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post Mar 28, 2006, 05:30 AM
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Hello all just wanted to introduce myself. I am a 24 year old college student. I took 2 years off and now am back at a local community college working on a Business degree. Here is a brief overview of my supplement and prescription history.

I have tryed all sorts of supplements but now I have come to the realization that the ones I buy from Wild Oats and Whole Foods are of little to no worth.

So Ive just decided to go the internet route when buying any supplements.

Yesterday I put a order in for pyritnol(spelling) and I need to get some advice here on startup please.

I have found that the only thing that works is adderall for my doctor diagnosis of ADHD. I know some of you think its just a label, and I could pretty much agree with you on that one. So lets not get into that. Im just trying to discuss this symptom I have had forever. I need something to take to help me study. I dont want to go the pharmacutical route if i have to because of all the long term side affects. So Ive done some brief research and I just want some of you who are new or been around for awhile to help guide me in the right direction. Now I wasnt sure if I should start out with a stack. I thought it would be good to start out with one thing and then see how things work. Like the pyritnol take it as directed for a month to see how things go. Well hope I can get your feedback here and glad to be apartof this forum.

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post Mar 28, 2006, 11:40 AM
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A good general assumption is that prescription drugs are part of a conspiracy by the medical-pharmaceutical establishment to get rich off the suffering of others.

Or is that too harsh? I know of some valium and vicodan addicts who wish they had never heard of prescriptions.
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post Apr 02, 2006, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(Rick @ Mar 28, 08:40 PM) *

A good general assumption is that prescription drugs are part of a conspiracy by the medical-pharmaceutical establishment to get rich off the suffering of others.

Or is that too harsh? I know of some valium and vicodan addicts who wish they had never heard of prescriptions.


Thank G ..... almost said it then! Thank pharmaceutical and healthcare companies for lansoprazole, sumatriptan, dothepin, atenolol, bendroflumethiazide, anaesthetics, antibiotics, antivirals, (oh, the list is too long) or I'd be dead or suffering (more). It's politicians who are the problem. We need stiffer regulations and rules. Then the whole medico-pharmaceutical industry might work better. But we need them undoubtedly.
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QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Apr 02, 11:23 PM) *

Thank G ..... almost said it then! Thank pharmaceutical and healthcare companies for lansoprazole, sumatriptan, dothepin, atenolol, bendroflumethiazide, anaesthetics, antibiotics, antivirals, (oh, the list is too long) or I'd be dead or suffering (more). It's politicians who are the problem. We need stiffer regulations and rules. Then the whole medico-pharmaceutical industry might work better. But we need them undoubtedly.

I'm also grateful for sumatriptan. But I do wonder and worry about many of the prescription drugs out there. We like to call any unwanted reactions to these drugs "side effects." I have to laugh when I see the latest TV commercials for prescription drugs, which obviously must disclose all the bad with the good. Take the sleep-aid Lunesta. First we see a calming, happy butterfly. Everything is nice and peaceful. Everyone is smiling, sleeping soundly, and then waking up cheerful and refreshed. This is followed by a quicker-paced description of ALL possible effects of this medicine: confusion, clumsiness, dizziness, aggressive behavior, violent mood swings, amnesia, agitation, depression, and hallucination. Ater hearing all that, the final appearance of the butterfly is of little comfort. Perhaps the company pushing this drug might do even better without advertising? Maybe it's just me, but even if I have no interest in an advertised drug, I really don't want to hear a long list of all of its health hazards, which often includes a number of potentially catastrophic "side effects."

Natural supplements are potentially less likely to have toxic side effects than man-made medicines. But since they can't be patented, there's no incentive for the pharmaceutical companies to set up and conduct studies on anything they cannot own and profit from. Of course, we're free to walk into any health food store and buy anything we choose, without a prescription. But natural supplements are not regulated, so we never really know what we're getting. That being said, I think there is evidence that many natural substances actually live up to the claims. The challenge is first to distinguish the truly beneficial product from the "snake oil," and then to find consistent, controlled, high-quality brands of those supplements known to be effective.
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post Apr 03, 2006, 09:01 AM
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... But natural supplements are not regulated, so we never really know what we're getting. ...

Certain natural supplements like cannabis, coca, mescal, certain mushrooms, and opium are severely regulated.
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Salesman   Smart brain newbee   Mar 28, 2006, 05:30 AM
Salesman   ok lets not all reply at once here   Mar 28, 2006, 06:14 AM
Neural   there are knowledgeable people here on smart drugs...   Mar 28, 2006, 08:16 AM
code buttons   I am not an expert on medicine or supplements at a...   Mar 28, 2006, 11:20 AM
Rick   A good general assumption is that prescription dru...   Mar 28, 2006, 11:40 AM
code buttons   A good general assumption is that prescription dr...   Mar 28, 2006, 11:54 AM
Hey Hey   A good general assumption is that prescription dr...   Apr 02, 2006, 09:23 PM
OnlyNow   Thank G ..... almost said it then! Thank phar...   Apr 03, 2006, 07:00 AM
Rick   ... But natural supplements are not regulated, so ...   Apr 03, 2006, 09:01 AM
OnlyNow   Certain natural supplements like cannabis, coca, ...   Apr 03, 2006, 10:27 AM
Rick   ... While it would be nice to have an overseer to ...   Apr 03, 2006, 11:23 AM
code buttons   Thank G ..... almost said it then! That...   Apr 05, 2006, 09:03 AM
Salesman   LETS TRY AND STAY ON TOPIC HERE I SPEND ENOUGH TIM...   Apr 03, 2006, 08:20 PM
Hey Hey   So Ive just decided to go the internet route when...   Apr 04, 2006, 12:01 PM
Salesman   Yes i know ive been apart of many forums. Im not ...   Apr 04, 2006, 12:21 PM
Salesman   So im having trouble with anyones involvement in d...   Apr 05, 2006, 05:48 PM
Neural   So im having trouble with anyones involvement in ...   Apr 05, 2006, 07:18 PM
Salesman   Well its obvious look at the posts of mine they ar...   Apr 06, 2006, 09:07 AM
Neural   G-O-O-G-L-E   Apr 06, 2006, 09:26 AM
code buttons   LifeMirage, where are you? I thought you were the...   Apr 06, 2006, 09:40 AM
Salesman   no i dont want to use google and stop treating me ...   Apr 06, 2006, 10:28 AM
LifeMirage   If you feel your diagnosis was incorrect you sho...   Apr 06, 2006, 11:54 AM
Salesman   LifeMirage do you mean dont use adderall and pyrit...   Apr 06, 2006, 02:15 PM
LifeMirage   LifeMirage do you mean dont use adderall and pyri...   Apr 06, 2006, 03:26 PM
Neural   Salesman, if you are mentally unable to assess and...   Apr 06, 2006, 03:30 PM
Salesman   If im only supposed to take one drug then what are...   Apr 06, 2006, 03:52 PM
Neural   why don't you ask your doctor?   Apr 06, 2006, 04:23 PM
LifeMirage   You obviously have a medical condition and need ...   Apr 06, 2006, 05:25 PM
Salesman   Thats what im trying to tell you guys I have asked...   Apr 07, 2006, 03:09 AM
Salesman   sleep doctor and my psychiatrist both told me to g...   Apr 07, 2006, 03:11 AM


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