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Tone
post Mar 30, 2006, 08:41 PM
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trust me, youll feel a lot more focused and improved from taking stablon than any of the other smart drugs like paracetam or huperzine. stablon has a huge effect on neuroplasticity. stablon makes your brain process information faster and easier. its a real head clearer with no side effects. it feels good to lower excess serotonin, excess serotonin is so inhibitory, so stuplifying, makes you feel all weird, gets in the way. you know, MDMA doesnt owe its great effects just to serotonin release.. it actually lowers serotonin activity in the limbic system. Raised Serotonin being good is a myth, thats why people take SSRIs and feel like shit.

research stablon if youd like

http://www.tianeptine.com/
http://www.stablon.com/
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Will Stablon have any effect taking it the first time or it has to be used for a long time before noticing any effects? Thanks!
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post Oct 08, 2006, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(Darksanity @ Sep 12, 2006, 08:19 AM) *

Will Stablon have any effect taking it the first time or it has to be used for a long time before noticing any effects? Thanks!


Hi! :-) I've been on Stablon since March 2005 for major depression and panic disorder at a dosage of 12.5mg QID (4x/day) and didn't notice any effects until day 12 of treatment (12.5mg TID). I felt a sudden onset of what seemed to be adrenaline (although that's probably not what it was) and it lasted for a few days along with feeling jittery but it didn't give me any panic attacks (I have panic disorder, so I'm prone to them). A reduction in appetite was noted. I adjusted the dosage during this time of "activation" and with time I felt my mood improving and anxiety and other general tension decreasing - all without any sedation whatsoever. The jitteriness and "adrenaline-ish" feelings subsided after a few days. SSRIs, on the other hand, produced far worse side effects (for me anyway). I haven't been able to tolerate any antidepressant as well as I have been able to tolerate Stablon...and this one lacks cardiotoxicity since it doesn't affect the sodium channels in the heart.

It took about 4 to 6 weeks to feel the full antidepressant effect and with time its anxiolytic effect becomes more fully pronounced. I do best on 4 tablets a day, rather than 3. I felt three tablets per day to be subtherapeutic, but everyone reacts to medications differently.

Do you have asthma? I do and it really made a difference there. Stablon improves the clinical picture of asthma by removing free serotonin from the bloodstream. Read this website on wikipedia to find out more about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianeptine

If I take two Stablon at once, I can feel a swift mood brightening effect which is pleasurable and I feel more social and better able to concentrate. Rarely, I will experience an "Ecstasy"-like effect where I feel so comfortable and want to touch or hug something... this never happened with any other antidepressants I've tried. It's only happened 5 times or less in the entire time I've been on Stablon, but I loved that. I have never taken MDMA though, but when I described this unique effect to friends with knowledge of MDMA, they said this sounds like a very mild "Ecstasy"-like effect.

I've never experienced any withdrawal symptoms from it. When I did reduce the dosage (all the way down to 1 tablet per day, albeit gradually over a 2 to 3 week period), I just felt anxiety and depression returning, but not in any rebound sort of fashion.

I'm also on diazepam (Valium) and Stablon seems to make it much easier to taper downward my dosage. Stablon has been shown to block panic attacks as effectively as Paxil.

The reason you must take it at least 3 times per day is because it has a short half-life.

I am glad I found Stablon. I can also get Survector (amineptine) and you are welcome to ask me about how to get it legally, because it is legal in many countries and it is still available where I live, although it is just remaining stock. For example, it is not scheduled in the US or the UK.
I know a lot of people have asked me about Survector and Stablon in other forums on the internet. I would recommend it for non-neurotic depression and recommend Stablon for any type of depression, especially depression with neurotic features as it is anxiolytic too.
I would especially recommend it for anyone who wants to preserve their sex drive, because as is well-known, SSRIs destroy the libidos of many and have even caused what is known as PSSD (Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction) which persists for months and even years after discontinuing the SSRI.

Recent research has shown that it does increase dopamine in the nucleus accumbens and cortex and this may play a role in its antidepressant effect and why this drug has no sexual side effects. If anything, it may increase libido, but I haven't seen any studies. Oops, there is a study on that website I listed earlier in my post... a study done in Egypt where it helped men with erectile dysfunction and associated depression.

I just think, in conclusion, that the full effect of Stablon will make itself known in the long term. I know that for myself I have noticed more benefits in the long term (i.e. months). It has helped my depression, anxiety and asthma and I would never give it up for anything else.
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Hi Survector,

A very informative post there!

In particular, you point out that it is for everyone to find their 'best' medicine.

I would love to try stabilon since good reviews abound, but can't for the life of me understand why it should still be effective when it works in the opposite way to most other antidepressants.
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QUOTE(rhymer @ Oct 09, 2006, 02:56 PM) *

Hi Survector,

A very informative post there!

In particular, you point out that it is for everyone to find their 'best' medicine.

I would love to try stabilon since good reviews abound, but can't for the life of me understand why it should still be effective when it works in the opposite way to most other antidepressants.



I trust this has been some time since a last post. I would like also access to SURVECTOR if possible. Thank you an advance.
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Tone   Stablon is a smart drug   Mar 30, 2006, 08:41 PM
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