnlyNow
The one thing I have come across that seems to be... May 17, 2006, 08:30 AM maximus242 Well what im wondering here is that if it is true ... May 17, 2006, 11:07 AM Flex
Well what im wondering here is that if it is true... Jan 14, 2007, 02:07 PM Casey
I totaly believe that anything and everything cou... Jan 14, 2007, 04:45 PM rhymer Whilst possible future events can be predicted, I ... May 17, 2006, 11:41 AM Hey Hey surely time travel will enable everything to be pr... May 17, 2006, 02:54 PM HiddenVariable "Predictability" is different from deter... Jan 13, 2007, 07:02 PM maximus242 Scientists are already working on predicting neura... Jan 14, 2007, 12:19 PM Casey
Scientists are already working on predicting neur... Jan 14, 2007, 12:50 PM maximus242 Ignorance is bliss but Understanding is enlightenm... Jan 14, 2007, 01:21 PM Casey
You must be willing to lose everything before you... Jan 14, 2007, 01:52 PM Rick even if all variables were known, there's alwa... Jan 15, 2007, 01:32 PM HiddenVariable It is interesting to see everyone touching on the ... Jan 14, 2007, 09:10 PM Casey You know, Flex/Lucid's argument may be more va... Jan 14, 2007, 10:37 PM Enki
It is interesting to see everyone touching on the... Jan 15, 2007, 06:22 AM Hey Hey From Wikipedia: "The word random is used to e... Jan 15, 2007, 11:15 AM Enki
Okay I am putting forth the question can anything... Jan 15, 2007, 06:10 AM Casey
Time can be defined as a sequence of events, one ... Jan 15, 2007, 07:41 AM Enki
Time can be defined as a sequence of events, one... Jan 15, 2007, 11:50 AM HiddenVariable
So, you're saying that even with the uncerta... Jan 15, 2007, 10:14 AM Casey
So you see, it may not be Heisenburg's uncert... Jan 15, 2007, 12:11 PM Enki
Figaro here, Figaro there. :lol:
Enki, you... Jan 15, 2007, 12:49 PM HiddenVariable
[quote name='HiddenVariable' post='75531' date='J... Jan 15, 2007, 04:21 PM rhymer Enki, Just because you seem to be ribbed (avatar) ... Jan 15, 2007, 01:36 PM Enki Hehe, nice ribbing, indeed. I am sorry, I did not ... Jan 15, 2007, 02:09 PM |
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